Homosexuality Is Abomination unto the Lord

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Homosexuality is not an abnormality; it is a result of an individual’s own sexual desires. Once this takes place, what happens? Note what the verse says, “Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” This death is the second death, which is the Lake of Fire. Let’s take a look at some of Paul’s writings. Most people that call themselves Christians use the books of Paul to do away with the Lords commandments. These individuals have not gained their so-called knowledge through studying the Bible, they are on the “my pastor said factor” without trying to find out for themselves what “thus sayeth the Lord.”
We will see in this next set of verses Paul mentions men of God that knew the scriptures, but failed to revere the ONLY REVEREND meaning REV. JESUS, the Lord gave them up because of unbelief and allowed them to commit vile acts such as lying with the same sex. Let’s take a look:
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (Romans 1:18-21)
Note what the verse says, “Who hold the truth in unrighteousness.” Here we see these men knew the truth but “they glorified him not as God, neither were they thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart were darkened.” They professed themselves to be wise but became fools. Let’s skip down to the 24th verse.

Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; (Romans 1:24-28)

Note what’s being said, “God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts to dishonor their own bodies between themselves. Even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature, men with men working that which is unseemly…” God placed men and women on this earth to be fruitful and to multiply. This isn’t a genetic thing, which suits the taste of the general public. These individuals that call themselves homosexuals simply have unbridled sexual desire that came out of their own imaginations, they were not born that way.
 
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that's interesting because all of the homosexuals and their supporters that i have come across were not open at all. In fact they were more interested in putting me out.
Yeah, some of them are. I guess it depends on the person. The homosexuals I know persoanlly were more open when I gave them the full picture. Meanwhile, in the chat room where I'm a moderator, some homosexuals do come in with nothing but hatred for Christians, and nothing will change their mind.
 
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The wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23), so I don't know where you're getting this notion of small sin vs. great sin. You yourself even said that all sin means we fall short of the glory of God. Small sin vs. big sin is a teaching of Islam (and perhaps some other religions), but there's nothing in the Bible that would even suggest the notion of small sin vs. big sin, since breaking one law is like breaking them all (James 2:10).



I'm not sure why you put my name in quotes here. And just for the record, I never denied that homosexuality is a sin.
You try to justify and open all sins to be good...According to you it seems to be okay to worship idols and praise the Devil because all sins is equal..Therefore even homosexuality is good for you...I can with ease say that you argue in favor of the Devil!
 
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You try to justify and open all sins to be good...According to you it seems to be okay to worship idols and praise the Devil because all sins is equal..Therefore even homosexuality is good for you...I can with ease say that you argue in favor of the Devil!
Thats not how I read his posts... I read them as you cant judge one sin while doing your own, no matter how small it may be, its still a sin.. Geez is it that hard to see.
 
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Thats not how I read his posts... I read them as you cant judge one sin while doing your own, no matter how small it may be, its still a sin.. Geez is it that hard to see.
Judging is not the discussion, it belongs to God and God only! Whether Homosexuality is right or wrong is the discussion... We can not justify and promote any sin because that would be from the Devil!

We as Christians are called to preach the Gospel! Not to judge sins... The bible is very clear that Homosexuality is a sin! They have to repent of their sins!! The object of question is not my sin or your sin or anybodies sin...But rather "homosexuality" as a sin! Jesus said "unless you repent you will perish" Luke 13:5.!!

You see, people try and justify sins by saying everybody sins! The difference being Jesus has justified me! I believe he died for my sins and I am baptized in his name! I am made righteous by the blood of Jesus! Now with that in mind, I follow Jesus example and turn away from sin to the best of my ability and my sins are washed clean!!

i did not say homosexuality is a sin, God did! and Jesus said Repent and believe! Run the good race! Repent, ask forgiveness and change the evil ways of the flesh!
any sin, all sin is very very serious!! That is the message we need to promote!! not it is okay because everybody has sins!Sin is serious! Jesus said REPENT and believe and you will be saved!!! Put that verse on your website Megaman!!!
 
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Judging is not the discussion, it belongs to God and God only! Whether Homosexuality is right or wrong is the discussion... We can not justify and promote any sin because that would be from the Devil!

We as Christians are called to preach the Gospel! Not to judge sins... The bible is very clear that Homosexuality is a sin! They have to repent of their sins!! The object of question is not my sin or your sin or anybodies sin...But rather "homosexuality" as a sin! Jesus said "unless you repent you will perish" Luke 13:5.!!

You see, people try and justify sins by saying everybody sins! The difference being Jesus has justified me! I believe he died for my sins and I am baptized in his name! I am made righteous by the blood of Jesus! Now with that in mind, I follow Jesus example and turn away from sin to the best of my ability and my sins are washed clean!!

i did not say homosexuality is a sin, God did! and Jesus said Repent and believe! Run the good race! Repent, ask forgiveness and change the evil ways of the flesh!
any sin, all sin is very very serious!! That is the message we need to promote!! not it is okay because everybody has sins!Sin is serious! Jesus said REPENT and believe and you will be saved!!! Put that verse on your website Megaman!!!
Not one person here has said homosexuality is ok, Not one has said it wasnt a sin... Off your high horse before God pushes you off it aye..Maybe you should re read what was actually said, not what you translate it to be...
The tone of this thread is exactly that which you (in bold) have said not to do ;)
 
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You see, people try and justify sins by saying everybody sins!
Oh and btw... thats not what megaman or I said anyway.. ;) If you had of read the posts without blinkers, you'd have seen that.
 
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Please help! Did this man not JUDGE the sinners....... And who of us here will OBEY God's Word in this? ... Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Again, People say WE ALL SIN.... What about this part in the Bible... How can one sinner REBUKE another, is that not top hypocracy.... So let us FIRST remove the log, then we REBUKE ALL SINNERS, God's command!

Did this man judge? This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

The only reason I have NEVER rebuked a sinner, is becasue I am one myself, AND I WOULD LOVE IT IF SOMEONE WILL REBUKE ME WHEN I SIN, Maybe that is the way to STOP SINNING! As Jesus COMMANDED, more than once!

To all homo's I rebuke thee, in front of all these people, STOP THY DARK WORKS OF HOMOSEXUALITY.
 
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Check out how true this is TODAY... Look how science and community and the wole wrotten world want to make God'a Truth a LIE! And look where it is MOST evident. By the people that.... Homos and gays... Exactly the ones mentioned here,,,
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
I find it Fascinating that people would think these people, that GOD GAVE UP TO VILE AFFECTIONS.... Becasue they changed the Truth to a LIE.... that people would think these people has an interest in the TRUTH. The only interest they have is to believe the LIE they made Truth! They do not want the Truth, that they changed to a LIE!
 
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You try to justify and open all sins to be good...According to you it seems to be okay to worship idols and praise the Devil because all sins is equal..Therefore even homosexuality is good for you...I can with ease say that you argue in favor of the Devil!
Wait, WHAT? I have never stated that all sins are good. You're just putting words in my mouth now.
 
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I want to make mention of what you can Judge when it comes to the law (commandments). Lets go to 1Corinthains 6: 1Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Most people are unable to Judge the smallest matter because when it comes to the word of God, they throw the law (commandmends) out the window. Look what happen to the sabbath day on the seventh day of the weeek (saturday) Lets skip down to verse 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?


I see people going back and forth with one another, but no one is pulling out the word of God. People use your Bibles!! Read!!!...Ask question!
 
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I want to make mention of what you can Judge when it comes to the law (commandments). Lets go to 1Corinthains 6: 1Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Most people are unable to Judge the smallest matter because when it comes to the word of God, they throw the law (commandmends) out the window. Look what happen to the sabbath day on the seventh day of the weeek (saturday) Lets skip down to verse 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?


I see people going back and forth with one another, but no one is pulling out the word of God. People use your Bibles!! Read!!!...Ask question!
Is this not what you do beloved? How can a man be gay in Christ when in Him there is no male or female? Nay. You defraud your brother through law of which Christ died for.
 
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Therefore, we have a dreaded plague among us that’s not only devastating the gay community; it’s also spilling over into heterosexual assemblage as indicated by the AIDS crisis that has been mounting in the world.
Since the first AIDS cases were reported in 1981 through mid-1998, more than 665,000 AIDS cases and more than 400,000 deaths have been reported in the United States alone. This is only the tip of the iceberg of HIV infection. It is estimated that nearly 1 million Americans had been infected through the late 1990s but had not yet developed clinical symptoms. AIDS has spread around the world. In 1997 the United Nations announced that it had underestimated the spread of the disease and revised the worldwide estimate of people living with the virus from over 22 million in 1996 to over 30 million in 1997. More than 20 million of these people are in sub-Saharan Africa; 6 million are in Southeast Asia. The AIDS epidemic, which started in the 1980s, has devastated the gay community. (Quote from Grolier multimedia encyclopedia.) Updated November 2011…More people than ever are living with HIV, largely due to greater access to treatment.


At the end of 2010, an estimated 34 million people [31.6 million – 35.2 million] were living with HIV worldwide, up 17% from 2001. This reflects the continued large number of new HIV infections and a significant expansion of access to antiretroviral (anti-HIV) therapy, which has helped reduce AIDS-related deaths, especially in more recent years.

There were 2.7 million [2.4 million–2.9 million] new HIV infections in 2010, including an estimated 390 000 [340 000–450 000] among children. This was 15% less than in 2001, and 21% below the number of new infections at the peak of the epidemic in 1997.

AIDS-related deaths are decreasing: The number of people dying of AIDS-related causes fell to 1.8 million [1.6 million – 1.9 million] in 2010, down from a peak of 2.2 million [2.1 million – 2.5 million] in the mid-2000s. A total of 2.5 million deaths have been averted in low- and middle-income countries since 1995 due to antiretroviral therapy being introduced, according to new calculations by
UNAIDS. Much of that success has come in the past two years when rapid scale-up of access to treatment occurred; in 2010 alone, 700 000 AIDS-related deaths were averted.


The acceptance of homosexuality is also being spearheaded by today’s modern church.
“….Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever.” Many leaders of today’s churches have “changed the truth of God into a lie” and have led their congregation in accepting homosexuality as an acceptable practice. Those so-called men and women that announce themselves as ministers of God, and say this behavior has their approval, will have their day in the lake of fire. The occupation of a minister of God is to be a watchman that warns the masses of the wrath to come because of sin. One of the most prevalent lies told by these ministers of Satan is, “come to the Lord as you are.” The Bible is clear on how an individual comes to stand before the Most High God. In the book of Acts chapter two verse 38 states that we must repent, and be baptized every one of us in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. These so-call ministers skip over the word “repent” which simply means to make a change.

We cannot come to the Lord as we are, we must clean our acts up first. We must understand brothers and sisters that there is no degree of sin in the eyes of the Lord. If we become practitioners of sin we will receive a just reward, which is the lake of fire. Note what Paul says in I Timothy 1:8.
But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; (I Timothy 1:8)
How might we use the law lawfully? By keeping the law. Note what Paul says next.

Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for men stealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; (I Timothy 1:9-10)
Note what Paul says, “Knowing this that the law is not made for a righteous man.” Why, because a righteous man or woman are keeping the law. The law is for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for men stealers, for liars, for perjured persons…” What will be the consequences for committing these acts of sin? Take note,
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:15)
Those that are written in the Book of Life use the Law lawfully.
 
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Therefore, we have a dreaded plague among us that’s not only devastating the gay community; it’s also spilling over into heterosexual assemblage as indicated by the AIDS crisis that has been mounting in the world.
Since the first AIDS cases were reported in 1981 through mid-1998, more than 665,000 AIDS cases and more than 400,000 deaths have been reported in the United States alone. This is only the tip of the iceberg of HIV infection. It is estimated that nearly 1 million Americans had been infected through the late 1990s but had not yet developed clinical symptoms. AIDS has spread around the world. In 1997 the United Nations announced that it had underestimated the spread of the disease and revised the worldwide estimate of people living with the virus from over 22 million in 1996 to over 30 million in 1997. More than 20 million of these people are in sub-Saharan Africa; 6 million are in Southeast Asia. The AIDS epidemic, which started in the 1980s, has devastated the gay community. (Quote from Grolier multimedia encyclopedia.) Updated November 2011…More people than ever are living with HIV, largely due to greater access to treatment.


At the end of 2010, an estimated 34 million people [31.6 million – 35.2 million] were living with HIV worldwide, up 17% from 2001. This reflects the continued large number of new HIV infections and a significant expansion of access to antiretroviral (anti-HIV) therapy, which has helped reduce AIDS-related deaths, especially in more recent years.

There were 2.7 million [2.4 million–2.9 million] new HIV infections in 2010, including an estimated 390 000 [340 000–450 000] among children. This was 15% less than in 2001, and 21% below the number of new infections at the peak of the epidemic in 1997.

AIDS-related deaths are decreasing: The number of people dying of AIDS-related causes fell to 1.8 million [1.6 million – 1.9 million] in 2010, down from a peak of 2.2 million [2.1 million – 2.5 million] in the mid-2000s. A total of 2.5 million deaths have been averted in low- and middle-income countries since 1995 due to antiretroviral therapy being introduced, according to new calculations by
UNAIDS. Much of that success has come in the past two years when rapid scale-up of access to treatment occurred; in 2010 alone, 700 000 AIDS-related deaths were averted.


The acceptance of homosexuality is also being spearheaded by today’s modern church.
“….Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever.” Many leaders of today’s churches have “changed the truth of God into a lie” and have led their congregation in accepting homosexuality as an acceptable practice. Those so-called men and women that announce themselves as ministers of God, and say this behavior has their approval, will have their day in the lake of fire. The occupation of a minister of God is to be a watchman that warns the masses of the wrath to come because of sin. One of the most prevalent lies told by these ministers of Satan is, “come to the Lord as you are.” The Bible is clear on how an individual comes to stand before the Most High God. In the book of Acts chapter two verse 38 states that we must repent, and be baptized every one of us in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. These so-call ministers skip over the word “repent” which simply means to make a change.

We cannot come to the Lord as we are, we must clean our acts up first. We must understand brothers and sisters that there is no degree of sin in the eyes of the Lord. If we become practitioners of sin we will receive a just reward, which is the lake of fire. Note what Paul says in I Timothy 1:8.
But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; (I Timothy 1:8)
How might we use the law lawfully? By keeping the law. Note what Paul says next.

Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for men stealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; (I Timothy 1:9-10)
Note what Paul says, “Knowing this that the law is not made for a righteous man.” Why, because a righteous man or woman are keeping the law. The law is for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for men stealers, for liars, for perjured persons…” What will be the consequences for committing these acts of sin? Take note,
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:15)
Those that are written in the Book of Life use the Law lawfully.

Is a gay man gay in the grave? These statistics, whatever they may or may not mean can be posted about heterosexuals as well.
 
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Some posters are saying that homosexuality is simply a sin, like other sins. I believe it is more fundamental, it is against the basic principles of God.

First, because God created woman from a part of Adam, then God gave marriage where the two become one again. Man and man cannot become one, nor woman and woman. They weren't created in a way for that to be able to happen.

Next, being true in marriage is symbolic to being true to one God. God uses symbolism in our world. The whole sacrificial system was based, not on the blood of animals as it tells us in Hebrews, but on the symbolism of Christ’s blood.

If you use your concordance to search for all God says about harlots, you will see how God sees being true sexually as symbolic of being true spiritually. You cannot be true with a union that is not in keeping with the way we are created by our Creator.
 
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Some posters are saying that homosexuality is simply a sin, like other sins. I believe it is more fundamental, it is against the basic principles of God.

First, because God created woman from a part of Adam, then God gave marriage where the two become one again. Man and man cannot become one, nor woman and woman. They weren't created in a way for that to be able to happen.

Next, being true in marriage is symbolic to being true to one God. God uses symbolism in our world. The whole sacrificial system was based, not on the blood of animals as it tells us in Hebrews, but on the symbolism of Christ’s blood.

If you use your concordance to search for all God says about harlots, you will see how God sees being true sexually as symbolic of being true spiritually. You cannot be true with a union that is not in keeping with the way we are created by our Creator.
Can a gay man love his neighbor as himself?
 
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It's an unnatural sin.
Also the union produces no offspring.
And the average number of partners is in the hundreds.
Homosexuality isn't so much a sexual preference but sexual perversion.
 
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When God has given anyone over to those things mentioned in (Rom 1), they have already been disapproved and God gives them over to that which He has disapproved. There is a force being issued by God when giving them over and that forced pretty much locks them in because they have already refused conviction of the truth and worship the creature over and against the Creator. The abomination is that it is wicked and unclean in God's eyes and has no place in the will of the Creator being a perversion and twisting away from nature and that which has been created between a man and woman in the sight of God, meaning that all of a man is made for a woman and all of a woman is made for a man. Anything outside this natural order and makeup of creation is wicked and unclean and we should be telling the lost concerning these things because these are the things that hold them back in unbelief from the living God and the Creator of all things.
 
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oh hey, another post about homosexual sinners. well i may be a sinner but at least i am not as bad as those sinners. look at me proclaiming my sinfulness Lord and how i am not as bad as those other sinners. homosexuals, murders, adulterers , all are far worse than me Lord. i will not stand here and name my sins Lord instead i will stand here and let you know i am not as bad as those other sinners. i will quote the law they don't read or follow so that they will know they are sinners. one day i will stand before them and tell them, i told you so, before they are sent to hell. i am a sinner just not a terrible sinner like them. forgive me and not them.


look friends, for most of my life i didn't care about religion. i certainly didn't care what those people had to say. to be honest, i didn't care what anyone had to say about anything. Gods law? i didn't even follow mans law. theft, drug abuse,adultery, sexual assault, arson, all before i was 18. the 19 years after that wasn't as bad, but i still didn't care. after all i was never caught for any of my crimes and i was a successful blue collar worker. at the time i thought i had it all. so what happened? what caused this great conversion in me? i wrote a biography of my life, as a record of my accomplishments. while doing this i actually started to have these emotion things and was somehow bothered by my past actions. in despair i asked Jesus for help. everything in my life changed after that. my entire perspective on my life changed. things i had justified or not even worried about became defined. everything those Christians were talking about are true. whats even crazier is that it happened to me. it can happen to you too. confess and ask Jesus for help. he will make a new person out of you. i am a witness.

so now for anyone who has read this far, which paragraph might help someone come to Christ? the love of Christ can change a person. it can redefine your concepts of your life and the sins you have so far ignored or even reveled in. be a witness instead of a lawyer, Jesus will be the judge.


duewell
mark 4 v11-13
 

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Sin is sin is sin. As Christians, our works will be tried by fire. Should we support sin, and thereby discredit everything we stand for? I think that if we were to support homosexual acts, we weaken our testimony.

Just thinking out loud.