Homosexuality is not a choice!!!!
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For those of you who struggle with the question of why someone is gay, it is merely acting out on something that causes you arousal. Its no different than a "heterosexual" person dealing with the temptation of sex with other people than their spouse when theyre married, they will have that temptation, and they can choose to totally ignore it with no REAL consequence at all. Yeah, sure, no one chooses to be tempted (which isnt even entirely true either, because some people enjoy it), but you do choose whether or not to act out on it or to just say no. And like every other human being anywhere, someone who deals with homosexuality can say no. They arent a special group of people who lack this ability 
And as for hetero people getting the free card when married, thats not even entirely true. The bible tells married couples they can lay with each other to fulfill the need, but to not live passionatly like the pagans do, and to take time for prayer to avoid satans temptation. They are told to practice self restraint as well. And coming from the whole homosexuality thing, there are times where something immoral may cause arousal of some sort, and I ignore it yeah. But there are also times that I just deal with the temptation of the flesh with no motivation at all whatsoever. And even if I dont feel arousal by a woman or whatever non important argument youll hear, I can tell you it would still be 100% possible to fulfill the need with my wife if I had to
Dont let yourself believe that a person who deals with that temptation literally could never lay with someone of the opposite gender Its not impossible for them, its just not what they desire Youll deal with the temptation of the flesh either way
(this would be alot easier to do if I could quote :/)
And as for hetero people getting the free card when married, thats not even entirely true. The bible tells married couples they can lay with each other to fulfill the need, but to not live passionatly like the pagans do, and to take time for prayer to avoid satans temptation. They are told to practice self restraint as well. And coming from the whole homosexuality thing, there are times where something immoral may cause arousal of some sort, and I ignore it yeah. But there are also times that I just deal with the temptation of the flesh with no motivation at all whatsoever. And even if I dont feel arousal by a woman or whatever non important argument youll hear, I can tell you it would still be 100% possible to fulfill the need with my wife if I had to
Dont let yourself believe that a person who deals with that temptation literally could never lay with someone of the opposite gender
Its not impossible for them, its just not what they desire Youll deal with the temptation of the flesh either way (this would be alot easier to do if I could quote :/)
Gay people are continually ostracized, demeaned, defamed, mocked, ridiculed, judged, opposed, forced out of communities, beaten, robbed, derided, maltreated and viewed as an inferior class of human being. I've had several gay friends commit suicide for the same reasons. I'm friends with a gay man who had to move out of his home country and away from all his family because when he came out, they beat him up so bad he had to have his jaw realigned.
I live in a fairly tolerant country (which is surprising considering what this place was like 20 years ago), but I still see gay people treated like dirt at times. You live in South Africa, which is one of the most violently homophobic countries in the world, with one of the highest HIV rates in the world (last I checked, one in five South Africans have the virus), so it's no joke. Openly gay people who live in that kind of environment and get that kind of abuse and have so little social support and such high risk associated with sex, don't have very much going for them.
I'm really sorry for what happened to your brother.
I live in a fairly tolerant country (which is surprising considering what this place was like 20 years ago), but I still see gay people treated like dirt at times. You live in South Africa, which is one of the most violently homophobic countries in the world, with one of the highest HIV rates in the world (last I checked, one in five South Africans have the virus), so it's no joke. Openly gay people who live in that kind of environment and get that kind of abuse and have so little social support and such high risk associated with sex, don't have very much going for them.
I'm really sorry for what happened to your brother.
Many people are treated harshly around the world, in fact most groups of people somewhere at some point are. That doesnt mean that what they are doing is right. If you took an islamic jihadist and left him to the whims of jewish families of those he killed, and they treated him harshly, we wouldnt suddenly decide that jihad is an acceptable thing.
Being discriminated against is terrible, but it doesnt make wrong right in anyway. Its still nothing more than acting out on sexual desires.
And whether or not they are consenting adults has no bearing on right or wrong either Its still the wrong way to do it
Being discriminated against is terrible, but it doesnt make wrong right in anyway. Its still nothing more than acting out on sexual desires.
And whether or not they are consenting adults has no bearing on right or wrong either
Its still the wrong way to do it
Many people are treated harshly around the world, in fact most groups of people somewhere at some point are. That doesnt mean that what they are doing is right. If you took an islamic jihadist and left him to the whims of jewish families of those he killed, and they treated him harshly, we wouldnt suddenly decide that jihad is an acceptable thing.
Being discriminated against is terrible, but it doesnt make wrong right in anyway. Its still nothing more than acting out on sexual desires.
And whether or not they are consenting adults has no bearing on right or wrong either Its still the wrong way to do it
Being discriminated against is terrible, but it doesnt make wrong right in anyway. Its still nothing more than acting out on sexual desires.
And whether or not they are consenting adults has no bearing on right or wrong either
Its still the wrong way to do it
The two aren't even in the same league.
Since you care about correcting people with agendas who try to misrepresent facts, here are some whole groups of people with agendas who misrepresent facts continually, for you to correct: YECs; Climate Deniers; the "gays are pedophiles" crowd; the "being gay is a choice" crowd; the "there's no biological reason for transgenderism" crowd; the "evolution is a hoax" crowd; the "President Bush went to Iraq to liberate the people" crowd; the "Obama is the antiChrist" crowd; the "Europe is building a socialist empire" crowd; the "Russia are trying to start a war with America" crowd; the "black people are just more criminal than white people" crowd; the "Pope is Satan" crowd; the "I have a right to dictate what other consenting adults do with their sex organs" crowd; and the "letting people be gay by law is forcing a lifestyle on Christians against their wills" crowd.
Thankfully, you don't need to search far and wide to begin correcting all these groups and their faulty assumptions, because all of those groups of people can be found together, in one place: here!
Thankfully, you don't need to search far and wide to begin correcting all these groups and their faulty assumptions, because all of those groups of people can be found together, in one place: here!
And also, gays are dealing with the same thing that every Christian is dealing with, the temptation of sexual sin. Its not a special group that has it harder than anyone else, its merely a temptation for sexual immorality, and every one of us knows what that is like. We dont need to "accept" what we as His followers already know we can deny, if we make the choice to do right over "enjoy life".
Perhaps not, but it does incite people who don't follow the Christian religion to (rightly) stand up and say "no, we don't follow the Christian religion". Do you honestly think governments should enforce Christian laws on people who aren't Christians? As far as I see it, being Christian is a personal commitment, not a de facto human duty.
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Doctors have identified in the development of the embryo in the womb, testosterone is released at differing levels, low for girls, higher for boys, which set the brain development to either be female or male in orientation.
It appears some boys very much behave and think like girls and some girls very much behave and think like boys. Now if you are one of these people you did not choose this. You also have a grey scale between the extremes.
As a society we have handled this by saying your body is female / male so that is what you are. If we have the power to help gender changes should we do this? Equally sexual drive and attraction vary, some choose, some are set.
The simple answer is adjust to the societies approximations, because that matters rather than reflecting personal developmental makeup. Over time the brain can adjust and behaviour will modify. So though things are set one way, we often can become something else if we want to enough. Gods law defines things in the general and makes things clear for the majority. If the society overthrows this for everybody to not discriminate against the minority, then emotional desire is set as the dictator and that road is death.
It is always a hard road between what you are and what you need to be.
It appears some boys very much behave and think like girls and some girls very much behave and think like boys. Now if you are one of these people you did not choose this. You also have a grey scale between the extremes.
As a society we have handled this by saying your body is female / male so that is what you are. If we have the power to help gender changes should we do this? Equally sexual drive and attraction vary, some choose, some are set.
The simple answer is adjust to the societies approximations, because that matters rather than reflecting personal developmental makeup. Over time the brain can adjust and behaviour will modify. So though things are set one way, we often can become something else if we want to enough. Gods law defines things in the general and makes things clear for the majority. If the society overthrows this for everybody to not discriminate against the minority, then emotional desire is set as the dictator and that road is death.
It is always a hard road between what you are and what you need to be.
Our government has abandoned all standards of moral conduct. Having done so, how would you expect them to behave? Even nature testifies to the depravity of homosexuality. Our society as sunken below the level of ignorant animals; And God gives the the freedom to make that choice. God does not force choices on us but he is very clear that the choices we make will have forced consequences.
No, the level of hormones in your body has no affect on "who you need to be" Like most males who have lived that life, I am small framed, and I have little muscle mass. I lack many things that most males have. But thats all meaningless, it just means that I am a male who is slightly different than other males I dont need to now dress and act like a woman, cuz no matter what I do to my body, I am still a male And there are also males who act more feminine in ways, and girls who act more masculine in ways. But they still would tell you they have no interest in being the other gender at all It doesnt prove anything other than some people just dont act like others. I like cutesy stuff often, I like colorful things, I like bright colors and dont like black and grey, I enjoy being gentle over being hardened, I enjoy being creative, I feel more comfortable acting gentle and caring over acting stern and strong and junk, I generally appreciate a more softer sense of aesthetic over a more "practical" one, all these things apply to me entirely.
But Im still a male So doing anything outside of that is only following a desire. If I choose to not acheive happiness by having some sense of "identity", and living in some way that I have come to obsess over, I can find a feeling of being content with what I have, and being happy with my peace of mind, over wanting what other people have that I dont. Its entirely possible, but you have to allow yourself to change your state of mind.
Like most males who have lived that life, I am small framed, and I have little muscle mass. I lack many things that most males have. But thats all meaningless, it just means that I am a male who is slightly different than other males I dont need to now dress and act like a woman, cuz no matter what I do to my body, I am still a male And there are also males who act more feminine in ways, and girls who act more masculine in ways. But they still would tell you they have no interest in being the other gender at all It doesnt prove anything other than some people just dont act like others. I like cutesy stuff often, I like colorful things, I like bright colors and dont like black and grey, I enjoy being gentle over being hardened, I enjoy being creative, I feel more comfortable acting gentle and caring over acting stern and strong and junk, I generally appreciate a more softer sense of aesthetic over a more "practical" one, all these things apply to me entirely.But Im still a male
So doing anything outside of that is only following a desire. If I choose to not acheive happiness by having some sense of "identity", and living in some way that I have come to obsess over, I can find a feeling of being content with what I have, and being happy with my peace of mind, over wanting what other people have that I dont. Its entirely possible, but you have to allow yourself to change your state of mind.
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One of the best answers Ive seen on this subject comes from Ravi Zacharias. He brings across the Christian position in an articulate way. If you have time watch his video. He's quite a brilliant man. I agree with his view totally...
https://youtu.be/nPYRXop7aPA
https://youtu.be/nPYRXop7aPA
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