How does one know whether a prophet or prophecy is of and/or from God?

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LaurenTM

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wasn't that what Hillary did on Nov 7th? :D

sorry.. this is in NO way comparing you to that....um.... person....I could just picture her doing that...

haha

I guess so

I read she went into a rage when she found out she lost...and got totally smashed

someone can call that gossip if they want...but it's out there

anyway, that was the real reason she did not show up for her disappointed supporters

typical though...she was expecting a coronation
 

hornetguy

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cause they do pray on the weak, the young and the blissfully ignorant of God's word
Now THERE'S a Freudian slip.... those faith healers "praying" on the weak, young, and ignorant.... ;)
 
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LaurenTM

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Now THERE'S a Freudian slip.... those faith healers "praying" on the weak, young, and ignorant.... ;)
haha

there were 2 mis-spells in that thar post

yah found one!

whoops...no sorry...I put one in another post

enjoy!
 
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LaurenTM

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I can see what G777 was saying
awww

we'll get you guys matching sweaters for Christmas!

 

Blain

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lol i love it when people can joke around with misspellings like typing pray for prey like Lauren did and weak for week like EG did.
I actually have a badge a of honor for just such an occasion and for all whom it applies wear it proudly ;b Grammar badge.jpg
 

Dan_473

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Maybe it was a prophesy, A word God spoke through my fingers, that I did not even know what I was typing so you could bring up how they hurt the "weak"..........

lol.. It was just a mistake
:p
as a side note, I think there can be 'accidental' prophecies

ST. JOHN 11:51 He did not say this of his own accord, but being high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the nation
 
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LaurenTM

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Man, I would TOTALLY wear that sweater.... I love it. (do you need my shipping address?) :cool:

wait.......wait.........

I'm getting something..........

does this mean anything to you?







LOL....Me too! I would take some of Lauren's cookies too..I hear they are good!
oh you kids! you're so funny!

 
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LaurenTM

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lol i love it when people can joke around with misspellings like typing pray for prey like Lauren did and weak for week like EG did.
I actually have a badge a of honor for just such an occasion and for all whom it applies wear it proudly ;b View attachment 163319



not seeing it Blain

not even after I sprinkled some finger print powder on the post...........
 

Blain

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not seeing it Blain

not even after I sprinkled some finger print powder on the post...........
finger print powder? never heard of that
 
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LaurenTM

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finger print powder? never heard of that

powder used for dusting for fingerprints...never watched a crime series?

I see the badge now...:)
 

Dan_473

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I don't know.... I can see what G777 was saying.... I'm pretty sure I never heard Paul refer to himself as "Apostle Paul" as a title... such as when he was signing off on his letters



although in his opening statements in his letters, as a way of identification of his qualifications/status, he says basically, "this is from me, Paul, an apostle of Jesus". To him, apparently, it was who he was, but it wasn't a "title" to him.

I can see the distinction, as I suspect most of us can... and it certainly isn't worth developing any heartburn over..

Let's all greet one another with a holy kiss, and move along...:D
holy kiss comin' your way!
 

hornetguy

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Actually, it's this kind of stuff....

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Desertsrose

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I want to first say that I don't know that my understanding is correct here. But I want to say this for others to consider and also to discuss if this may be a possibility.


1 Corinthians 14


1 Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.


3 But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation.


Revelation 19


10 Then I fell at his feet to worship him. But he *said to me, “Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”


Someone else posted a scripture, which is that we are not to despise prophecy. And to say we don't have that gift today would be in error. I believe those who want nothing to do with prophecy is because they've only seen false prophecies happening within the church.


A teacher once said that we are all prophets? Are we? Maybe that has some validity to it.
And then he quoted the scripture in Revelation 19:10 above. The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.


That got my attention! Because Paul was saying to the Corinthian church to eagerly seek to prophecy.


So what does the one that prophecies do, what does he say, what's his purpose or role in the church?


He is to edify the church, exhort the church and bring consolation, comfort to the church. How are we built up in the faith, encouraged, corrected and comforted in Jesus?


It reminds me of this scripture; 2 Timothy 3 16-17 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.


It looks pretty similar to the gift of prophecy. Which begs the question, according to Revelation where the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy, aren't we all prophesying when we speak of the gospel of Jesus Christ as a testimony unto Him?


20 Brethren, do not be children in your thinking; yet in evil be infants, but in your thinking be mature. 21 In the Law it is written, “By men of strange tongues and by the lips of strangers I will speak to this people, and even so they will not listen to Me,” says the Lord. 22 So then tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophecy is for a sign, not to unbelievers but to those who believe. 23 Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an ungifted man enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all; 25 the secrets of his heart are disclosed; and so he will fall on his face and worship God, declaring that God is certainly among you.
26 What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.
So look at Paul's conclusion. When we come together, whoever has a psalm, sing and lead the others in praising God, if someone has a teaching, teach, if someone has been given revelation, share it, whoever has a tongue, give it if there's an interpretation. Let everything be done for the edifying and building up of the body of Christ.

And those who are prophesying, what are they doing? Look at verse 24. The unbeliever is convicted by all when we prophecy. Why? Because we are giving to him the testimony of Jesus, the gospel that saves and convicts of sin and the need for change; repentance. The man falls on his face in worship of God declaring that God is certainly among you.

Anyway, in all my experience in local churches or through reading books or listening to cassettes, (yes I'm old) all those prophecies that go on in churches, I can't say that I could give you even one man that I believe is a prophet of God in the sense that they use it.

I'm speaking of NAR, IHOP, TBN and all of those who claim to be prophets of God. I'm not saying there aren't some, I just haven't had the experience of hearing one or meeting one that wasn't seriously off scripturally. If anyone can say they know of one, I’d like to hear it.

Paul seems to be describing a different type of gifting than those groups. Also, Jesus warned us of false prophets and teachers. Who are they? I think we could list quite a few well knowns that would fall into that category.
 

Blain

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I want to first say that I don't know that my understanding is correct here. But I want to say this for others to consider and also to discuss if this may be a possibility.


1 Corinthians 14


1 Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.


3 But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation.


Revelation 19


10 Then I fell at his feet to worship him. But he *said to me, “Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”


Someone else posted a scripture, which is that we are not to despise prophecy. And to say we don't have that gift today would be in error. I believe those who want nothing to do with prophecy is because they've only seen false prophecies happening within the church.


A teacher once said that we are all prophets? Are we? Maybe that has some validity to it.
And then he quoted the scripture in Revelation 19:10 above. The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.


That got my attention! Because Paul was saying to the Corinthian church to eagerly seek to prophecy.


So what does the one that prophecies do, what does he say, what's his purpose or role in the church?


He is to edify the church, exhort the church and bring consolation, comfort to the church. How are we built up in the faith, encouraged, corrected and comforted in Jesus?


It reminds me of this scripture; 2 Timothy 3 16-17 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.


It looks pretty similar to the gift of prophecy. Which begs the question, according to Revelation where the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy, aren't we all prophesying when we speak of the gospel of Jesus Christ as a testimony unto Him?


20 Brethren, do not be children in your thinking; yet in evil be infants, but in your thinking be mature. 21 In the Law it is written, “By men of strange tongues and by the lips of strangers I will speak to this people, and even so they will not listen to Me,” says the Lord. 22 So then tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophecy is for a sign, not to unbelievers but to those who believe. 23 Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an ungifted man enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all; 25 the secrets of his heart are disclosed; and so he will fall on his face and worship God, declaring that God is certainly among you.
26 What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.
So look at Paul's conclusion. When we come together, whoever has a psalm, sing and lead the others in praising God, if someone has a teaching, teach, if someone has been given revelation, share it, whoever has a tongue, give it if there's an interpretation. Let everything be done for the edifying and building up of the body of Christ.

And those who are prophesying, what are they doing? Look at verse 24. The unbeliever is convicted by all when we prophecy. Why? Because we are giving to him the testimony of Jesus, the gospel that saves and convicts of sin and the need for change; repentance. The man falls on his face in worship of God declaring that God is certainly among you.

Anyway, in all my experience in local churches or through reading books or listening to cassettes, (yes I'm old) all those prophecies that go on in churches, I can't say that I could give you even one man that I believe is a prophet of God in the sense that they use it.

I'm speaking of NAR, IHOP, TBN and all of those who claim to be prophets of God. I'm not saying there aren't some, I just haven't had the experience of hearing one or meeting one that wasn't seriously off scripturally. If anyone can say they know of one, I’d like to hear it.

Paul seems to be describing a different type of gifting than those groups. Also, Jesus warned us of false prophets and teachers. Who are they? I think we could list quite a few well knowns that would fall into that category.
Very insightful of you to notice all that your post shows great understanding and an earnest heart.
Many people claim to be prophets but normally when you hear them speak they give prophecies and I don't know about anyone else but when I hear people who claim to be prophets I don't feel the spirit jumping inside me when they speak in fact often times I get this terrible feeling inside me not quite dread but more like a very deep uneasiness I suppose.

To me being prophetic and being a prophet are not anywhere the same thing, you can have prophetic dreams and visions yet this does not make you a prophet does it? I have noticed all through out the bible that while yes God's prophets gave prophecies and thus saith the Lord what I noticed most is that they always gave direction to the body, when the Israelites lost their way they always went to those who had an ear for God's voice and though they rarely ever listened to what they were told God always used people who knew his voice to give direction correction and encouragement to his rebellious children.

This makes me think that a prophet is not someone who receives visions and prophetic dreams rather they are the ones who know his voice and who God places his words on their hearts and they speak it often times for encouragement to uplift and strengthen others to make that spark and ignite the flame that has been stilled for so long and to give direction and correction when needed.

Words are perhaps our most powerful weapon and I believe that if one is a true prophet of God their words will have power they will make that spark in peoples hearts they will move others they will impact the hearts and souls of others they will inspire and make others thirst for God and one of the people here that I recognize as a true prophet of God is a young girl by the name of Demi.

She has not been here that long and though she only sixteen she shows understanding and insight into God's realm well beyond her years I have seen how her words alone have moved others so deeply and when she is praised for what she has spoken I always thank God for her. I don't know for sure if she knows her role as a prophet but i know the fruits of one
 
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Just the fact that the Bible says there are and will be prophets, and to covet it, I think points to God feeling that prophets are needed. Where the Bible says it's to edify the assembly of believers I think points also to why they are needed. Sure anyone can look up the word of God in their own personal book but that doesn't mean they can apply it correctly (as is so well evidenced among these threads). Prophecy today takes the existing word of God and applies it to current situations for people who weren't around for when it was first uttered.

Prophecy is needed to help the existing word of God to be properly applied to today's people and situations. And prophecy requires prophets to bring it.
We have the completed word of God and the word "fail" is clear in 1st Corinthians 13 as well as "and NOW ABIDETH"