How old is planet earth?

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Laish

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Hum interesting question.
I think the earth is as old as dirt. That's pretty old from my understanding.
Honestly knowing how old the creation is dose not reveal anything about the Creator.
knowing more about the Creator will tell you all you need to know of the creation.
If God had a desire fo us to know it would be spelled out . Try looking towards the
Creator and not the creation.
Blessings
Bill
 

trofimus

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Sorry. I missed this reply earlier. I have to say a day is a day, as in what we now call 24 hours. (Only quoted your writing to explain something to all who may be interested as it is an ideal quote to quote!)
I say this as if you extend the period between each day the account of how God created the Heavens and the Earth would not work. For example. Day three. God made the plants and the trees. Day four. God made the sun and the moon. Consider this. Put a year between day three and day four. You may be lucky and have two or three plants remain. Now if a thousand years is as a day is misquoted and added between day three and day four, to you think plants and trees would live for a thousand years without the heat from the sun?

To say "a day is just a day and it means 24hours" is a huge misunderstanding of the Hebrew word, putting your English use of the word to the thousands years old book and also ignoring the text of the Genesis.
 

ForthAngel

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It cant. Its not the purpose of biblical genealogies.
The genealogies paired with the history recorded, places people were at certain times, the lifespans recorded, etc, can all be used to make a legitimate estimate of when man came into being regardless of their intended purpose for being there. The consensus among historians puts that at 6,000-10,000 years ago. You dismiss the idea of days actually meaning days in Genesis 1. This concept is fairly new and uses an interpretation of the bible based off of the flawed scientific cosmological model and origin of life hypothesis (Darwinian evolution falls dreadfully short of evidence to call it a scientific theory).

Genesis 1 can't be referring to an allegorical amount of time because it's made clear that a full day cycle took place with the words "and evening and morning were the # day". It denotes a full day cycle, not epochs of time. Using 2 Peter 3:8 or Psalm 90:4 to interpret the creation story doesn't make sense within their contexts. 2 Peter 3 doesn't refer to creation in any sense, and while Psalm 90 vaguely references creation, it still doesn't apply "a thousand years" to the time span it took place in. The psalmists also makes clear what we understand as actual day and night cycles in the same chapter.

If the creation account should be understood as allegorical, then scripture loses its foundation and why not take it to it's fullest extent and say all the characters mentioned were just allegorical stories to teach us lessons? The flood didn't really happen, how could it have? If God meant for us to interpret "a day" in the account as an epoch of time, I think he would have been more clear. He apparently meant for us to understand it as a literal day since there is the mention of evening and morning each day denoting a full day cycle.

It's sad to see so many Christians adhering to evolution and scientific cosmology, neither of which have ever been substantiated. And as was mentioned already, the order of events during the creation causes any other interpretation than that of a literal day to fall short.
 

trofimus

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The genealogies paired with the history recorded, places people were at certain times, the lifespans recorded, etc, can all be used to make a legitimate estimate of when man came into being regardless of their intended purpose for being there. The consensus among historians puts that at 6,000-10,000 years ago. You dismiss the idea of days actually meaning days in Genesis 1. This concept is fairly new and uses an interpretation of the bible based off of the flawed scientific cosmological model and origin of life hypothesis (Darwinian evolution falls dreadfully short of evidence to call it a scientific theory).

Genesis 1 can't be referring to an allegorical amount of time because it's made clear that a full day cycle took place with the words "and evening and morning were the # day". It denotes a full day cycle, not epochs of time. Using 2 Peter 3:8 or Psalm 90:4 to interpret the creation story doesn't make sense within their contexts. 2 Peter 3 doesn't refer to creation in any sense, and while Psalm 90 vaguely references creation, it still doesn't apply "a thousand years" to the time span it took place in. The psalmists also makes clear what we understand as actual day and night cycles in the same chapter.

If the creation account should be understood as allegorical, then scripture loses its foundation and why not take it to it's fullest extent and say all the characters mentioned were just allegorical stories to teach us lessons? The flood didn't really happen, how could it have? If God meant for us to interpret "a day" in the account as an epoch of time, I think he would have been more clear. He apparently meant for us to understand it as a literal day since there is the mention of evening and morning each day denoting a full day cycle.

It's sad to see so many Christians adhering to evolution and scientific cosmology, neither of which have ever been substantiated. And as was mentioned already, the order of events during the creation causes any other interpretation than that of a literal day to fall short.
1. Genealogies are not complete. We have no idea how many generations were from Adam to Abraham, for example.

2. Even if those were complete, it can only say how much time from Adam to Jesus. Not the age of the planet or even the Universe.
 

Bookends

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I feel like you have good points, but all of science tells us that in order for the fossils that are carved into the ice to be layered in the manner like they are, a few million years has to pass. This is a difficult topic :( My brain goes ouchie
I think the stars and other heavenly bodies give stronger evidence that God's creation could billions of years old. I don't think the bible really gives an approximate age of the earth. If you are interested in learning more about old earth Creationism from a Christian perspective seek out Hugh Ross and his web site "reasons to believe."
 

trofimus

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I like when Magenta likes arguments of both sides :)
 

NayborBear

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Probably depends on the kind of school.

I do not recall anybody to teach me in school "Big Bang happened by random chance". They just said the reason is scientifically unknown and there are some scientific hypothesis and religious explanations.
Just my opinion, the big bang, was the sound made, when God KICKED satan outta heaven! "The BANG heard throughout the cosmos!" :cool:
 

trofimus

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Just my opinion, the big bang, was the sound made, when God KICKED satan outta heaven! "The BANG heard throughout the cosmos!" :cool:
The funny thing is, that there is no sound in the Universe, so it was more the Big Silent Bum! :)
 
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Venus is often referred to as “Earth’s Sister” planet, because of the various things they have in common. Earth and Venus are terrestrial planets, primarily composed of metals and silicate rock that are differentiated between a metallic core and a silicate mantle and crust.[FONT=&]

Two ways in which they are in stark contrast is the time it takes for the Sun to rise, set, and return to the same place in the sky (i.e. one day). In Earth’s case, this process takes a full 24 hours. But in Venus’ case, its slow rotation and orbit mean that a single day lasts as long as 116.75 Earth days.
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Sidereal Vs. Solar:

[FONT=&]Naturally, some clarification is necessary when addressing the question of how long a day lasts. For starters, one must distinguish between a sidereal day and a solar day. A sidereal day is the time it takes for a planet to complete a single rotation on its axis. On the other hand, a solar day is the time it takes for the Sun to return to the same place in the sky.
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[FONT=&]On Earth, a sidereal days last 23 hours 56 minutes and 4.1 seconds, whereas a solar day lasts exactly 24 hours. In Venus’ case, it takes a whopping 243.025 days for the planet to rotate once on its axis – which is the longest rotational period of any planet in the Solar System. In addition, it rotates in the opposite the direction in which it orbits around the Sun (which it takes about 224.7 Earth days to complete).
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[FONT=&]In other words, Venus has a retrograde rotation, which means that if you could view the planet from above its northern polar region, it would be seen to rotate in a clockwise direction on its axis, and in a counter-clockwise direction around the Sun. It also means that if you could stand on the surface of Venus, the Sun would rise in the west and set in the east.
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[FONT=&]From all this, one might assume that a single day lasts longer than a year on Venus. But again, the distinction between a sidereal and solar days means that this is not true. Combined with its orbital period, the time it takes for the Sun to return to the same point in the sky works out to 116.75 Earth days, which is little more than a half a Venusian (or Cytherian) year. [/FONT]https://www.universetoday.com/14282/how-long-is-a-day-on-venus/
Ahh well thanks for clearfiying that up, so we can safely say God created planet Venus's day length to be 2,802 hours long interesting.
 
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BeyondET

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The funny thing is, that there is no sound in the Universe, so it was more the Big Silent Bum! :)
Amazingly there are lots of sounds in the universe, from the Big Bang to planets and Suns etc.
 
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BeyondET

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Here's something interesting, the dwarf planet Pluto takes 248 years to make one rotation around the Sun at least from what we consider a year length on earth, though if people where on Pluto I'd assume it would be still concidered a single year though that would be a long time from a earth prospective. every planet has its own length of year, quite the task to determine the age of our own little small solar system and that's not even bringing into account the whole universe and the Godzillion amount of time bubbles out there.

Pluto is the only planet that has a elliptical path around the Sun.

 
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eternally-gratefull

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You are a gapper, using Jer 4v23-27 to justify an old earth is the dead give away here.


who created the cities in vs 27? Lol. That's why study helps. Amen, that was a dead giveaway
 
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Here's something interesting, the dwarf planet Pluto takes 248 years to make one rotation around the Sun at least from what we consider a year length on earth, though if people where on Pluto I'd assume it would be still concidered a single year though that would be a long time from a earth prospective. every planet has its own length of year, quite the task to determine the age of our own little small solar system and that's not even bringing into account the whole universe and the Godzillion amount of time bubbles out there.

Pluto is the only planet that has a elliptical path around the Sun.

That's an interesting conclusion. How was that determined?
[video=youtube;0jHsq36_NTU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU[/video]
 
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eternally-gratefull

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We do know that man has been on the Earth for about Six thousand years..There were other "people" here for a long time before we were created though. We have no way of knowing just how old the Earth is though.
do tell, who are these other people?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I'm still trying to figure out how I could use the bible to find the age of the planet. There isn't anything I can see to do that. Can you show me? Kind of talk to me as though I were an old man. LOL which I'm not.
The bible states in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, and gives us it original State (void and without form). It then goes on to go into further detail of what took place in six days, on day 6 God created mankind,

Now take the record of genealogy from Adam until Christ, which is recorded, and we can have a pretty accurate account of how old the earth is. Considering the Bible even tells us how old Adam was when he died, the only variable would be if that number of years was post fall, and Adam lived a great number of years before the fall which we do not know.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I think the stars and other heavenly bodies give stronger evidence that God's creation could billions of years old. I don't think the bible really gives an approximate age of the earth. If you are interested in learning more about old earth Creationism from a Christian perspective seek out Hugh Ross and his web site "reasons to believe."

Not saying my brother is wrong, but want to give a counter to this.

if God made the earth and heavens to support life on earth, which was created on day 6, Then God would have created the stars to appear on day 6 on earth no matter how many light years away they are

so the earth and solar system would have an appearance of age, it would have to to support life.

If God can create man and all life, plus the universe and set it so perfectly to support life, he can create it aged enough and ready to support that life at the time he created it.
 
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BeyondET

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That's an interesting conclusion. How was that determined?
That is interesting here's a vid that kind of mentions that vortex, stars moving in and out of the galaxy arms.

[video=youtube;ab4W_1jwQHo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab4W_1jwQHo[/video]