How old is planet earth?

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CaptainGoat

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Regarding dinosaurs. I believe these to be simply extinct animals. Some were very small. Some were big. Mind you, some humans were big too. Has anyone seen the reports of the thousands of giants that were destroyed over the years found in the USA where a court has ordered for historical records of the digs etc to be shown? Trying to remember the details.
 
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wait! wait! is this thread actually about the Great Kangaroo Diaspora?


 
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CaptainGoat

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lol yea that's about right, like searching the bible for Simon Peter's wife name but nonetheless Jesus did arrive at Simon peter's mother in law house and healed her.
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Mind you. Searching in wikipedia for such an answer is like waiting for passing clouds to spell out your name!
 
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Mind you. Searching in wikipedia for such an answer is like waiting for passing clouds to spell out your name!
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Oh. It only put your reply and not the original quote as well. Sorry it looks weird!
 
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BeyondET

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CaptainGoat said:
Regarding dinosaurs. I believe these to be simply extinct animals. Some were very small. Some were big. Mind you, some humans were big too. Has anyone seen the reports of the thousands of giants that were destroyed over the years found in the USA where a court has ordered for historical records of the digs etc to be shown? Trying to remember the details.
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Alligators and crocodiles are living dinosaurs.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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CaptainGoat said:
Regarding dinosaurs. I believe these to be simply extinct animals. Some were very small. Some were big. Mind you, some humans were big too. Has anyone seen the reports of the thousands of giants that were destroyed over the years found in the USA where a court has ordered for historical records of the digs etc to be shown? Trying to remember the details.
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there are dino's in the bible.

Job spoke of the behemoth, the greatest of Gods creatures. I know some call it a hippo. but the characteristics do not fit. We also have the leviathon

Many believe they came over on the ark, but could not suvrive the post flood world. which was much different than preflood.

 
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BeyondET said:
Alligators and crocodiles are living dinosaurs.
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So are dogs, cats, mice... Frogs.... It depends if you try to separate one group from another. Take dodos for example. If we didn't have historical record and only found bones, and these bones didn't take well to dating tools, then we would assume to put a date in between today and the cold blooded dinosaurs chiefly based on an evolutionary viewpoint, but if we take a creationist stance where God made everything and the only concept of a type of evolution is natural and man encouraged breeding, then we have a totally different concept and picture. Evolution is the wrong word for the concept Darwin (And others before him. He wasn't the first) saw. Darwin saw devolution or extinction in progress. At no point did he witness evidence of evolution. Back in those days the concept of evolution was a well talked about subject so when Darwin presented his evidence the press of their day jumped on the idea and claimed it was evolution. Darwin himself didn't at first push this, even though his father was involved in a group who were pushing this concept.
There were many such theories going round for hundreds or even thousands of years.
 
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Thanks for explaining it. So in theory a high rep power means you have been on the site a while and a low rep power means you have not. That is assuming you post in the forum on a regular basis.
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Yes, that's about how it works. After you have a post history you may attract the attention of certain other members, some of which have very high rep powers. If these members rep you your rep power might instantly increase 2 or 3 rep powers depending on the amount of rep points you had previously accumulated above multiples of 100. If you post infrequently some members may not be familiar with you and you probably will not accumulate too many rep points. Members with a bad reputation or are obnoxious will rarely receive a rep comment.
 
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The earth is indeed billions of years old. it's creation that is about 6000 years old. the earth had been forming for along time engulfed in water. It is the water that formed it. the universe was all water. in fact this might be a little too heavy for you, but it is the water that brought God into existence ..where the water come from is unknown, but it was first before anything else. you can say that it was God in his earlier form. The bible talks much about water and spirit. the source of all life.
 
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BeyondET

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CaptainGoat said:
So are dogs, cats, mice... Frogs.... It depends if you try to separate one group from another. Take dodos for example. If we didn't have historical record and only found bones, and these bones didn't take well to dating tools, then we would assume to put a date in between today and the cold blooded dinosaurs chiefly based on an evolutionary viewpoint, but if we take a creationist stance where God made everything and the only concept of a type of evolution is natural and man encouraged breeding, then we have a totally different concept and picture. Evolution is the wrong word for the concept Darwin (And others before him. He wasn't the first) saw. Darwin saw devolution or extinction in progress. At no point did he witness evidence of evolution. Back in those days the concept of evolution was a well talked about subject so when Darwin presented his evidence the press of their day jumped on the idea and claimed it was evolution. Darwin himself didn't at first push this, even though his father was involved in a group who were pushing this concept.
There were many such theories going round for hundreds or even thousands of years.
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adaptation is probably a better word for evolution, then again the human egg soupwater evolves into a physical person, though what doesn't come from a sack of water?,
 
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CaptainGoat

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eternally-gratefull said:
there are dino's in the bible.

Job spoke of the behemoth, the greatest of Gods creatures. I know some call it a hippo. but the characteristics do not fit. We also have the leviathon

Many believe they came over on the ark, but could not suvrive the post flood world. which was much different than preflood.

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Behemoth, leviathan and unicorn are mentioned. Both hippo and crocodile are clearly very wrong creatures to match the descriptions of the Biblical accounts. Both those cases were clearly what we see as what we call a dinosaur today. Unicorn is more interesting. Understand that a horn may not be bone. Clearly they were a rare breed back then, hence it wouldn't make so much sense to mention the animal. Consider this. the horse like creature concept had to come from word of mouth sightings of people who lived generations before us. Also, a rare creature that had such a horn may have been the first to be hunted to get that horn for use as a tool or the pride in having something so unique. Hence the possible lack of evidence along with its rarity? Another idea is the horn may not be bone? I doubt it is a rhinoceros as these are likely to be plentiful and hardly as majestic to bring to the attention to Job? Just a few thoughts!
 
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The old world was all giants compared to the size of the new world. this is what Moses was talking about ,the giants in the land in those days. Noah and his three sons and wives were from the old world ,that is why giants were in the land after the flood. their genes weaken over centuries ,perhaps, God's plan, so did the animals. The smaller the creature, the shorter the life span. The larger the creature ,the longer the life span. that was the way it was in the old world.
 
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CaptainGoat said:
So are dogs, cats, mice... Frogs.... It depends if you try to separate one group from another. Take dodos for example. If we didn't have historical record and only found bones, and these bones didn't take well to dating tools, then we would assume to put a date in between today and the cold blooded dinosaurs chiefly based on an evolutionary viewpoint, but if we take a creationist stance where God made everything and the only concept of a type of evolution is natural and man encouraged breeding, then we have a totally different concept and picture. Evolution is the wrong word for the concept Darwin (And others before him. He wasn't the first) saw. Darwin saw devolution or extinction in progress. At no point did he witness evidence of evolution. Back in those days the concept of evolution was a well talked about subject so when Darwin presented his evidence the press of their day jumped on the idea and claimed it was evolution. Darwin himself didn't at first push this, even though his father was involved in a group who were pushing this concept.
There were many such theories going round for hundreds or even thousands of years.
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Its interesting that you say Darwin had no evidence of evolution taking place. I was homeschooled so I learned biology from a christian perspective. The book talked about Darwin and the discoveries he found. He was on an island of some sort I believe, and while there he recorded finches and how some had different beaks and such. Ironic thing is he had gone to seminary and was taking a break to record nature while on a certain ship. So he did discover that birds evolve within their kind. He then took that truth and stretched it saying that animals evolved from one kind to another which there is simply no evidence of that.

And if one wants "proof" of where I got that from I got it from apologia biology.
 
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BeyondET

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Gabriel2020 said:
The earth is indeed billions of years old. it's creation that is about 6000 years old. the earth had been forming for along time engulfed in water. It is the water that formed it. the universe was all water. in fact this might be a little too heavy for you, but it is the water that brought God into existence ..where the water come from is unknown, but it was first before anything else. you can say that it was God in his earlier form. The bible talks much about water and spirit. the source of all life.
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Water can be refined to the finite matter of hydrogen.
 
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BeyondET

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In the beginning God created hydrogen and helium with a pinch of lithium and beryllium what bang that set off.
 
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If my faith in Jesus rests on how old the earth is...i believe
I'm going in the wrong direction...love the Lord your God
with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself...in this
the entire law is fulfilled...after the washing of the feet,
Jesus said "I have given you example that so you also should
do. I think it's a good idea to try that.
 
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Gabriel2020 said:
The earth is indeed billions of years old. it's creation that is about 6000 years old. the earth had been forming for along time engulfed in water. It is the water that formed it. the universe was all water. in fact this might be a little too heavy for you, but it is the water that brought God into existence ..where the water come from is unknown, but it was first before anything else. you can say that it was God in his earlier form. The bible talks much about water and spirit. the source of all life.
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That would work if you ignore John chapter 1verse 1-3, Genesis chapter 1 verse 1, 2, 6 etc. It is an interesting concept but does not add up to the words used and how they are said. It works if we add our own interpretations but then it goes astray with other aspects and verses so it does not dot the I's and cross the T's (As the saying goes!). Is a new idea for me to hear though. :)
 
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CaptainGoat said:
That would work if you ignore John chapter 1verse 1-3, Genesis chapter 1 verse 1, 2, 6 etc. It is an interesting concept but does not add up to the words used and how they are said. It works if we add our own interpretations but then it goes astray with other aspects and verses so it does not dot the I's and cross the T's (As the saying goes!). Is a new idea for me to hear though. :)
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Yeah most of these "estimates" are using man's words of creation rather than God's.
 
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At least 6000 years old. The actual age depends on how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden. Your guess about that period is as good as mine.
 
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