Hypocrites beware

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AnandaHya

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Necto said:
Better for him to learn the truth now, rather than on the court of the church. If a person says that he has the Spirit, and reads the Bible, it is still nothing say about! At the trial, many will be shocked! You may find that all that he did a Christian on earth, rejected by God! Do you judge by your eyes? Or by hearing of yours ears you decide things? If it was not ignorance, it would be a partiality! You do not know the real Spirit , so you do not know anyone before you.
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ask yourself the same question, by what means do you judge others?

how do you know he is rejected by God? who is the "he" you are referring to?

I do not judge by either my eyes or my ears for I do not judge people.

I discern through the Holy Spirit and sometimes God tells me there are things in the universe I do not need to know. However God has equipped me for my task in this life with the knowledge of what unconditional love is and what kindness, patience, peace, joy and self control should be. With diligence and the guidance of the Holy Spirit I add to my faith every day and strive to be virtuous, gain knowledge and offer to others brotherly and sisterly kindness.

I do not judge with partiality and prove your statement that I "do not know the real Spirit"

and no I do not think I am perfect but I abstain from even judging my self and go before God's throne and ask Him what I need to do to grow and be the person He created me to be.

how do you know anyone before you?
 
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Abiding said:
VW ...........many times you have said and have a following that sidse with you saying that you were lost by believing the bible.
Every Christian I have ever known believes the bible, although the bible needs to be obeyed in order to not be decieved. You dont
say it that way. If the bible is truth, then it was your own disobedience that decieved you.

Now you are decieving other people telling that the bible decieved you, and we have the kind of nonesence here like: do you worship the bible?
and such. Id have never guessed with all the idoltry in the world the prophets spoke out against that id ever hear one throw fear at people
to study the word of God, while claiming they should listen to the spirit expecting more revelation than what is in scripture.

Jesus warned people to not do as some preaching the word but never doing it themselves. But He never, ever warned anyone that it would decieve them.
No actually it was the words of life. Actually He said His words were spirit. So if you have this spirit that is beyond the words....you have a devil.
That explains the talking down of the word, and the sheep beating you do.

My first bout with you I explained to you that the word and the Spirit are one. You seperate them and teach others to....you are not led by the Holyspirit!!
To even discuss whether you are a true prophet would be silly.
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I am amazed at how you read words, written clearly, even still. I never said that the bible deceived me. That is your interpretation of what I wrote, it is not what I wrote.

I wrote that I was deceived because I only read and understood the bible with my mind, and not with the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

You consider the bible to be the Holy Spirit, that they two are the same. I pointed out to you that they are not, that one comes from the other, that the scriptures come from the Holy Spirit and thus cannot be the same as or even equal to the Holy Spirit. (Unless you wish to change the godhead to the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, and the Bible.)

If the bible was and is equal to the Holy Spirit, then explain how the devil could use scripture to tempt Jesus our Lord?

I teach that to understand scripture as it truly is one must rely on the leading of the Holy Spirit completely. In fact, I tie the scripture to the Holy Spirit in a godly way, while you do not.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.
 
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But it doesnt work that way VW. The Holyspirit doest just open your eyes because you believe in the annointing. He opens your eyes
when your heart is right. God permits our repentance, not all repentance will be accepted. Many people have studied the bible before
their eyes were openned some, and that progresses, as we grow. Its not an all at once thing. YOU are nothing special or different in this.
Jesus said IF you obey my commandments...THEN i will send the comforter. This happens with or without the knowledge of the annointing.
The annointing comes with new birth not a theology degree. Or watching Christian TV. In other words your problem was your heart, not the word
or the Spirit, or your awareness of the Spirit. Ill provide scripture on any of this if need be.

Learning the bible in our mind is fine and you should be careful, becuase you speak lowly of it. Thats not your job and its just plain wrong.
Its as sure as there is a sun in the sky that if a person reads the bible and obeys it the Spirit will open their eyes, they will pray and receive
the grace to live pleasing in His sight. He will keep them. Dont even start to backpeddle on what youve said or ill pull up all the references.
Ive said from the time we met the Holyspirit and the Word work togather. I will not divide them or make one more or less. You have and the danger
in that isit is all through the church. Tons of babes in Christ running around led by there flesh and whatever pops in their head, and say they are led by the
Spirit. Becuase of teachers like you. How do they know? Well the spirit told em what else. Do you want to be a part of misleading people and yell repent at the same time?
 
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Abiding

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Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every whim of the spirit....wheres that verse again?
 
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Nalu

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Abiding said:
VW ...........many times you have said and have a following that sidse with you saying that you were lost by believing the bible.
Every Christian I have ever known believes the bible, although the bible needs to be obeyed in order to not be decieved. You dont
say it that way. If the bible is truth, then it was your own disobedience that decieved you.

Now you are decieving other people telling that the bible decieved you, and we have the kind of nonesence here like: do you worship the bible?
and such. Id have never guessed with all the idoltry in the world the prophets spoke out against that id ever hear one throw fear at people
to study the word of God, while claiming they should listen to the spirit expecting more revelation than what is in scripture.

Jesus warned people to not do as some preaching the word but never doing it themselves. But He never, ever warned anyone that it would decieve them.
No actually it was the words of life. Actually He said His words were spirit. So if you have this spirit that is beyond the words....you have a devil.
That explains the talking down of the word, and the sheep beating you do.

My first bout with you I explained to you that the word and the Spirit are one. You seperate them and teach others to....you are not led by the Holyspirit!!
To even discuss whether you are a true prophet would be silly.
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Yes, silly indeed.
 
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AnandaHya

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Abiding said:
Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every whim of the spirit....wheres that verse again?
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Matthew 4:4
But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’”

Luke 4:4
But Jesus answered him, saying, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.’”

but Abiding they get "private revelations" remember?
 
zone

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VW said:
Jeremiah 23:16:20
Thus says the Lord of hosts,
"Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you.
They are leading you into futility;
They speak a vision of their own imagination,
Not from the mouth of the Lord.
Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.
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oh yes.
another of israel's ancient prophets, jeremiah.
jeremiah who ministered to the israelites, warning them of their babylonian captivity, but also telling them of the one day promise of the Righteous Branch.

jeremiah who prophesied in the way God used His prophets of old times, with the highly specific formulas..."Thus saith The Lord"....

jeremiah...whose ministry was to ancient israel nearly 600 years before Jesus came.

historical jeremiah: the words of The Lord spoken through him dirtied and corrupted by someone in 2011 america, claiming Jesus speaks these things through him, to His Own Blood bought church.

that jeremiah. a real prophet.
 
zone

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a bank teller learns how to recognize counterfeit bills by handling the real money.

as it is with the True Spirit of God, and his holy scriptures.....He leads us into truth, and points out the fakes along the way.
and He is always faithful to do so.
 
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Abiding

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Yes! Im pondering scripture. Plenty of it to teach on the Holyspirit and the Word. And how we
know the false from the true...hmmm. Think ill put on a pot. :)
 
VW

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zone said:
oh yes.
another of israel's ancient prophets, jeremiah.
jeremiah who ministered to the israelites, warning them of their babylonian captivity, but also telling them of the one day promise of the Righteous Branch.

jeremiah who prophesied in the way God used His prophets of old times, with the highly specific formulas..."Thus saith The Lord"....

jeremiah...whose ministry was to ancient israel nearly 600 years before Jesus came.

historical jeremiah: the words of The Lord spoken through him dirtied and corrupted by someone in 2011 america, claiming Jesus speaks these things through him, to His Own Blood bought church.

that jeremiah. a real prophet.
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So now I am defiled, and I cannot even use scripture, because if I do, I defile it by my use.

I rebuke you, in the name of Jesus Christ.
 
VW

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Hypocrites, beware. Your day is coming, and you will weep and howl for the horror and the terror of it, when you realize what it means.
 
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AnandaHya

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VW said:
So now I am defiled, and I cannot even use scripture, because if I do, I defile it by my use.

I rebuke you, in the name of Jesus Christ.
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what?? where did that come from?
 
VW

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zone said:
historical jeremiah: the words of The Lord spoken through him dirtied and corrupted by someone in 2011 america, claiming Jesus speaks these things through him, to His Own Blood bought church.

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Right here. Dirtied and corrupted by me.

Or do you suppose that she was talking about someone else?

Repent,

You know why
 
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Nalu

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VW said:
Hypocrites, beware. Your day is coming, and you will weep and howl for the horror and the terror of it, when you realize what it means.
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Dude, are you for real, woooooooo scary.
 
zone

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VW said:
Right here. Dirtied and corrupted by me.

Or do you suppose that she was talking about someone else?

Repent,

You know why
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you are a devil. the Lord rebuke you.
 
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VW said:
So now I am defiled, and I cannot even use scripture, because if I do, I defile it by my use.
I rebuke you, in the name of Jesus Christ.
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no you can not (you continue to though).
you gave up the priviledge to handle the precious word with care.
you chose another gospel.

using the Name of Jesus won't help you.
you're in a lot of trouble - but you don't care.
 
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AnandaHya

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zone said:
you are a devil. the Lord rebuke you.
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that's harsh zone. I thought Jesus told us to pray for people and pray that God will bind the demons that torment them and show them His Truth and His way.
 
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AnandaHya said:
that's harsh zone. I thought Jesus told us to pray for people and pray that God will bind the demons that torment them and show them His Truth and His way.
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You aint seen nothing yet. She has just started to show her spirit.

I would just as soon that Zone not pray for me. Even if I believed that she would be inclined to.

Look, up, for your redemption draws near.
 
VW

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zone said:
no you can not (you continue to though).
you gave up the priviledge to handle the precious word with care.
you chose another gospel.

using the Name of Jesus won't help you.
you're in a lot of trouble - but you don't care.
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No, I was in trouble, and it costs me more than you can know.

I have peace with God through the cross of Jesus Christ. I am His child by the rebirth of the Holy Spirit. I have given my life to Him, in all its facets. He is my life, for I have died with Him.

He is getting closer to His return.
 
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