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eternally-gratefull

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Oh, and I disagree. A call to repentance is not a judgment in any way. John made this call and no one took it for judgment.
John was not judging people because they disagreed with him. He was teaching a message. Your judging people because they disagree with you. You can't even see the difference. My how lost some people are in their pwn pride.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Paul wrote that he received the truth by revelation.
He did. Paul knew scripture. And he rejected it, and God made a personal visit to him. But you think God did not use scripture to reveal to him truth? Thats funny. When Paul spoke Gods truth and Gods gospel. Paul did not say this is what God told me personally in a vision or a dream. Paul, as scripture says, Reasoned from scripture.

Paul knew where scripture belonged.
You keep twisting thengs to try to get your message heard. People see your as you are. and your angry by it. Its ok, The pharisees were angry too.
 

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He did. Paul knew scripture. And he rejected it, and God made a personal visit to him. But you think God did not use scripture to reveal to him truth? Thats funny. When Paul spoke Gods truth and Gods gospel. Paul did not say this is what God told me personally in a vision or a dream. Paul, as scripture says, Reasoned from scripture.

Paul knew where scripture belonged. You keep twisting thengs to try to get your message heard. People see your as you are. and your angry by it. Its ok, The pharisees were angry too.
this man is wicked EG....thoroughly.
 
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Laodicea

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He did. Paul knew scripture. And he rejected it, and God made a personal visit to him. But you think God did not use scripture to reveal to him truth? Thats funny. When Paul spoke Gods truth and Gods gospel. Paul did not say this is what God told me personally in a vision or a dream. Paul, as scripture says, Reasoned from scripture.

Paul knew where scripture belonged.
You keep twisting thengs to try to get your message heard. People see your as you are. and your angry by it. Its ok, The pharisees were angry too.
Amen brother I agree with you he just wants to push his false ideas
 

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He did. Paul knew scripture. And he rejected it, and God made a personal visit to him. But you think God did not use scripture to reveal to him truth? Thats funny. When Paul spoke Gods truth and Gods gospel. Paul did not say this is what God told me personally in a vision or a dream. Paul, as scripture says, Reasoned from scripture.

Paul knew where scripture belonged.
You keep twisting thengs to try to get your message heard. People see your as you are. and your angry by it. Its ok, The pharisees were angry too.
Paul received the truth by revelation from the prophets and the Law. You jumped the gun there brother. You don't even know where he wrote that do you?

Stop lying about what I say. I have never dismissed scripture.
 
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AnandaHya

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I am still waiting for you to tell is all who the Antichrist is.
I know I know: anyone who keeps people from the knowledge of GOD and total acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior....

1 John 4:2-4
New King James Version (NKJV)
2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that[a] Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
 
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AnandaHya

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Paul wrote that he received the truth by revelation.
Paul was a Pharisee who could quote the Torah line and verse from memory.
 
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Oh, and I disagree. A call to repentance is not a judgment in any way. John made this call and no one took it for judgment.
But that is not what you think concerning the Revelation given to John about the (7) churches, especially Laodicea. Are you going to tell us that you believe that their call to repent did not include some form of judgment if they refused?

and what about (Lk 1:3-5)...

3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent , ye shall all likewise perish . 4 Or those eighteen , upon whom the tower in Siloam fell , and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent , ye shall all likewise perish .

Even in your above statement when you say that calling one to repent is not a judgment, do you fail to see the purpose of repentance and what is to be avoided if one does repent? If you tell others to repent and do not know the consequences of those that refuse, why do you call them to repent in the first place? You call people to repent because you know that they will be judged for not heeding repentance.

My question to you is this... What are you calling people to repent of and if they refuse what is the consequence? If you believe that you are right about this repentance concerning the corruption of the church, because you have it from the Spirit, what will be the consequence for the church is she does not repent? You have referred to God being ready to spue out of His mouth the church of Laodicea, can you tell us what the meaning of that statement that came from the mouth of God and the counsel that was given to them in (Rev 3:18)...

18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich ; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed , and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear ; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see .

Surely, as a prophet, who has been given the ability to interpret divine inspiration as well as to hear from God, you can give us the meaning of these things as one who has been raised up of God to call the church to repentance.
 

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But that is not what you think concerning the Revelation given to John about the (7) churches, especially Laodicea. Are you going to tell us that you believe that their call to repent did not include some form of judgment if they refused?

and what about (Lk 1:3-5)...

3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent , ye shall all likewise perish . 4 Or those eighteen , upon whom the tower in Siloam fell , and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent , ye shall all likewise perish .

Even in your above statement when you say that calling one to repent is not a judgment, do you fail to see the purpose of repentance and what is to be avoided if one does repent? If you tell others to repent and do not know the consequences of those that refuse, why do you call them to repent in the first place? You call people to repent because you know that they will be judged for not heeding repentance.

My question to you is this... What are you calling people to repent of and if they refuse what is the consequence? If you believe that you are right about this repentance concerning the corruption of the church, because you have it from the Spirit, what will be the consequence for the church is she does not repent? You have referred to God being ready to spue out of His mouth the church of Laodicea, can you tell us what the meaning of that statement that came from the mouth of God and the counsel that was given to them in (Rev 3:18)...

18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich ; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed , and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear ; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see .

Surely, as a prophet, who has been given the ability to interpret divine inspiration as well as to hear from God, you can give us the meaning of these things as one who has been raised up of God to call the church to repentance.
If a prophet calls to repentance, and the people do not, then it is not the prophet who judges.

There is One who judges.
 

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Paul was a Pharisee who could quote the Torah line and verse from memory.
Ah, so you are up now and are going to jump on the merry band wagon.

Yes, and he was a violent aggressor against God for that.
 

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I know I know: anyone who keeps people from the knowledge of GOD and total acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior....

1 John 4:2-4
New King James Version (NKJV)
2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that[a] Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
Have you read what he wrote?

That the Antichrist has been revealed? That he knows who he is, and he is in the church?

I would like to know who he is, wouldn't you?
 
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AnandaHya

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Have you read what he wrote?

That the Antichrist has been revealed? That he knows who he is, and he is in the church?

I would like to know who he is, wouldn't you?
yep just did, i even clicked the link, it names the pope. in case you didn't click on it

i like my answer better.

we have a Bandwagon? which band is playing? Can we get casting crown? I love their song "Voice of Truth".

‪Voice Of Truth - Casting Crowns‬‏ - YouTube

Psalm 40:11
New King James Version (NKJV)

11 Do not withhold Your tender mercies from me, O LORD;
Let Your lovingkindness and Your truth continually preserve me
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any way GOOD morning WORLD. Praise God for the sunrise and His many blessings :)

 
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AnandaHya

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Ah, so you are up now and are going to jump on the merry band wagon.

Yes, and he was a violent aggressor against God for that.
yes but the law was given by angels to tutor people in the knowledge of what is expected and so they may be lead to Jesus for the spirit of prophecy is Testimony of Jesus Christ. therefore they can be brought to godly sorrow and repentance in honest recognition that they alone can not meet the requirements needed for salvation and show them their desperate need for a savior. it tills the ground so the seed of Gospel will find it fertile and grow. it is the nutrients for the roots to sink deep in and the plant to be fruitful in Christ. He was a violent aggressor against anything he thought was false and God made him that way so that when the truth was revealed to him he would be just as ferverent and diligent to spread the true Gospel of Salvation to the rest of the world. God trained Paul in the law before training him in the gospel of grace.
 
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Laodicea

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yep just did, i even clicked the link, it names the pope. in case you didn't click on it




Revelation 17:4
(4) And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
 

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yes but the law was given by angels to tutor people in the knowledge of what is expected and so they may be lead to Jesus for the spirit of prophecy is Testimony of Jesus Christ. therefore they can be brought to godly sorrow and repentance in honest recognition that they alone can not meet the requirements needed for salvation and show them their desperate need for a savior. it tills the ground so the seed of Gospel will find it fertile and grow. it is the nutrients for the roots to sink deep in and the plant to be fruitful in Christ. He was a violent aggressor against anything he thought was false and God made him that way so that when the truth was revealed to him he would be just as ferverent and diligent to spread the true Gospel of Salvation to the rest of the world. God trained Paul in the law before training him in the gospel of grace.
Wow.

Wrong, but wow. God did not train Paul in the Law, the Pharisees did. Just ask Paul, or rather read what he wrote about that time of his life before the knowledge of Jesus Christ. Something about dung.
 

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Revelation 17:4
(4) And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Okay, so you believe that the current pope is the Antichrist.

Okay.
 
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Laodicea

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Okay, so you believe that the current pope is the Antichrist.

Okay.
Any Pope
Daniel 7:24
(24) And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

2 Samuel 12:30
(30) And he took their king's crown from off his head, the weight whereof was a talent of gold with the precious stones: and it was set on David's head. And he brought forth the spoil of the city in great abundance.


Before when a nation was overtaken the crown was put on the head of the victorious king



Pope is seen here with a triple crown Daniel 7:24 says that he shall subdue 3 kings. They claim to be able to forgive sins (blasphemy)
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"The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth...by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth." Quoted in the New York Catechism.

Revelation 13:1
(1) And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
 
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AnandaHya

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Wow.

Wrong, but wow. God did not train Paul in the Law, the Pharisees did. Just ask Paul, or rather read what he wrote about that time of his life before the knowledge of Jesus Christ. Something about dung.
Galatians 3:19
What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator.

some days I wonder why I bother... sigh...

anyway I"m bowing out of the whole antichrist discussion..
 
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Galatians 3:19
What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator.

some days I wonder why I bother... sigh...

anyway I"m bowing out of the whole antichrist discussion..

all i see in this thread is u wrong and u wrong intresting