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Hi Gary, Some people believe that an all loving God would not judge his creation, is that what you are saying? Was God judging against His own Self when He judged His creation by causing a flood that destroyed every living thing on the face of the earth unless you entered the Arc that Noah built? Do you believe in the biblical truth of the flood? If you do not what parts of the Bible do you believe and what parts of the Bible do you discard? An honest question because some folks on this forum want to know how you came to these conclusions about God. God bless you!
Genesis 6:7 The corruption of mankind
7 The Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.
Genesis 6:7 The corruption of mankind
7 The Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.
Peace be with you, as it is written; "Work out your Salvation with 'fear' and trembling."
"if you abide in MY Words, you are my disciples then you will know the truth and the truth will set you free."
One's freedom will only truly come when:
1. "If"
2. "Abide in JESUS's Words and love" (New Covenant)
3. "They are JESUS's disciples"
4. "Then they will come to know the truth"
5. "The truth will set them free"
One want and talk about freedom from fear but the Word proves that, that one still remains in sin and the flesh 'self' makes excuses for it to continue, by also learning to twist the truth, from as it is written.
JESUS is talking plainly about 'the Way of Liberty' here, to come out free from sin and death of the Old.
"i don't need just freedom from the enemy to ignore and continue with this world but i need liberty, to come out once and for all from all this worldly patterns now, before i am judged and condemn later for lawlessness citizen of born again faith."
Please stop and turn back to CHRIST our Great High Priest for help, in all your weaknesses highlighted by HIS Word.
As it is written; "You fear because you have not learned to love."
May GOD the FATHER our LORD JESUS CHRIST forgive and bless you n spirit and truth.
"if you abide in MY Words, you are my disciples then you will know the truth and the truth will set you free."
One's freedom will only truly come when:
1. "If"
2. "Abide in JESUS's Words and love" (New Covenant)
3. "They are JESUS's disciples"
4. "Then they will come to know the truth"
5. "The truth will set them free"
One want and talk about freedom from fear but the Word proves that, that one still remains in sin and the flesh 'self' makes excuses for it to continue, by also learning to twist the truth, from as it is written.
JESUS is talking plainly about 'the Way of Liberty' here, to come out free from sin and death of the Old.
"i don't need just freedom from the enemy to ignore and continue with this world but i need liberty, to come out once and for all from all this worldly patterns now, before i am judged and condemn later for lawlessness citizen of born again faith."
Please stop and turn back to CHRIST our Great High Priest for help, in all your weaknesses highlighted by HIS Word.
As it is written; "You fear because you have not learned to love."
May GOD the FATHER our LORD JESUS CHRIST forgive and bless you n spirit and truth.
Hi Blue pen. Thanks for the good discussion. Forgive me if you've answered this already elsewhere - I've only skimmed through parts of this thread. I see that you believe in God, JEsus, etc but reject the idea of a judgement. Given that both of these things are taught in Scripture, I'm interested to know how you came to your own belief about these matters, and how you decided which bits of Scripture were right and which were wrong?
K
This funny yet not funny I just posted this in another thread.
Mark 9 this is Jesus speaking.
42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Judgement is coming like it or not. I believe the whole bible, I don't pick and choose just what sounds good to me.
In the words of John, I ate the book and it was sweet in my mouth but bitter in my stomach.
Mark 9 this is Jesus speaking.
42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Judgement is coming like it or not. I believe the whole bible, I don't pick and choose just what sounds good to me.
In the words of John, I ate the book and it was sweet in my mouth but bitter in my stomach.
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If there was such a thing as sin then God would not be God. If there was such a thing as sin then you are calling God sinful since all things are created from God and therefore sin would have been too. But that is impossible, therefore logically sin cannot be real, eternal, or anything else of import.
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First of all are you an atheist? secondly are under the teaching that God is love and has no chastisement or Judgement among people? I need to know what grounds you are preaching from. Maybe I could be of some service to your questions. I do not for instance believe I have exhausted the word of God nor understand it in totality but, have been in study for many years, prayerfully and practically.
Are you saying that there is no sin?
Are you saying that there is no sin?
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I came to my beliefs by almost literally spontaineously combusting over my fear of God, which I still fear often, so i searched and searched for an explanation of God where this cannot be so, and, bonus, happens to be true. I divide scriptures into those that are wholly loving, kind and merciful (true) and those which are not (not true). I cannot love God under any other circumstance.