"I Have a Dream"

[CDavid]

If this was a message for all of God's people, "come my people, it is time!", then why are you the only one that heard it? Dreams and visions are notoriously unreliable and always need to be check to a subjective framework, namely the Word of God.

Read the book of Acts and you'll find your answer. And don't take John 16:13 out of context and apply your dream to it, very bad exergesis.

It is time for what?

I believe I heard and saw all of this because God wanted me to. I also believe He wants me to tell others. When I first started telling this to people, I got a few strange looks and a few skeptical comments. I never thought I would receive the kind of cold, unbelieving and judgmental response that I am receiving today.

I hope that Christians will turn away from whatever is between them and the relationship that God wants to have with them. I believe it's time for Christians to come back to their true love. I have sensed very little Christian love from many of the replies to the message I bring.

May God bless you and increase you in love

 

[zone]

It's just natural for me to pray on my knees, or with hands lifted or sometimes prostrate. I believe we all have a personal relationship with the Father. I just thought it was odd that you totally ignored the subject mater and centered on something of absolutely no significance.

seeking God's Will and voice in Scripture as opposed to subjective experiences is "something of absolutely no significance"?

noooooo.....

 

[Bookends]

I believe I heard and saw all of this because God wanted me to. I also believe He wants me to tell others. When I first started telling this to people, I got a few strange looks and a few skeptical comments. I never thought I would receive the kind of cold, unbelieving and judgmental response that I am receiving today.

I hope that Christians will turn away from whatever is between them and the relationship that God wants to have with them. I believe it's time for Christians to come back to their true love. I have sensed very little Christian love from many of the replies to the message I bring.

May God bless you and increase you in love

Please don't try to read feeling to posts, nothing was directed at you personally but at what you said and claim. But what some of us are saying is that dreams and visions are not always reliable. Your message is good, we need as a corporate body come closer to God, a revival and the the unsaved needs to hear the message of the gospel. If you are not willing to take what I believe as truth, so be it. Don't expect others to believe you as well, especially when you interpret scripture according to your dream and not the context in which the scripture was found.

May God's peace and love fill you and all !

 

[RickyZ]

When I study, I often surround myself with a bunch of Bibles and references and read till my eyes bleed. Then I close my eyes, and the books, and pray Lord make it all gel. Yeah what it gels into should definately be re-checked with scripture, but understanding and learning doesn't necessarily need an open page in front of you.

I tend to think CD's vision was a private one; Words for public consumption generally come with a tongue and interpretation. Ie it takes two, plus leadership. That's not to say CD would be barred from sharing his vision, and it's message, but it should be presented as his vison and not one for the people directly.

CD, ya can't post something up for comment like that and then get snippy with those who don't just bow and worship your proclamaition. It's not your message, that I know is true enough, it's the presentation. I've found the community here to be pretty good at discernment and if they tell me I need to rethink something I rethink it. It doesn't always change my mind, but in some important cases it has. (Thanks guys btw)

 

[MaggieMye]

Dreams are metaphorical, unlike visions which are literal in meaning.
Your dream: I saw Jesus in the sky. He was pure gold from head to foot. His face was too bright to look upon. There were green flames shooting out from Him in every direction. He shouted in a voice so loud it should have waken everyone in Muskogee. The words He spoke were in a language foreign to me.
You are given a physical rendition of the PURITY of the Lord which brings growth and prosperity (spiritual) to all (as it is shooting out in every direction). You see that with patience, comes understanding of His Word.
The dream was given to encourage you to keep pursuing Him so that you can gain greater revelation of who He is and to grow as you emulate Him. "Come, it is time!!"


Great stuff!

Maggie

 

[zone]

Dreams are metaphorical, unlike visions which are literal in meaning.
Your dream: I saw Jesus in the sky. He was pure gold from head to foot. His face was too bright to look upon. There were green flames shooting out from Him in every direction. He shouted in a voice so loud it should have waken everyone in Muskogee. The words He spoke were in a language foreign to me.
You are given a physical rendition of the PURITY of the Lord which brings growth and prosperity (spiritual) to all (as it is shooting out in every direction). You see that with patience, comes understanding of His Word.
The dream was given to encourage you to keep pursuing Him so that you can gain greater revelation of who He is and to grow as you emulate Him. "Come, it is time!!"


Great stuff!

Maggie

are interpreters allowed to get it wrong maggie.
is it like modern prophecy that is permitted a fail rate....

"come my people, it is time!"

come on.....why cant we just read what God already said.
too boring maybe.

 

[Cobus]

CDavid, All visions, dreams and Scripture Revelations are for us to understand what God's Word is preaching. And once we as faithful scholars do the WHOLE coarse and pass God's Examn, then we want to share it with the World and we find they do not accept it.

God's Truth is NOT FOR THE WORLD. Jesus said to His disciples.... There are many things I still want to tell you but you CANNOT BEAR IT YET.... We all get to thatstage where we know some, but not all YET. that is when we need TEACHINGS from GOD! We might get it in LIFE experience, or in a dream or in a vision, or in a prophecy, or just reading the Bible. But even these "good" Bible students that likes to show how they study the Word, still has a lot to learn, Like me!

I know after similar experiences you just had that some scripture just makes PERFECT sence. I would wake up and KNOW God a little more! And that is GREAT! God said everlasting life is" TO KNOW GOD AND THE ONE HE SENT!" Who is the One He sent? Hey you bright Biblestudents help me and David out here.... WHO IS THE ONE GOD SENT? The One we need to KNOW to have ETERNAL LIFE?

Please answer this question all Bible professors.... Who is the ONE God sent we should know? Give a Name! And you better be right, or stand ASHAMED that you thought you knew! I want a NAME! and WHO IS IT WE SHOULD KNOW?

David stand close and see! And see how much they KNOW HIM!

 

[loveme1]

Isaiah 55

1Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
2Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

3Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

4Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.

5Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.

6Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

7Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

8For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

9For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

10For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:

11So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

12For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.

13Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.

Isaiah 56

Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.

3Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.

4For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;

5Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.

6Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

7Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

8The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.

9All ye beasts of the field, come to devour, yea, all ye beasts in the forest.

10His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.

11Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.

12Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.

 

[Bookends]

God's Truth is NOT FOR THE WORLD.

16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

The message of Immanuel is clear, and it is for everybody...Just not everyone will repent and believe.

 

[Bookends]

But even these "good" Bible students that likes to show how they study the Word, still has a lot to learn, Like me!

I'm so glad we agree here!

I'm a bible student for life.

 

[zone]

CDavid, All visions, dreams and Scripture Revelations are for us to understand what God's Word is preaching. And once we as faithful scholars do the WHOLE coarse and pass God's Examn, then we want to share it with the World and we find they do not accept it.

God's Truth is NOT FOR THE WORLD. Jesus said to His disciples.... There are many things I still want to tell you but you CANNOT BEAR IT YET.... We all get to thatstage where we know some, but not all YET. that is when we need TEACHINGS from GOD! We might get it in LIFE experience, or in a dream or in a vision, or in a prophecy, or just reading the Bible. But even these "good" Bible students that likes to show how they study the Word, still has a lot to learn, Like me!

I know after similar experiences you just had that some scripture just makes PERFECT sence. I would wake up and KNOW God a little more! And that is GREAT! God said everlasting life is" TO KNOW GOD AND THE ONE HE SENT!" Who is the One He sent? Hey you bright Biblestudents help me and David out here.... WHO IS THE ONE GOD SENT? The One we need to KNOW to have ETERNAL LIFE?

Please answer this question all Bible professors.... Who is the ONE God sent we should know? Give a Name! And you better be right, or stand ASHAMED that you thought you knew! I want a NAME! and WHO IS IT WE SHOULD KNOW?

David stand close and see! And see how much they KNOW HIM!

oh right Cobus.
i need a dream to know Jesus
chapter & verse please?
what if the Jesus in my dream doesn't match the one in yours?
no, i'm not accepting anybody's dream over scripture...including my own.

John 17:17
Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.

Deuteronomy 29:29
The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.

Luke 24:25
He said to them, "How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken!

Luke 24:27
And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.

John 18:20
Jesus answered him, “I have spoken openly to the world. I have always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where all Jews come together. I have said nothing in secret.

John 8:26
"I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world."

John 18:21
Why question me? Ask those who heard me. Surely they know what I said."

~

Peter saw the Lord and Moses and Elijah.
He heard God's voice.

but what did he say we have and should rely on even more?

2 Peter 1
Prophecy of Scripture
12So I will always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you now have. 13I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body, 14because I know that I will soon put it aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me. 15And I will make every effort to see that after my departure you will always be able to remember these things.

16We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17For he received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”a 18We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.

19And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. 20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation. 21For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

 

[CDavid]

When I study, I often surround myself with a bunch of Bibles and references and read till my eyes bleed. Then I close my eyes, and the books, and pray Lord make it all gel. Yeah what it gels into should definately be re-checked with scripture, but understanding and learning doesn't necessarily need an open page in front of you.

I tend to think CD's vision was a private one; Words for public consumption generally come with a tongue and interpretation. Ie it takes two, plus leadership. That's not to say CD would be barred from sharing his vision, and it's message, but it should be presented as his vison and not one for the people directly.

CD, ya can't post something up for comment like that and then get snippy with those who don't just bow and worship your proclamaition. It's not your message, that I know is true enough, it's the presentation. I've found the community here to be pretty good at discernment and if they tell me I need to rethink something I rethink it. It doesn't always change my mind, but in some important cases it has. (Thanks guys btw)

If I've been snippy in any way, I thank you for pointing it out, and hope you will provide examples, of my snippy comments. I am some times unaware of my own sins, and am in need of correction. If examples are provided, I can use them as a learning tool.

But, I have kept this to myself for the past seven years. I promised the Father I would share this experience; that I would not keep it private, and have failed Him for too long in keeping this promise.

At any rate, I have evidently offended members of this forum with my testimony of truth. This was never my intent. I hope any awkwardness on my part is forgiven by forum members, I know it is by God.

Never the less, God expects me to keep my promise. So, I will continue to share my dream/vision.
"Come my people! It's time!"

May God our Father and our Lord Jesus Bless you all

 

[Ariel82]

Your comment is duly disregarded.

snippety....(just cuz you asked for examples)

 

[Cobus]

I just love it when the Queen of misunderstanding, Zoney, puts words out that I never said.... I have NEVER said we NEED dreams to know Jesus, but GOD communicate in dreams as real as HE DOES IN REVELATIONS, or visions.... I wonder what would have happened if Joseph told ZONEY that he heard God speak to him in a dream and told him to get out of the town, for the babies will be killed....

You wanted scripture if God talks to us in dreams and visions? ...Here you go...
Acts 2:17... And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God,........ and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

I wonder if these visions and dreams is about fancy cars or heavenly stuff? And if I do get a vision, would I know God a little better after the vision, or dream? I KNOW I do, but then I suppose God can reveal it in me when I am awake, or in life experience, but HE WILL DO AS HE WILL! I cannot tell Him what or how to TEACH me, He does AS HE WILL!

Is God's Truth for the WORLD? ... Look what is said in the Bible.... John 14:17...
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him:
No more discussion from me, I do not like to repeat.... It is arguing and I will not argue about God's Truth, No NEED for that. You either agree or not, up to you. I did not write the Bible, I only believe HIM!

I wonder why Jesus did not pray for the WORLD in John 17, I wonder why HE DID NOT PRAY FOR THEM? Look what Jesus said....
I pray for them that thou hast given me, and for those that will believe in their words.... He did not say HE prayed for those that would argue with others for HIS NAME, I do not have to answer you, but for the benefit of the readers I would show that the WORLD cannot receive the Spirit of Truth.... CANNOT, because.... they do not see or know HIM! And I suspect it is because they love their life in sin more than they love God's Truth!

 

[Ariel82]

I then laid down to sleep. Shortly after closing my eyes, I saw Jesus in the sky. He was pure gold from head to foot. His face was too bright to look upon. There were green flames shooting out from Him in every direction. He shouted in a voice so loud it should have waken everyone in Muskogee. The words He spoke were in a language foreign to me. Immediately, I opened my eyes. My entire body was shaking for several seconds. I then sat up on the edge of the bed, rubbing my eyes I said; "Wow what a dream". I then looked at the clock and noticed that only a few minutes had passed sense I first laid down; (not enough time to have fallen asleep.) Then I ask, "What did He say?" And instantly, even though the language He spoke was foreign to me, I knew.

He said; "Come my people. It's time!"

my first thought was that the only golden beings found in the Bible are idols made by human hands and covered in God. King Nebuchadnezzar was the golden head of the statue.

Jesus was the Rock unshaped by human hands.

"Come my people. It's time" sounds more like the call of Satan's armies to battle than God's

Revelation 20
7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea

2 Thessalonians 2
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He[d] who now restrains will do so until He[e] is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

seven years without speaking your "vision" and upon death's door, a last grasping?



did you ask your "jesus" what it was time for?



if you say preach the Gospel, it has been time for that since JESUS' ascension.



if you say it is time to do good works, it has always been time for that.


therefore, what was it time for seven years ago?

 

[psychomom]

Weel...okay, CDavid...what's it time for?

I'm pretty confused at this point.

 

[CDavid]

snippety....(just cuz you asked for examples)

So based your judgment, duly disregarding a cold, angry and judgmental comment is being snippety.
I guess I will have to duly disregard this example.

Thank you. If there's any others please let me know.

God bless you and increase you in all understanding

 

[Ariel82]

So based your judgment, duly disregarding a cold, angry and judgmental comment is being snippety.
I guess I will have to duly disregard this example.

Thank you. If there's any others please let me know.

God bless you and increase you in all understanding

nope if all you did was duly disregard it, then it wouldn't be snippety.

just the fact you had to announce you were doing so that makes it snippety.

however I'll leave you in your self righteousness... bye.

 

[CDavid]

Weel...okay, CDavid...what's it time for?

I'm pretty confused at this point.

Please take the time to read my new post "Come my people. It's time" It's all explained there.

Bless you for your interest. It is a message for all Gods people. It's nothing new. You have heard it before.

May God bless you in every way

 

[Abiding]

If I've been snippy in any way, I thank you for pointing it out, and hope you will provide examples, of my snippy comments. I am some times unaware of my own sins, and am in need of correction. If examples are provided, I can use them as a learning tool.

But, I have kept this to myself for the past seven years. I promised the Father I would share this experience; that I would not keep it private, and have failed Him for too long in keeping this promise.

At any rate, I have evidently offended members of this forum with my testimony of truth. This was never my intent. I hope any awkwardness on my part is forgiven by forum members, I know it is by God.

Never the less, God expects me to keep my promise. So, I will continue to share my dream/vision.
"Come my people! It's time!"

May God our Father and our Lord Jesus Bless you all

Im noticing this dream does not point to Jesus Christ, the Father, the gospel, but to you...the threads about you.
Well enjoy that.