i have a question about gay couples with children

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Misty77

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Reformedjason said:
If they have children, they need to split up and try to find a father for the children so they can be raised in a home like God intended. See how this sin messes things up?
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That's a bit hasty. I agree that any future relationship should be with the gender that the Lord intended them to be with. But just running out with the mindset "must find a man!!" isn't going to help anyone. Like any other single parent, any new relationship will need to be entered into with caution because another bad relationship is just going to make things worse.

You can find mentors that are willing to invest in your children through boy scouts, church, and other community groups. Don't try to crazy-glue a family together just because they have the corresponding genitalia.
 
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Heartsearcher said:
so god does not pprove of gay couples but there is a very real scenerio that i wonder about. say there is a lesbian couple who who have two children and this family is very close. but they become born again believers,what should they do? if they break up because god doesnt like it can they still both raise the children like before? or do they seperate and split up the family?
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A child doesn't really distinguish the way adults do. Two people who love him/her are two people who love him/her. That's what a child needs. They don't judge the way we do. They see the world for what it is. That's why Jesus loved the little ones.

'For the kingdom of God belongs to such as these'.

From the child's point of view, i don't think it would do him/her harm to grow up with two people who care about him/her. I can see worse households for a child to live in. An abusive one, for a start.
 
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If we go to God's word, marriage of the same sex is worse than just sin, it is putting together something that is against God in a fundamental way. The marriage of male and female, the becoming one of male and female has deep spiritual meaning, this immorality is more than just sin. Children must be protected from that.

Again, by God's word, there must be justice for all, so the well being of those children must be taken very seriously. To upset their stability of a home they know of would be cruel. If the only way to do that is for the couple to live together as friends, then that is what is required of them.
 
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RedTent said:
If we go to God's word, marriage of the same sex is worse than just sin, it is putting together something that is against God in a fundamental way. The marriage of male and female, the becoming one of male and female has deep spiritual meaning, this immorality is more than just sin. Children must be protected from that.

Again, by God's word, there must be justice for all, so the well being of those children must be taken very seriously. To upset their stability of a home they know of would be cruel. If the only way to do that is for the couple to live together as friends, then that is what is required of them.
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It is not worse than 'just sin'. I can think of things far more detrimental to a child's health than two carers who are the same sex and happen to share a bed. How about rape, molestation, cruelty, beatings, verbal abuse, domestic violence, substance abuse, alcoholism, neglect etc etc.

Children aren't being harmed by it anymore than the knowledge that people DO have same-sex relationships is harmful. They find out they have parents who are homosexual and they deal with it. That's what children are like. Perhaps they may become a more tolerant person for it.

It won't influence the child anymore than the moment the child discovers a homosexual relationship anywhere in his/her life. He, or she, will make their own decision and have their own sexuality.

Kids from same sex homes have no discernible disadvantages in health, social skills, self esteem or emotional regulation. They actually seem to be more physically healthy than kids in straight relationships.

The USA, in general, just seem to have a really big issue with this PARTICULAR sin. If it were a kid being brought up in an unmarried straight home, that's not so bad. Or a kid being verbally abused or treated badly, well it's not so bad, pray and it'll be fine. But a kid with same sex carers, it's like the child is being beaten and tortured.

I'm not saying it's inherently natural for two people of the same sex to be parents, but I can think of much, much worse people to look after him or her. Much worse.

I'd rather a kid in a stable gay home full of nurturing and affection, than an Irish convent, for instance.
 
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Jhana said:
It is not worse than 'just sin'. I can think of things far more detrimental to a child's health than two carers who are the same sex and happen to share a bed. How about rape, molestation, cruelty, beatings, verbal abuse, domestic violence, substance abuse, alcoholism, neglect etc etc.

Children aren't being harmed by it anymore than the knowledge that people DO have same-sex relationships is harmful. They find out they have parents who are homosexual and they deal with it. That's what children are like. Perhaps they may become a more tolerant person for it.

It won't influence the child anymore than the moment the child discovers a homosexual relationship anywhere in his/her life. He, or she, will make their own decision and have their own sexuality.

Kids from same sex homes have no discernible disadvantages in health, social skills, self esteem or emotional regulation. They actually seem to be more physically healthy than kids in straight relationships.

The USA, in general, just seem to have a really big issue with this PARTICULAR sin. If it were a kid being brought up in an unmarried straight home, that's not so bad. Or a kid being verbally abused or treated badly, well it's not so bad, pray and it'll be fine. But a kid with same sex carers, it's like the child is being beaten and tortured.

I'm not saying it's inherently natural for two people of the same sex to be parents, but I can think of much, much worse people to look after him or her. Much worse.

I'd rather a kid in a stable gay home full of nurturing and affection, than an Irish convent, for instance.
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I am not talking of the common sense of man, I am talking of how God sees us, and of the spiritual world. In the spiritual sense, the uniting of man and woman in marriage, and understanding the spiritual part of that is beyond what you are talking about. When same sex try to unite in the same way, in God's eyes it is very serious and beyond what you are saying, beyond your judgments of this. When we interfere with the spiritual world, when we won't listen to our creator and say we know better, it has terrible results.

And yes, in the spiritual world, God also sees the need of a stable home for a child. I agree, it would be terrible to tear a child's world apart. That is what happened to my world when I was six, it still hurts and I'm 88. These people have a responsibility to see to the emotional stability of a home for these children.
 
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