I needs some help with the "Antichrist" prophecies.

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Why is Obama not the Antichrist?

1. He is not the little horn of Dan 7, who comes from the fourth beast, which was broken and then reformed. Rome)

2. He is not the leader who comes out of the reformed roman empire of daniel 9, of the people who destroy the sanctuary and city, Obama also has no power over the world, in which he can make peace, He can not even make peace in his own country, He has his own country divided to the point that if things do not change, his country will suffer the same fate of rome

3. He is not powerfull. Rev says he will have such great power. all the world will ask who is able to overcome him. The world is so little scared of the US and her great power they take planes and fly them into buildings. They take children and woman and strap bombs to them so they can kill us.

4. America is evidently powerless in the end times prophesies, it is evident by the fact she is not mentioned even once as a powerful gentile nation (only 4 are mentioned) thus no American leader would be used by Satan to do the things we are told this "man of sin" is capable of doing.

I could go on and on and on. but this thinking obama is the man is no different then when I was growing up and it was gobachov, the man with the scar on his head. it is nuts!
Well can we at least agree he takes too much time off:)
 
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Elizabeth: I believe you may find a clue in Isaiah 30:25-31 and Micah 5...

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Elizabeth619

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Hi Elizabeth,

I think what your asking for is nearly impossible. It will be impossible to not generate an argument. Also dont you want this information for the sake of winning an argument ? : )

I could probabaly help you with this but you would need to be much more specific as to why he believes that ? You would have to address what is most influencing his ideaology. If you ask me someone who believes Obama is "the anti christ" might need medicine not reasoning. lol
Ok... uhhh.. winning an argument. No. That is not the reason for this. I would like for him to be properly educated on this, and not believe a lie and be totally mislead. Even believing a conspiracy theory can put a persons soul in jeopardy. That is why I am doing this. .
 

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Could you ask any easier question than this? This is low hanging fruit. And anyone replying to this looking for a debate, I'm not replying back. I'm set in my ways, and don't need to get in any tar baby debates with message board folks on this topic.

Beth, key in on the words I put in BIG.

1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, 2 who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw. 3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.

Ok, Beth.

Revelation was written before 100 AD.

President Obama became president in 2008 AD.

There is nothing shortly or near about an anti-Christ arising almost 2000 years later.

Now he may offer some semantic ways around shortly and near.
Just ask him, well if God meant to say literally shortly and near, how else would he have said it, other than by using these words so close by each other!?!

I'm sure your friend is all about a "literal" interpretation of Revelation.
If he is, then he's pretty much stuck with taking short and near, as short and near.

And again, you message board tar baby debaters, I'm not replying back.
I believe what I believe, so no need gettin stuck in your tar by engaging.

I bid you adieu.
OHHHHH how I have missed you!
 

Elizabeth619

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First, the antichrist doesn't come from America.
Second, America is done away with(as a nation), before the antichrist hits the seen.
Truthfully Elizabeth, if I could give you a word of advice..........
If your boyfriend will not relent......if he insists that Obama is the antichrist at all costs.....maybe you should let him go.\
Because if he is so headstrong about this; how unwilling do you think he will be about other things?
All I'm saying is gauge it and mark how headstrong he is.
You don't want to enter into the rest of your life with an 'emperor' of ideas.
Hopefully he relents and you all live happily ever after.
Did I ask for relationship advice?
 

Elizabeth619

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Thank you everyone for your input. It has helped, and he is actually "looking in to it".

Also, to those that felt the need to inform me that I should just "let him go".... no offense, but that was nhat this thread was about, and was rather uncalled for to even mention.

When I want relationship advice I will not ask for it in the bible forums.
 
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Did I ask for relationship advice?
well yes... you kinda did! Your original post about the "anti-christ dilemma", did not require the specific details about this person being your boyfriend. You are a member of the "Body of Christ", aren't you? Be glad the Holy Spirit inspires some to see beyond the surface of your problem and to speak into your life in a way that could help you avert future disaster.
 

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well yes... you kinda did! Your original post about the "anti-christ dilemma", did not require the specific details about this person being your boyfriend. You are a member of the "Body of Christ", aren't you? Be glad the Holy Spirit inspires some to see beyond the surface of your problem and to speak into your life in a way that could help you avert future disaster.
With al due respect I do not believe it is your place as a total stranger to give me advice or input on my personal life. Especially since you know nothing of my situation other than dating someone who differs in an opinion with me.
 

Elizabeth619

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Because the bible doesn't apply to your personal life????
Pardon me, the bible DISCUSSION forum.
This place is about bible study. There are other forums on this site that pertain to relationships and advice. This particular part of the site is not about that.
 
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BarlyGurl

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With al due respect I do not believe it is your place as a total stranger to give me advice or input on my personal life. Especially since you know nothing of my situation other than dating someone who differs in an opinion with me.
Well...hmmmm... best I can offer you... is if you don't want anyone to notice your dirty laundry... don't air it in public.
 

Elizabeth619

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Well...hmmmm... best I can offer you... is if you don't want anyone to notice your dirty laundry... don't air it in public.
Yes, thanks. Telling people that I am dating a guy who thinks the antichris is Obama is airing dirty laundry.
Asking for friendly input FROM THE BIBLE about the antichrist is airing dirty landry.

I do believe you are the one who felt the need to target a subject that was not part of the original post.

It doesn't matter if the person that I was talking about is a significant other, friend or relative. I would still ask for advice.

Like I said. If I want advice on a relationship I would post it in the singles forum. Not here.

Have a good night.
 

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Forgive me all and Forgive me Lord!
 
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as long as the two believe in the same gospel. who cares if they disagree on other issues not pertaining to salvation. Thinking obama is the antichrist would be dangerous. but should not cause her to stop seeing him. this is not how christians should act!
 

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Yes, thanks. Telling people that I am dating a guy who thinks the antichris is Obama is airing dirty laundry.
Asking for friendly input FROM THE BIBLE about the antichrist is airing dirty landry.

I do believe you are the one who felt the need to target a subject that was not part of the original post.

It doesn't matter if the person that I was talking about is a significant other, friend or relative. I would still ask for advice.

Like I said. If I want advice on a relationship I would post it in the singles forum. Not here.

Have a good night.
bethy
i doubt your guy has dirty laundry anyway.
i just saw him in the detergent aisle - i can see how much he loves you:)




you're a wonderful lady, he has much to



even though he might think Mr. Hope&Change is the bad guy, your guy is prolly



carry on Beth. turn the



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never mind other's




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BarlyGurl

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Yes, thanks. Telling people that I am dating a guy who thinks the antichris is Obama is airing dirty laundry. I didn't say that... and I DO take issue that you are accusing me of such.
Asking for friendly input FROM THE BIBLE about the antichrist is airing dirty landry. NOR did I say this[/COLOR]

I do believe you are the one who felt the need to target a subject that was not part of the original post. FALSE AGAIN

It doesn't matter if the person that I was talking about is a significant other, friend or relative. I would still ask for advice. Sure... all boxed up nice and pretty... some readers get it... loud and clear... TY.
 
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webchatter

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Well your boyfriend is lucky to have you. You care about what he believes. At first I thought this was a crazy idea that Obama might be the antichrist, & I still don't think he is. However, Scripturally speaking, forget the future events, but obama meets almost all of the other requirements. This will setlle IT:
ASK YOUR BOYFRIEND IF HE THINKS OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII.
If he was born in Hawaii, then he does not fit Scripture thus far.
If he was born in Africa, as the African govt says he was, then he could be the antichrist. But then so does any male born in the east, who pretends to like women but really doesn't, (there was a book & a man claiming to be obama's lover), he's tall, powerful, speaks well, & he is not a Christian but pretends to be. Time will tell. Henry Kissinger said on PBS that , "We want Obama to head the New World Order." That flipped me out when I saw that on tv. But I don't think it will be any one so prominent. They will come up fast. That's where Obama can't fit in, in the future.Rev.13:3. The world already wonders after Obama. They shout, "saviour, saviour" now about him. So he would have to go on a long cvacation, stay off the talk shows, & then come back into the political arena. Have you seen the preacher that claims Obama is the false prophet & Oprah is the antichrist? lol. He also says Oprah started a new age church & Obama is a member. What's Obama's real name add up to? Tell your boyfriend if he doesn't keep an open mind about it, he mihht not believe it when the real one comes along. sweet. good luck.
 
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Has anyone checked out the you tube explanation of Obama's name. Apparently in aramaic it translates to "lightening from the heavens". Jesus stated he saw Satan as lightening from the heavens. You'll have the check the verse and the video. For now the US remains an Obama_nation. I'm not saying he is the antichrist but I wouldn't trust him. No offense to patriots, just playing with words.
 

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Well your boyfriend is lucky to have you. You care about what he believes. At first I thought this was a crazy idea that Obama might be the antichrist, & I still don't think he is. However, Scripturally speaking, forget the future events, but obama meets almost all of the other requirements. This will setlle IT:
ASK YOUR BOYFRIEND IF HE THINKS OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII.
If he was born in Hawaii, then he does not fit Scripture thus far.
If he was born in Africa, as the African govt says he was, then he could be the antichrist. But then so does any male born in the east, who pretends to like women but really doesn't, (there was a book & a man claiming to be obama's lover), he's tall, powerful, speaks well, & he is not a Christian but pretends to be. Time will tell. Henry Kissinger said on PBS that , "We want Obama to head the New World Order." That flipped me out when I saw that on tv. But I don't think it will be any one so prominent. They will come up fast. That's where Obama can't fit in, in the future.Rev.13:3. The world already wonders after Obama. They shout, "saviour, saviour" now about him. So he would have to go on a long cvacation, stay off the talk shows, & then come back into the political arena. Have you seen the preacher that claims Obama is the false prophet & Oprah is the antichrist? lol. He also says Oprah started a new age church & Obama is a member. What's Obama's real name add up to? Tell your boyfriend if he doesn't keep an open mind about it, he mihht not believe it when the real one comes along. sweet. good luck.
He is highlu Republican as am I, but I do not believe every conspiracy theory about the guy.
The whole topic started out as a joke. Twinkies became extinct was a "sign"...Then we started talking seriously. He did say that he HOPES I am right.

I told him I would gather up all the info I could to calm his mind. So I thought why not come back here and ask for input from bible believers.

Thanks for your kind words and input. It is verymuch appreciated.