If the wages of sin is death and we die, do we not all still have sin?
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Proverb 4:14-19
14 Do not set foot on the path of the wicked or walk in the way of evil men. 15 Avoid it, do not travel on it; turn from it and go on your way. 16 For they cannot sleep till they do evil; they are robbed of slumber till they make someone fall. 17 They eat the bread of wickedness and drink the wine of violence. 18 The path of the righteous is like the first gleam of dawn, shining ever brighter till the full light of day. 19 But the way of the wicked is like deep darkness; they do not know what makes them stumble.
Matthew 12:33
"Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit.
Matthew 7:18-20
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death,....
Some are called the worker's of iniquity
Psalm 59:2
59:2 Deliver me from the workers of iniquity, and save me from bloody men.
Glory be to God alone.
14 Do not set foot on the path of the wicked or walk in the way of evil men. 15 Avoid it, do not travel on it; turn from it and go on your way. 16 For they cannot sleep till they do evil; they are robbed of slumber till they make someone fall. 17 They eat the bread of wickedness and drink the wine of violence. 18 The path of the righteous is like the first gleam of dawn, shining ever brighter till the full light of day. 19 But the way of the wicked is like deep darkness; they do not know what makes them stumble.
Matthew 12:33
"Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit.
Matthew 7:18-20
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death,....
Some are called the worker's of iniquity
Psalm 59:2
59:2 Deliver me from the workers of iniquity, and save me from bloody men.
Glory be to God alone.
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That's fine. I do not want to debate beliefs but to find out how not to collect on the wage of death, if sins are payed for. This is the work I want to do, and besides, whatever your beliefs are, is it better simply to give everyone what they need to truly live instead of going to war and dying to own the rights to sell things that no one can take with them?
Let us solve these issues saints!
Let us solve these issues saints!
Being born again you have been forgiven and cleansed from your sins, you have been made new and given a new nature declaring your spirit sinless. Your physical flesh may struggle to keep up with this but it is not within your new nature to sin, which is why this corrupt body needs to die so you can receive the new. You do not receive the wages for something your not.
Gosh i hope I explained that correctly lol
Gosh i hope I explained that correctly lol
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There are two kinds of resurrection. one of the righteous and the other one for the sinners. The righteous will be good in their life though they sin here and there. For that we have our advocate Jesus Christ
1Jn 2:1 . My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
But for the sinners they will be in the second resurrection category, and they will be resurrected in the flesh with the sin.they wnt resurrect spiritually because spiritual resurrection will be in power and glory. They have sin in them how will they resurrect that way. They will go through the lake of fire which is the cleansing part and they will also die physically ( leaving the body) to be like the righteous ones, who will be sinless and in spiritual body
1Jn 2:1 . My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
But for the sinners they will be in the second resurrection category, and they will be resurrected in the flesh with the sin.they wnt resurrect spiritually because spiritual resurrection will be in power and glory. They have sin in them how will they resurrect that way. They will go through the lake of fire which is the cleansing part and they will also die physically ( leaving the body) to be like the righteous ones, who will be sinless and in spiritual body
e veered off topic. I do not want to discuss how many deaths a man can die, but solutions to doing away with sin. I suggest that we take away the main object upon which sin is manifested.
I know you may say that this will happen upon Christ's return, but what are WE to do? We are told that the bride has made HERSELF ready. This is the process I believe in which those who hear the word, finally does it.
I know you may say that this will happen upon Christ's return, but what are WE to do? We are told that the bride has made HERSELF ready. This is the process I believe in which those who hear the word, finally does it.
I agree that it is the result of the renewal of the mind. But have we really done this? I find it hard simply because our Christ and saviour, the one that many believes to be God, is STILL paying rent, light, and gas bills. So to the world, Jesus is no different than Allah or any other name.
Abraham gave a tithe to someone greater than him who blessed him, but who does Jesus pay?
Abraham gave a tithe to someone greater than him who blessed him, but who does Jesus pay?
Gosh, last I checked Christ is the Lamb of God who took away our sin at the cross. There He died to sin and as believers we died being crucified with Him.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
The bible says that on the account two or three witnesses, a word or a thing is established. But I ask myself, if the living has hope (to live) but we know that we die, is not then our witness to that of death?
Indeed, my eyes see death established throughout the ends of the earth! We are losing!
My bible says that a man at his best state is altogether vanity. So if all then that we do is vain by reason of death, I asked myself; what profits a man who would work in word and deed to gain the world, and yet lose his life to the grave? What is missing?
I also read that a live dog is better than a dead lion. But both the lion and the dog dies! What I thought again, was needed for both to live?
So I figured that if to gain the world is to lose my soul, then to keep my soul is to lose the world.
I have had many opportunities to gain by the ways of the world. Still do if that is what I choose. But I do not want to lose my life by trying to save it (just believing in God, going to church, building a career to support my family, etc.). I want to find my life by losing these things. If I believe in what Christ said, then it is He who provides for me. If all is vanity (AKA we're all going to die anyway), then I will put this to the test!
If death is darkness and life is light and we die, then if our light contains with it also darkness, then that darkness is great indeed!
I pictured in my mind a light bulb surrounded by a box. I wondered how much darkness it would take to blot out that light in that box. I mean by all manner of reasoning there should be no darkness at all, right?
Indeed, my eyes see death established throughout the ends of the earth! We are losing!
My bible says that a man at his best state is altogether vanity. So if all then that we do is vain by reason of death, I asked myself; what profits a man who would work in word and deed to gain the world, and yet lose his life to the grave? What is missing?
I also read that a live dog is better than a dead lion. But both the lion and the dog dies! What I thought again, was needed for both to live?
So I figured that if to gain the world is to lose my soul, then to keep my soul is to lose the world.
I have had many opportunities to gain by the ways of the world. Still do if that is what I choose. But I do not want to lose my life by trying to save it (just believing in God, going to church, building a career to support my family, etc.). I want to find my life by losing these things. If I believe in what Christ said, then it is He who provides for me. If all is vanity (AKA we're all going to die anyway), then I will put this to the test!
If death is darkness and life is light and we die, then if our light contains with it also darkness, then that darkness is great indeed!
I pictured in my mind a light bulb surrounded by a box. I wondered how much darkness it would take to blot out that light in that box. I mean by all manner of reasoning there should be no darkness at all, right?
I thought to myself, how can I teach a man about Christ if that man speaks another language (tongue), or was raised in traditions different from myself?
How can I tell a man who has known 'Allah the most merciful' all of his life, that 'Christ is the way truth and life'? Would it not be but noise in his ear?
My eyes then looked to test this by the things I can see. I understood by what I saw that a man who only spoke chinese, could not understand one who spoke only arabian. Moreover, I could not understand either man, and they me by languages (tongues).
Then I observed that no matter how we expressed what we were taught by traditions, languages or cultures, they deal with the same basic vanity of life. Food, water, shelter, and clothing. In these things I find that we are one and the same. Not by the barriers of the tongue (language), but by the common spirit, which speaks for us.
So let us not show our faith by telling a man that 'Christ is the only way', let us show our faith by giving that man food, water, shelter, and clothing.
For freely we were given. Let us then give to receive of the whole!
How can I tell a man who has known 'Allah the most merciful' all of his life, that 'Christ is the way truth and life'? Would it not be but noise in his ear?
My eyes then looked to test this by the things I can see. I understood by what I saw that a man who only spoke chinese, could not understand one who spoke only arabian. Moreover, I could not understand either man, and they me by languages (tongues).
Then I observed that no matter how we expressed what we were taught by traditions, languages or cultures, they deal with the same basic vanity of life. Food, water, shelter, and clothing. In these things I find that we are one and the same. Not by the barriers of the tongue (language), but by the common spirit, which speaks for us.
So let us not show our faith by telling a man that 'Christ is the only way', let us show our faith by giving that man food, water, shelter, and clothing.
For freely we were given. Let us then give to receive of the whole!