If we're saved by faith
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Because we are not saved by faith alone. You need to do more than one thing to live physically (eat, breathe, drink water, etc), and you need to do more than one thing to live spirituality (repent, faith, confess, baptism, obedience, etc. All these things have scripture attaching them to salvation. Yet many people stick with just one of them (mostly faith) and claim that’s all that’s needed.
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Baptized by the HS, No mention of water there, Proven by what John said, whoever believes is not condemned, whoever does not believe is condemned already.
Plus, if believing and not being baptised would not save us, Jesus would have made that clear. He did not. Because he was not speaking of physical baptism.
Plus, if believing and not being baptised would not save us, Jesus would have made that clear. He did not. Because he was not speaking of physical baptism.
With all due respect, ‘the filth of the flesh’ is physical dirt (mud) not spiritual dirt (sin). Paul was explaining how being baptized is not like taking a bath. Baptism does wash away sins (spiritually). Because it is during baptism that God performs ‘circumcision of the heart’. (Col2:11,12) by cutting away sin from our heart (spiritually) with Christ’s blood.
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With all do respect that makes no sense whatsoever. Filth of the flesh was a representative term which means the sins of our flesh.
The only baptism that washes our sins is the baptism of the spirit performed by God. The spiritual circumcision of God spoken of in Colossians.
Water baptism no more washes your sins than circumcision did for the jews.
The only baptism that washes our sins is the baptism of the spirit performed by God. The spiritual circumcision of God spoken of in Colossians.
Water baptism no more washes your sins than circumcision did for the jews.
IF (big if) someone truly cannot be baptized, for whatever health reason you can come up with in a hypothetical situation, I imagine that God knows what's in their heart, and will be just to them.
Willingly refusing baptism is actually a refusal to follow Jesus' command.... I would not think that a person who is "saved" would willingly tell Jesus "I don't see it as necessary, so I'm not going to do it"....
Willingly refusing baptism is actually a refusal to follow Jesus' command.... I would not think that a person who is "saved" would willingly tell Jesus "I don't see it as necessary, so I'm not going to do it"....
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If baptism is necessary, then baptism is necessary. There is one gospel. Not many gospels.
Are you perfect? If not, You are wilfully refusing to do everything that jesus demands. WHat makes you more righteous than anyone else?
I agree, we should obey God and be baptised because he commands, it, But not to get saved, but because wer are saved, as peter said, as a good conscious, out of gratitude and love for God.
Are you perfect? If not, You are wilfully refusing to do everything that jesus demands. WHat makes you more righteous than anyone else?
I agree, we should obey God and be baptised because he commands, it, But not to get saved, but because wer are saved, as peter said, as a good conscious, out of gratitude and love for God.