Is God Happy?

mj007 · Nov 17, 2017

God is a singularity.

We as humans are a duality.

To understand God, can only be achieved through a singular mind.

But quite often what people do, is try to achieve it through a dualistic mind, which kind of defeats the object.

And to help things further, the God of the OT appears to be observed and understood through a dualistic mind. And so then people are taught through the Bible (if they take it as real and literal) to be dualistic, if they say well this God is in the Bible it must be how God is! These are some of the issues I have so far in studying the Bible.

But next time I see an enemy, maybe I'll be 'sure' God is sending them tumours for their family and kids, or that God is sending 'his' evil spirits. Yes, this is the type of God 'your mind' creates if your are dualistic, and indeed the minds of the OT. This accounts for so much evil, done in the name of religion.

How many 'perceived' enemies have you hoped God will 'punish' or 'torture' or even 'kill'?

God gets abused, just like people abuse each other.

God is love, that is my God. If your God is a sadist, maybe you are a sadist? If your God likes punishing the enemy, maybe you like punishing the enemy, or you are a warmonger? If you are waiting for God before you do anything, maybe you are a doomsayer? If you are angry at God, maybe you are angry at yourself?

Either we are born in the image of God (exactly what was Jesus like?), or, we ourselves give birth to our 'own image' of God, just like we give birth to our own self-image, and our façade. Or will you say that you do not have a façade?

Seedz · Nov 17, 2017

You are smart enough to understand the analogy without commenting on the details, I did mention it was a terrible analogy.

The point being is that God created everything, and allows everything, but turns you away if you do not live as the word says.

Basically it is very difficult to be saved, and very easy to burn for ever and ever and EVER.

Seedz · Nov 17, 2017

loveme1 said:

I do not have a better way, I just wish that most of humanity wouldn't go to hell.

Seedz · Nov 17, 2017

mj007 said:

God is a singularity.

We as humans are a duality.

To understand God, can only be achieved through a singular mind.

But quite often what people do, is try to achieve it through a dualistic mind, which kind of defeats the object.

And to help things further, the God of the OT appears to be observed and understood through a dualistic mind. And so then people are taught through the Bible (if they take it as real and literal) to be dualistic, if they say well this God is in the Bible it must be how God is! These are some of the issues I have so far in studying the Bible.

But next time I see an enemy, maybe I'll be 'sure' God is sending them tumours for their family and kids, or that God is sending 'his' evil spirits. Yes, this is the type of God 'your mind' creates if your are dualistic, and indeed the minds of the OT. This accounts for so much evil, done in the name of religion.

How many 'perceived' enemies have you hoped God will 'punish' or 'torture' or even 'kill'?

God gets abused, just like people abuse each other.

God is love, that is my God. If your God is a sadist, maybe you are a sadist? If your God likes punishing the enemy, maybe you like punishing the enemy, or you are a warmonger? If you are waiting for God before you do anything, maybe you are a doomsayer? If you are angry at God, maybe you are angry at yourself?

Either we are born in the image of God (exactly what was Jesus like?), or, we ourselves give birth to our 'own image' of God, just like we give birth to our own self-image, and our façade. Or will you say that you do not have a façade?

Based on the endless number of denominations and translations, I think each one of us has a version of God's image in their head.

There is no singularity, as it would be impossible to look at God from a single source/point of view.

mj007 · Nov 17, 2017

Yes the self-righteous should observe that it is very difficult, and rare to be saved.

But I don't know if you have noticed, all those rare saved ones just happen to be on this site! I mean is it a miracle? A whole bunch of them on this site?? But the question is, what if they are not saved and yet they don't know it? What does that make them?

What does it make a person who thinks they are saved and they are not? And they speak so confidently from a point of believing they are saved?

I know what it makes them, it makes them no different from the people who indirectly or directly crucified Jesus.

Seedz said:

notuptome · Nov 17, 2017

Perhaps you should ask if God is happy with you?

If you are not in the word seeking to please Him you will likely question what God desires.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Prov910 · Nov 17, 2017

Seedz said:

So do I! But it's their choice. :shrug:

Seedz · Nov 17, 2017

loveme1 said:

If we are created in the image of God then maybe questioning things is part of God's image?

Maybe I should just keep to myself. Did mean to offend you.

Seedz · Nov 17, 2017

Prov910 said:

Is it really their choice though?

NotmebutHim · Nov 17, 2017

loveme1 said:

Well, it doesn't sound as if the OP is becoming increasingly argumentative and hostile with his posts. It seems as if he is truly inquisitive about why God allows things to be the way they are. Therefore, I don't see the problem. As long as he is willing to listen, we need to be receptive to his questions, at least for now. Time will indeed tell us, I know.

$0.02

mj007 · Nov 17, 2017

Love is the singularity.

You can only understand and observe God through love.

Can you think of anything else which is singular?

Can you think of anything else, which intellects cannot decipher?

Can you think of anything else, which people find it hard to define?

And the list is an infinite, as the ideas of God are infinite.

Singularity, has no box or category, no beginning or end, no distinguishable form, is infinite, without conditions. And yet we have all experienced 'this mindset' at some point. God shows us many times throughout our life, although having spoken to people about it, often they rarely observed it. But think about it, think about that time, or that moment, when something was completely different about your mind. And it felt like complete freedom. Freedom from the chains of dualistic thinking.

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Magenta · Nov 17, 2017

Seedz said:

The fall of man and all creation occurred because Adam and Eve chose self will over the will of God (due to the pride of life, the lust of the eyes, and the lust of the flesh). Yes, God gave them a choice. They chose to put them selves on the throne. We still have that choice today: God's will, or our own? If you do not have a choice, you are not free to love. God desires those who worship Him in Spirit and in Truth, which comes out of our love for Him in acknowledging Who He is and what He has done for us. We love Him because He first loved us. He makes Himself known to those who diligently seek Him.

Some say that Adam and Eve were created perfect, but since we are perfected in Christ, that cannot be

They chose the forbidden tree of knowledge of good and evil over the Tree of Life (a type of Christ, for He is the true Vine, and we are the branches). There is much metaphor in Scripture, but that does not mean it is not to be understood on a literal level in many ways and places. The Bible is a telling of man's interactions with God, and God's plan for humanity, through the redemption offered via faith in Christ's propitiatory sacrifice on the cross, where He paid the sin debt. Through Jesus' resurrection to new life, those who repent of their rebellion in the flesh against God and accept this payment made due to His great love for us, we are able to be united with Him, being born of the Spirit. Those not born again die the second death, for the flesh counts for nothing, and their names will be blotted out of the Lamb's book of life. He is the giver of life. In Him we live and move and have our being.

Seedz · Nov 17, 2017

mj007 said:

Sigh....

Yes, I am sure every single account has a saved person behind it. Perfect. Let me go ahead and count them.

I guess we are all the same at the end of the day.

Seedz · Nov 17, 2017

mj007 said:

Love is the singularity.

You can only understand and observe God through love.

Can you think of anything else which is singular?

Can you think of anything else, which intellects cannot decipher?

Can you think of anything else, which people find it hard to define?

And the list is an infinite, as the ideas of God are infinite.

Singularity, has no box or category, no beginning or end, no distinguishable form, is infinite, without conditions. And yet we have all experienced 'this mindset' at some point. God shows us many times throughout our life, although having spoken to people about it, often they rarely observed it. But think about it, think about that time, or that moment, when something was completely different about your mind. And it felt like complete freedom. Freedom from the chains of dualistic thinking.

Aren't there different types of love though?

So not even love is singular.

pottersclay · Nov 17, 2017

Is God happy???? You bet he is. All that was required is done. Christ Jesus our Lord and savior has torn down the wall of separation, he's set the captives free. Given grace to the humble, fulfilled the law, conquered sin just to name a few things. Haven't you heard the good news saint? Messiah has come, and will come again. Be blessed be free be saved.

The ransom been paid for each soul all you need is believe. The king's kids can come home.........It is finished.
The chains are broken. The walls are tumbling. You bet he's happy, joyful, getting the house ready, the feast ready, he has waited far to long to wipe those tears away. To cast sin and death into the abyss.

Magenta · Nov 17, 2017

Seedz said:

God is love. He is singular, though known through many manifestions, most notably Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Seedz · Nov 17, 2017

NotmebutHim said:

Thank you! (Really though, thanks.)

Just looking for fellowship, not an internet war. If I cannot come with sincere questions then who can I talk to about this?

We all know it is difficult to bring these subjects up at church or with friends because then I can easily be labeled "Self rightgeous and a heretic"

Oh wait, I think that has already happened.

shrume · Nov 17, 2017

Seedz said:

Yes, it really is their choice.

1 Tim 2:
4) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2 Pet 3:
9) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Eze 33:
11) Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Seedz · Nov 17, 2017

pottersclay said:

Am I the only one that feels that "believing" isnt as black as white as most people think it is?

What can you say about someone that lives a whole life following the lord and has a bad week and ends up having an affair or gets hooked on meth?

Is he/she not a believer because they stumbled?

I hope you understand what I mean, I am not very articulate.

SovereignGrace · Nov 17, 2017

To answer the OP...

God is self-sufficient, self-existent, and does not need anything to be happy.

From the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith...

[h=2]Chapter 2: Of God and of the Holy Trinity[/h]
1._____The Lord our God is but one only living and true God; whose subsistence is in and of himself, infinite in being and perfection; whose essence cannot be comprehended by any but himself; a most pure spirit, invisible, without body, parts, or passions, who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; who is immutable, immense, eternal, incomprehensible, almighty, every way infinite, most holy, most wise, most free, most absolute; working all things according to the counsel of his own immutable and most righteous will for his own glory; most loving, gracious, merciful, long-suffering, abundant in goodness and truth, forgiving iniquity, transgression, and sin; the rewarder of them that diligently seek him, and withal most just and terrible in his judgments, hating all sin, and who will by no means clear the guilty.
( 1 Corinthians 8:4, 6; Deuteronomy 6:4; Jeremiah 10:10; Isaiah 48:12; Exodus 3:14; John 4:24; 1 Timothy 1:17; Deuteronomy 4:15, 16; Malachi 3:6; 1 Kings 8:27; Jeremiah 23:23; Psalms 90:2; Genesis 17:1; Isaiah 6:3;Psalms 115:3; Isaiah 46:10; Proverbs 16:4; Romans 11:36; Exodus 34:6, 7; Hebrews 11:6; Nehemiah 9:32, 33;Psalms 5:5, 6; Exodus 34:7; Nahum 1:2, 3 )

2._____God, having all life, glory, goodness, blessedness, in and of himself, is alone in and unto himself all-sufficient, not standing in need of any creature which he hath made, nor deriving any glory from them, but only manifesting his own glory in, by, unto, and upon them; he is the alone fountain of all being, of whom, through whom, and to whom are all things, and he hath most sovereign dominion over all creatures, to do by them, for them, or upon them, whatsoever himself pleaseth; in his sight all things are open and manifest, his knowledge is infinite, infallible, and independent upon the creature, so as nothing is to him contingent or uncertain; he is most holy in all his counsels, in all his works, and in all his commands; to him is due from angels and men, whatsoever worship, service, or obedience, as creatures they owe unto the Creator, and whatever he is further pleased to require of them.
( John 5:26; Psalms 148:13; Psalms 119:68; Job 22:2, 3; Romans 11:34-36; Daniel 4:25, 34, 35; Hebrews 4:13;Ezekiel 11:5; Acts 15:18; Psalms 145:17; Revelation 5:12-14 )

3._____ In this divine and infinite Being there are three subsistences, the Father, the Word or Son, and Holy Spirit, of one substance, power, and eternity, each having the whole divine essence, yet the essence undivided: the Father is of none, neither begotten nor proceeding; the Son is eternally begotten of the Father; the Holy Spirit proceeding from the Father and the Son; all infinite, without beginning, therefore but one God, who is not to be divided in nature and being, but distinguished by several peculiar relative properties and personal relations; which doctrine of the Trinity is the foundation of all our communion with God, and comfortable dependence on him.
( 1 John 5:7; Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14; Exodus 3:14; John 14:11; 1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:14,18;John 15:26; Galatians 4:6 )

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