Is man can loss his salvation?

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face2015

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Dear brethren,
i like to start the discuss on Salvation matter, Is man can loss his salvation?
is it possible to loss the salvation?
If that man is not saved, after backsliding is he loss his salvation
many many people not fallowing word and church after few days, what is their position?
without coming to church are they are with salvation?
if they felt in bad habits or sinful matters (sin) are they are still in salvation?
This is big subject please share with patience and with open hearts.
please come to discuss..God bless you all..
 
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Does this help?

For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 RSV
 
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Elijah23 said:
Does this help?

For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 RSV
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No, not really.
 
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I read that in John 3:16 the word 'believes' is one of those words that is constant, like it spans time, meaning if you stop "believes" you stop having eternal life.

I think you can lose your salvation. Look at the parable of the Prodigal Son.
 
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socperkins said:
I read that in John 3:16 the word 'believes' is one of those words that is constant, like it spans time, meaning if you stop "believes" you stop having eternal life.

I think you can lose your salvation. Look at the parable of the Prodigal Son.
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the Prodigal son does not teach that you can lose your salvation, the love of the FATHER which is salvation was always with the Prodigal son, l if not then when he was on the porch looking for His son hoping that this would be the day He saw his son coming back to the fellowship. then when he saw his son if the father's love was no longer there then he would have turned and locked all the possible way for the son to return , but He the father still loved the son and showed this love by running to the son embraces the son, rstoring him. there is another thread o this very issue Pickles has posted on the podigal son please find it and read it, it will be a blessing for you.
 
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face2015 said:
Dear brethren,
i like to start the discuss on Salvation matter, Is man can loss his salvation?
is it possible to loss the salvation?
If that man is not saved, after backsliding is he loss his salvation
many many people not fallowing word and church after few days, what is their position?
without coming to church are they are with salvation?
if they felt in bad habits or sinful matters (sin) are they are still in salvation?
This is big subject please share with patience and with open hearts.
please come to discuss..God bless you all..
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there is already another thread on this very topic , consider please scraping this one and just read all about it in the other thread , God bless. it is called once saved always saved
 
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I suspect there are people who think they get saved and then can kick back and take it easy for the rest of their life. Instead, I think we have the responsibility to love the Lord and love our neighbors during every moment of our existence.

What happens if you think you are saved but refuse to accept responsibility?
 
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face2015

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Yes, i am understanding your suggestions, thank you very much, i welcome your all suggestions..

here few people are desired to see my thoughts, and immediately i started to get your ideas. I know the fact, A Believer can not loss the salvation. In our country many many people are coming to Christ and going back to world, so i got a thought to listen some people voice, if they are with more knowledge than me. I desired to learn. If i am troubling you any one i am sorry. Please share your thoughts and all, i am printing your thoughts and translating to my mother tongue to give to all people.
I will read the other post also which is with this same subject, please let me know the title,
Thank you
 
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face2015 said:
Yes, i am understanding your suggestions, thank you very much, i welcome your all suggestions..

here few people are desired to see my thoughts, and immediately i started to get your ideas. I know the fact, A Believer can not loss the salvation. In our country many many people are coming to Christ and going back to world, so i got a thought to listen some people voice, if they are with more knowledge than me. I desired to learn. If i am troubling you any one i am sorry. Please share your thoughts and all, i am printing your thoughts and translating to my mother tongue to give to all people.
I will read the other post also which is with this same subject, please let me know the title,
Thank you
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"ONCE saved Always saved" is title of the other thread
 
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They will knock on the door and Jesus will say I never knew you. Luke warm and God throws you up. If you turn your back on God God will turn his back on you. People just have to repent. It's up tp God who goes to heaven. There are many people being taught wrong. They don't know they are being taught wrong. God is a forgiving God. The word says many will do all kinds of signs and wonders but in their heart they never loved God. God knows who really loves him and is doing his will. You see people on the site jumping down someones throat and their just plain mean. Wheres the love of God? Always makes me think they sure don't know God at all. God says to love. To forgive. For us to be the light. For us to be kind. God is cleaning house now and trying to get people to empty themselves of all the garbage they have inside of them. He is giving last chances for anyone to say God forgive me I am a sinner.
 
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Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
 
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Revelation 3:5 (New American Standard Bible)


5'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.
 
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MaggieMye said:
Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
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Exactly the fact that Jesus tells the overcomers that He will not blot their name out tells me that those that do not overcome will have their names blotted out showing us that one can loose their salvation, not to mention that it clearly says that He can and will blot others names out of the book of life in the last chapter of Revelation.

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

God WILL, not only can He but He WILL remove them from the book of life.
 
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Thaddeus I would encourage you to study some of the ways that osas doubters contradict themselves .For instance some of these so called great theologians teach that if you are decieved you will not come back as is taught in revelation but in complete opposition to this is taught that you can lose your salvation and get it back.Now both of these contradict each other and can not both be right to defend their losing salvation idea of scripture,so my question and one that all should ask is it cant be both ways.You cant lose it and not be able to get it back and get it back but Ive heard people who teach losing salvation agree with both stands ,they say you cant get your salvation back and you can.I am confused?
 
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I want to see some scripture that indicates when man is written in the book of life. Is it upon salvation or is all mankind in the book of life which means current living (because everyone is living now)and only blotted out upon a death with no acceptance of Christ or repentance of sins?I want to hear a more in depth study to be shown this more clearly through scripture.
 
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amen only God knows the heart and the true believers of whatever denomination(despite living imperfect lives) will persevere following Christ and growing in obedience and showing the fruits of the spirit and will be found blameless because of submission to the Holy Spirit working in them
 
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That is talking about a literal taking out of the passages that have been preservered and however you choose to interprit that it does not say misinterpit but take out .There are many examples of theologians that have literally taken out of the book of revelation and although you feel that the osas doctrine has it is (if you are correct) a misinterpritation.I see too much fruits of the spirit in believers that follow this for what you are saying to be true.Some of these people serve their whole lives in complete submission to God and you misinterprit it and say they arent of God and they are going to hell.That is truly a lie of the devil and one that I will not tollerate because Jesus said a kingdom cannot divide itself lest it cannot stand.When you see people being released from every sin in their lives(thats not the work of the devil)thats the work of God.If osas doctirne is wrong than those that follow will give an account for any negative things that have come from this part of the doctrine but will not be cast into hell as true followers of Christ.There bad works will be burned up and their good works will not burn but to come up with this conclusion is completely stereotyping every single follower and judging and condemning them with absoulutely no authority by Jesus Christ and you will stand before the judgement seat of Christ and give an account for doing so.You can study the scriptures all you want but you need to be aware of people and the fruits that they bear and the fruits you bear yourself .I encourage you to pray a very long time before making a reply to this and pray that what you say is truly spoken through the Holy Spirit and not of yourself,God bless
 
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MaggieMye said:
Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
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Hi MaggieMye, Good to see you. I hadnt seen you for a while or just missed you. Glad to see you here in the Lord.
God bless, pickles
 
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I read that in John 3:16 the word 'believes' is one of those words that is constant, like it spans time, meaning if you stop "believes" you stop having eternal life.

I think you can lose your salvation. Look at the parable of the Prodigal Son.
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Exactly. Great post. Simple, to the point, and very hard to disprove.

Whosover believes, not believed.

If a person can not believe, and still get saved, then that means anyone can be saved without faith in Christ.
 
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