Is man can loss his salvation?

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pickles

pickles

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I realize that all of us here will have differant opinions about salvation. The way I see it through scripture is that Jesus is the final decider.
So the simple answer here is not worrying about proving ones belief to another, but before Jesus being sure of what you believe before Jesus.
He has the final say.
God bless, pickles
 
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giantone

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If Jesus preached to His disciples about Hell and they couldn't loose there salvation, why did He preach to His disciples about Hell?

Jesus preached more about Hell then Heaven.

Matthew 7
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

Where do the people who hear the sayings of Jesus who don't do them go?
 
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watchmen

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Certain subjects are clear as day in scripture yet still heavily disputed, this is one of them. If we believe the New Testament including the writings of Paul are truly inspired by God, then we know that man can loose their salvation.
 
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shad

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giantone said:
If Jesus preached to His disciples about Hell and they couldn't loose there salvation, why did He preach to His disciples about Hell?

Jesus preached more about Hell then Heaven.
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Jesus did preach more about hell than He did about heaven. Then, He went to the cross, shed His precious blood and died for our sins, so that guys like you and me would not have to spend eternity in hell separated from Him. He preached about hell to the disciples so that they would have conviction and know it was a real place and to motivate them to preach the gospel to every creature. I do not believe that Jesus Christ spent a single moment thinking in His eternal redemptive mind that the salvation that He would give to sinners by grace could ever be lost, let alone something that He would take back from them.

What shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul (in hell) / Mk 8:36.
 
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greatkraw

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Elijah23 said:
I suspect there are people who think they get saved and then can kick back and take it easy for the rest of their life.
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That is why there is the 'sin unto death'. God is neither weak nor stupid. But he is powerful and consistent.
 
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jijo4u

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If he dies without any relation with Jesus, he can only reach heaven under condition of mercy.
 
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greatkraw

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Anything God does stays done or else he is not God.
 
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Peacefulcrusader

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Hi. I believe that a person can lose the salvation after coming to faith in Christ, but that can only happen by his own choice to leave Christ. Christ won't press people to leave, that's one of his promises. You can see it as a big company, where you're a worker and Christ is the boss. You can resign but you'll never get fired. One way - except just choosing to leave Jesus - to lose the salvation is by continuously working against God's (The Holy Spirit's) work/will in your life. If you refuse to follow God's directions again and again and again etc. eventually your heart may be so spiritually ruined that you lose the ability to seek God - and so will leave him. But if you make mistakes (sin) and feel a wish to repent (you're afraid since you sinned against God), I believe that God will always accept you back, since God is merciful against the humble (a promise).
 
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MightyLionOfJuda

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remember that God is the author and finisher of our faith.I have been down and out and thought I would never,ever come back to God but he continued to draw me back.I cant speak for anyone elses life but know what Ive experienced myself,God bless
 
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CIRBaptist

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watchmen said:
Certain subjects are clear as day in scripture yet still heavily disputed, this is one of them. If we believe the New Testament including the writings of Paul are truly inspired by God, then we know that man can loose their salvation.
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What??? Paul said Salvation was a "gift of God, it is NOT of ourselves'' and that "we are sealed by the Spirit unto the day of redemption"
 
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charisenexcelcis

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I have seen and studied the passages that favor both sides of this argument. I think that this is a matter of perspective. I believe that in the security of the believer and the free will of the believer. I think that the side that favors absolute security see things from the eternal perspective and those that believe in conditional security see it from the temporal side. This is an argument that will carry on until he comes. Then we will get it. In the meantime I will walk without fear, but will walk with a desire to please God, that in the end I will finish the race.
 
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