Is Smokig a Sin

[iwant2serve]

I posted this because I saw in other threads how many mentioned smoking as a sin. With all the responses there were some good things yet again the focus was on smoking and not all the other ways one can (as some said defile the temple). These things need to be thought about as well as the issue of smoking. Once again I do not advocate smoking, just noticed how many christians view it. By the way if Jesus was sittign accross from you would you be watching TV, listening to the radio, readign a book or anything else but conversating with him?

 

[kennethcadwell]

I posted this because I saw in other threads how many mentioned smoking as a sin. With all the responses there were some good things yet again the focus was on smoking and not all the other ways one can (as some said defile the temple). These things need to be thought about as well as the issue of smoking. Once again I do not advocate smoking, just noticed how many christians view it. By the way if Jesus was sittign accross from you would you be watching TV, listening to the radio, readign a book or anything else but conversating with him?

The thing is a lot of people go by that defile the temple scripture, the problem is they leave out the second half on how it says how we defile the temple.

It says not what goes into the mouth defiles the temple, it is what comes out. Lies, deceitful words, cursing, and so on.....
To understand the defiling it is not each individual, it is all of us believers combined. We are the church/temple of God, the church of our Lord made up of all believers.

Example: If you take and mislead another with false teaching, you have defiled the temple.

 

[JesusLives]

Well, I just flicked my Bic and then I read this. I agree that this is a struggle that may be best overcome by living one day at a time with the help of God. I don't have to quit for the rest of my life, I should just quit for today. I will choose not to smoke for the next 60 minutes to see if I even am strong enough to do this. I put out my smoke just now too. One hour at a time until the hours equal a day. It may be an equation that I can live with. Some things in life are not worth dying for.

Dear Father In Heaven

You know that I love this man and want him to be around a long time, so I am asking that you send mighty angels his way to fight off the evil forces that will certainly try and encourage him to continue this habit that is bad for his health. Tourist has given his life to you Father and I ask that you take away the desire to smoke from him that it would cause him to get sick if he took a puff off of another cigarette, please make this very distasteful for him and give Tourist Your strength to beat this habit. I thank you in Jesus might name Amen.

 

[Bookends]

You and I both know that lust and smoking are very different things dont try to turn my my answer into something like that.

LOL, gotta love yah Blain. So how would some put smoking above God? Can you give an example?

 

[Bookends]

I used to drive cabbies back in the '70's, and it was my job to pick up customers from bars such as that.

Sounds like a great opportunity to witness.

 

[Bookends]

I don't believe this is a question with a yes or no answer, as it involves things personal that go to the likes of what to eat or not eat. I've known and seen more very sincere Christians smoking, usually younger ones. I smoked when younger, hooked as a teen, yet while quite Christian, never once had thoughts of sinning against God or anybody. On the other hand, I had a consciousness of the stupidity and dirtiness of the habit, as public awareness was growing more and more, and, I suppose to some extent, sin, in that it was something of the flesh we weren't created to need, like food, water, or air which I didn't have dominion over. I also believe the Lord broke me of smoking. But to call it out as sin to others, when there are a zillion other things of the world drawing us from the mind of Christ or, such as diet, bad for health most all Christians allow, if anything, such issues should point out to all of us that there are none qualified to cast stones at somebody for smoking.

Remember, the woman caught in adultery even involved real, explicit, codified sin,

John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

Romans 14:22-23 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

We are all giving our opinions mostly, the question was asked, most of us aren't throwing stones but merely giving an answer. For me, smoking is a sin, God convicted me for it, it was strong. It was as if God said to me "what the heck are you doing James, your not addicted, so why smoke ( I was an occasional smoker). Is smoking a way to gratify oneself socially and physically? My wife still smokes, do I come down on her? No, I tell her I don't like it, but I don't constantly blast her for it. It is a waste of money, 6 dollars a pack, 4 or 5 packs a week adds up. We are already living pay check to pay check and this money could go towards paying off bills (college loans, mortgage, food, etc. etc.), Or better yet, it could be going towards feeding or helping others.

 

[Bookends]

Condolences. Been there done that too many times.

Whatsoever a man shall sow of that shall he reap.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Yes, but it doesn't only hurt them, but those who love them, emotionally and financially.

 

[Bookends]

So I take it then christians are to move out of the big smoggy cities on horseback.

Those where the days...

 

[Bookends]

Sometimes people cannot make drastic changes. We make some decisions that we cannot just jump out of. If one buys a home and has a job in a smoggy city, should they quit their job and just abandon their home? No, but wouldn't it be better to make some plans to change jobs and sell the home if possible?

On the other hand, are people locked into smoking, poor diet and a sedentary life? That is something anyone can change.

The idea that we cannot do better is a fatalistic outlook. It denies the opportunities one has to improve their lives.

Or you can just smoke two packs a day, eat a diet high in saturated fats and low in fiber, refuse to eat vegetables and fruits and just sit on the couch until you contract cancer, diabetes or have a heart attack.

I would pray that no place is void of Christian influence.

 

[Kaycie]

Yes- there is a warning right on the label that it is destructive and can cause death. The bible says our bodies are the temple of God. Smoking is rude- rude to yourself and to others- and 1 Corinthians 13:5 says that love is not rude. God is love- therefore smoking is not of God. It's not Godly, it's not holy, and I can't imagine Christ lighting up a ciggy and talking as it hangs out the side of His mouth. And yes, eating unhealthy foods can be just as bad to yourself- but it's not like smoke that other people are also forced to breathe in. But it still remains that sin is sin, but forcing your sin onto others (such as forcing them to breathe in your smoke) is another sin.

 

[Ella85]

Only if it is a smoking mosquito that is a pacifist HAHAHAHH!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

 

[crossnote]

Sounds like a great opportunity to witness.

Yesiree, sometimes I'm tempted to hop back in now that I'm retired from trucking.

 

[Radius]

The Bible says DO NOT be mastered by anything. If smoking has you addicted and is harming your body and has mastered you, you should probably quit.

 

[Jason0047]

That scripture from 1st John is taken out of context.
The scripture is speaking of those who have petitioned in prayer for forgiveness of their sins and are still doing them because of habit. Some sins are harder to stop right away then others, it takes time for some to completely stop what they are doing.
( Repent/turn away from that sin. )

Are you not cleansed of all unrighteousness if you confess your sins? (1 John 1:9). Is not all unrighteousness sin? (1 John 5:17). Was not the Tax Collector more justified for crying out to God than the Pharisee who was righteous and thought he was better than the Tax Collector? (Luke 18:9-14). In other words, a person is cleansed of their sins and forgiven if they confess of their sins to Jesus Christ. For whosever shall call upon the Lord shall be saved. Confessed sins are cleansed (1 John 1:9).

Nowhere does it say in the bible if you do this list of sins you will die for them, but if you do this list of sins you will.
The only sins that you do not die from ( second death ) is repented forgiven sins.
Our Lord Jesus makes this clear in Luke when He we makes a point that a small sin or large sin by how we look at them all lead to death unless you repent of them.

Not true.

Revelation 21:8
"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, the murderers, the fornicators, the sorcerers, the idolaters, and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.’

Romans 1:29-32
"Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT]Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

Luke 13:3
I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.

I believe true Biblical repentance will involve confessing of one's sins and in forsaking them.

 

[iwant2serve]

Yes- there is a warning right on the label that it is destructive and can cause death. The bible says our bodies are the temple of God. Smoking is rude- rude to yourself and to others- and 1 Corinthians 13:5 says that love is not rude. God is love- therefore smoking is not of God. It's not Godly, it's not holy, and I can't imagine Christ lighting up a ciggy and talking as it hangs out the side of His mouth. And yes, eating unhealthy foods can be just as bad to yourself- but it's not like smoke that other people are also forced to breathe in. But it still remains that sin is sin, but forcing your sin onto others (such as forcing them to breathe in your smoke) is another sin.

Well what about the people who feed their children junk for food? See point i I am trying to make is not that smoking is good, but we focus on one or two things about health and everything else is not a sin. If we are going to preach the body it the temple and use scripture to prove one thing is damaging then why not all of it. There are many other ways that a person can cause harm to their bodies and others but we skirt over them. I am trying to raise awareness to more that one focal point in health.

 

[mailmandan]

Smoking is a bad habit and it's not good for our body, but so are other things. I don't smoke, but I'm not going to judge those who do. I have no desire to smoke, but for people who do smoke it can be very addictive and a tough habit to break! I don't believe that smoking will keep believers from going to heaven, but it may get them there sooner, just as an unhealthy diet and lack of exercise may do the same.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

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I know this will spark a lot of WHAT is he crazy. Many times people point to the scripture that says Present your body a living sacrifice holy and acceptible to God Romans 12:1-2 when pointing out how smoking is a sin. I myself have not found a scripture that says it is a sin (I know there are many that says how we are suppose to live). I have heard people say things like how bad it smells (it does), would Jesus smoke, and how can you be a witness puffign in front of people. I am not trying to defend the use of smoking at all, however it is a issue that is called a sin because it can cause cancer and other things. Now here is the flip part to me at least. It one is going to talk about temple maintenance it is a whole not a part. Lack of sleep, not eating the right amounts of fruit and veggies, to much fatty meats, lack of exercise and fasting which is a natural cleanser. These issues are just as important because they can also cause sickness and damage to the body and according to Romans 12:1-2 that is also a sin. What do you think?

Romans 14:21-23

king james version(kjv)

[SUP]21.)[/SUP] [It is] good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor [any thing] whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
[SUP]
22.)[/SUP]Hast thou faith? have [it] to thyself before God. Happy [is] he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
[SUP]
23.)[/SUP] And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: for whatsoever [is] not of faith is sin.



If you have doubts,then you shouldn't be doing it,to you its sin.

 

[Jason0047]

whatever

Romans 14:21-23

king james version(kjv)

[SUP]21.)[/SUP] [It is] good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor [any thing] whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
[SUP]
22.)[/SUP]Hast thou faith? have [it] to thyself before God. Happy [is] he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
[SUP]
23.)[/SUP] And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: for whatsoever [is] not of faith is sin.



If you have doubts,then you shouldn't be doing it,to you its sin.

I doubt this would include substances like cocaine, etc.

People can die instantly from snorting it just once. Just as people can be sent to the ER because of second hand smoke exposure (Which is not loving towards one's neighbor).

I believe smoking is a drug and hurts you just like cocaine is a drug and can hurt you. Both of these things destroys the Temple of God. God says He is not happy if you destroy your Temple. He says He will destroy those who defile their Temple. Which is exactly what we see. People who smoke die of lung cancer, etc.

For him to knoweth to do good and he does it not, to him it is sin. People KNOW it is bad to smoke. They know the good thing to do is to quit. But they don't quit. They are refusing to do good which is sin to them. For NOBODY thinks smoking is good for them. Anyways, we can be rest assured that the sin of smoking is not a sin that leads unto (spiritual) death. Paul and John list those sins whereby a person will not inherit the Kingdom of God and or in them facing the second death (Which is the Lake of Fire) in various places within the New Testament.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I doubt this would include substances like cocaine, etc.

People can die instantly from snorting it just once. Just as people can be sent to the ER because of second hand smoke exposure (Which is not loving towards one's neighbor).

I believe smoking is a drug and hurts you just like cocaine is a drug and can hurt you. Both of these things destroys the Temple of God. God says He is not happy if you destroy your Temple. He says He will destroy those who defile their Temple. Which is exactly what we see. People who smoke die of lung cancer, etc.

For him to knoweth to do good and he does it not, to him it is sin. People KNOW it is bad to smoke. They know the good thing to do is to quit. But they don't quit. They are refusing to do good which is sin to them. For NOBODY thinks smoking is good for them. Anyways, we can be rest assured that the sin of smoking is not a sin that leads unto (spiritual) death. Paul and John list those sins whereby a person will not inherit the Kingdom of God and or in them facing the second death (Which is the Lake of Fire) in various places within the New Testament.

What about coffee?
The change took place in the spirit and sealed but we still have bodies that we need to renew and if we are doing something that harms our body then we would have a desire to correct it,but if you don't then in the body/flesh you will pay the consequence,but it doesn't mean you are not saved.