Is The Book of Revelation a False Prophecy?

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Ahwatukee

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Oh my. What has the majority of world's population done now to invite being decimated by God?
The above is a trick question, right? A better question would be, "what sins hasn't the majority of the world committed?"

This coming wrath has been prophesied as "the day of the Lord" by the prophets of old, as well as by the apostles. Every person who comes into the world is headed for condemning judgment. The only way to avoid that, is through faith in Jesus Christ. Therefore, anyone who was not saved and gathered when Christ appears, will find themselves in the time of God's wrath. Those who in that time period who continue to reject Christ, will suffer God's wrath which He will be pouring out upon the earth in the form of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, as well as through the plagues brought by the two witnesses.

I would suggest a thorough study of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, as well as the information in Daniel 2:31-45 to get a better idea of God's coming wrath.

In short, everyone during that time period will be exposed to God's wrath and because of sin and because they rejected God's offer of salvation through faith in His Son.
 

Ahwatukee

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It seems many people believe God will have to destroy most of the world at a future time so God can create a new world. Is this not a preconception of morality?
It's God's preconceived plan that He revealed to us.
 
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Oh sorry I thought birds in heaven meant angels.

Anyway, do you think Jesus will be able to literally conquer all nations with his words?
Yes, I do. Not all men, of course, but the vast majority that He has already determined will be His.
 
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Actually, we can say that it is true and that because we are seeing the prophecy for the mark of the beast taking shape. For the last couple of years, companies in Sweden and her sister countries have been implanting their employees with RFID chips under the skin of the hand, with one of its purposes to electronically make purchases, which would a testimony of the truth and accuracy of God's word. There are also companies now in the US following applying this same technology. Click on the links below. There are many other proofs of what is coming besides information regarding the coming mark.

Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

Company to install microchips in employees
Is transacting with money the mark of the beast?
 
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Is transacting with money the mark of the beast?
No biblically in the tribulation period one will have to take the mark of the beast to make transactions or die in honor of Jesus.
 

Ahwatukee

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Is transacting with money the mark of the beast?
Yes, it is and that via electronic crediting and debiting. For the scripture says "unless anyone had the mark, they would not be able to buy or sell. Buying and selling is crediting and debiting. This is why we have a system of crediting and debiting and why cash and checks are being phased out. Eventually you will be seeing people paying for things with a scan of their hand to credit and debit their accounts, which in fact is already happening. It is just a matter of time now.
 
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Is transacting with money the mark of the beast?
No, it was never what you pay with nor how you make the transaction (even Jesus paid His taxes with Caesar's very own minted money) It always was, and always will be, in what and in whom your allegiance and trust lies.
 

Nehemiah6

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Is transacting with money the mark of the beast?
Not at all. The Mark of the Beast is to make every human being subject to Satan and the Antichrist, and only then can they engage in commercial transactions.

Money has always been neutral, and was even being used by Israelites as the shekel. It is still neutral in that it is neither good nor evil of itself. It is the love of money that is the root of all evil, but Satan is going to try and corrupt all humanity for 3 1/2 years through the taking of the Mark. That Mark means that you are completely the servant and subject of Satan (through the Antichrist), and therefore those who take the Mark are damned eternally.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

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The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

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And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. (Rev 14:9-11)
 

Ahwatukee

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Not at all. The Mark of the Beast is to make every human being subject to Satan and the Antichrist, and only then can they engage in commercial transactions.
Hey Nehmiah6,

The mark will indeed be about buying and selling. Currently we have this electronic crediting and debiting system set up and the world is continually moving over to this system more and more, with cash and checks being phased out. Scripture states that the false prophet will "force" all both great and small, rich and poor, fee and slave to receive a mark in the right hand and except anyone had the mark no one would be able to buy or sell.

The way in which he is going to force the inhabitants of the world to receive it, is that at that time he will make all other methods of buying and selling obsolete, which is why those methods have been in the process of being phased out, leaving only that mark for people to be able to electronically credit and debit their bank accounts. The device of the mark is also going to replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps. and whatever else is being used.

Simply put, anyone who doesn't receive that mark will not be able electronically credit or debit their bank accounts. This will force people to make the decision to receive it and by receiving it they will be aligning themselves with the beast.

Therefore, the situation is not going to first worship the beast and then you will be able to receive the mark, but will be because receiving the mark will be the only method of performing electronic crediting and debiting and by receiving it will be one form of worshiping him. I also believe that the number of his name will be apart of that code within the device that ends up being the mark.

That coming mark is going to be that proverbial line being drawn in the sand.
 
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Ahwatukee

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No, it was never what you pay with nor how you make the transaction (even Jesus paid His taxes with Caesar's very own minted money) It always was, and always will be, in what and in whom your allegiance and trust lies.

Hello Willie,

It's not going to be about using paper or coinage Willie. It is going to be about electronic crediting and debiting (buying and selling), which is exactly why we are seeing cash and checks being phased out. Eventually, as the world moves towards the time of the beast, the mark will also replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps. leaving only that mark as the only way of electronically crediting and debiting ones bank account.

Because of this electronic crediting and debiting system, this is the only time in history where the scripture regarding the mark could be fulfilled, as it would not work with paper money or coinage. But it can and will work via the use of electronic crediting and debiting, with the mark as eventually being the only valid device to perform that. Anyone without the mark at that time will not be able be apart of the world system.
 

Ahwatukee

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No biblically in the tribulation period one will have to take the mark of the beast to make transactions or die in honor of Jesus.
I agree! It is by the receiving of the mark and thereby worship of the beast, that will be the ultimate rejection of God.
 
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No, it was never what you pay with nor how you make the transaction (even Jesus paid His taxes with Caesar's very own minted money) It always was, and always will be, in what and in whom your allegiance and trust lies.
I believe it is literal, and that satan will do this to us to make us dependent on him to provide for us, food, clothing, shelter. It is their way of instilling control over what God provides, and taking the mark itself will indeed represent where your allegiance and trust lies.

Will you trust in God to provide or lose your life for Him, or will you take the mark so you can go to walmart and eat? And it won't simply be just a stamp for transactions, there will be some kind of oath sworn you will have to consciously make or be aware of, like when we joined the military.
 
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Locutus

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Not at all - the false futurist narratives are the problem.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Oh my. What has the majority of world's population done now to invite being decimated by God?
Not one of us deserves to live.
I don't fancy your chances if you were planning on mounting an opposition to him.
 

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No.

If one hits a stumbling block at Revelation then what better way is there than to declare it false rather than consider one may be off base.

Genesis through to Revelation all consistent yet our perception and understanding can be wrong!

wisdom and understanding... a gift to be sought and treasured indeed.

A perfect plan by the Most High.

Trust and take refuge.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Is transacting with money the mark of the beast?
The Bible has a Middle Eastern outlook. How things are happening THERE gives us a better picture of unfolding prophecy than looking at it through the lens of (what we call) the first world. We are sheltered. For now. Though the globalists are trying hard to break us down.

The blueprint for identifying marks has already been established and practised for many years and it does involve finances yes.
 

Locutus

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Perhaps I shouldn't have said, "surprisingly", because I didn't know it for the first 60-some years of my life.
The problem was the narrative was taken over by dispensationalism especially when promoted by the Scofield bible which made the events of the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem in the war of 66 AD a blip in prophetic history rather than the terminus of old testament prophecy.