I've never been to a Messianic Jewish church that believes that. They like the Mosaic law for education. It is deemed as Spiritual food which I think is Biblical. I've been with them and other assemblies that are protestant. Lutheran, Catholic, etc. they all believe in Christ Jesus as the true Messiah. Different wrinkles of course and don't accept all of there doctrinal beliefs. The Bible, for the most part, that I like is the KJV. The reason I like it is because it makes me search. There are many things that I don't understand until I study and pray to find the truth. If it makes sense, and there are no further contradictions that I might find, I take it as truth.
Is the Hebrew Roots Movement a cult?
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And for those who are infatuated with the law but downplay Paul, remember Paul knew the Law inside/out more than anyone alive today but...
Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—
(Php 3:8-9)
Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—
(Php 3:8-9)
shiloah.
it's more complicated (and dangerous) than that.
people end up departing from the Christian faith altogether - converting to Judaism or these Noahide Laws (Talmudic).
there's plenty of documentation on it.
it starts out with a little of this here, and a little of that there.
i guess we should understand Judaism.
it's more complicated (and dangerous) than that.
people end up departing from the Christian faith altogether - converting to Judaism or these Noahide Laws (Talmudic).
there's plenty of documentation on it.
it starts out with a little of this here, and a little of that there.
i guess we should understand Judaism.
That's why the law is suppose to be seen as a Spiritual learning tool. Not justified by trying to keep it, but understanding through it, why we must be saved from being under it. The law is for the lawless, i.e. the carnal mind as Paul describes it being a chosen apostle and truly saved from being under it. After his conversion, he understood it’s value.
1 Timothy 1:9-11 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
[SUP]11 [/SUP]According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.
Romans 7:7-9 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
1 Corinthians 15:30-31 (KJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And why stand we in jeopardy every hour?
[SUP]31 [/SUP]I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
1 Timothy 1:9-11 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
[SUP]11 [/SUP]According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.
Romans 7:7-9 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
1 Corinthians 15:30-31 (KJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And why stand we in jeopardy every hour?
[SUP]31 [/SUP]I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
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yes, the Hebrew roots Movement is a cult.
made up of gentiles who think they're going to be pleasing (more saved
) to God by becoming jews.
in fact...they're departing from the faith delivered once for all.
made up of gentiles who think they're going to be pleasing (more saved
) to God by becoming jews.in fact...they're departing from the faith delivered once for all.
The accusations get very strange. That they are attempting to change their DNA to be Jewish? Their bible reads different from all others so it departs from the faith? Is that because they read all scripture and you don't? If that is the case I should think it is the non readers who depart. The things said about these people! One person intimated that they kill bulls for sacrifice! They are standing up to all of this, just as Jesus did, standing for Christ as their savior.
The more I read your talk, and look into what they stand for, the more I feel God is with them.
oh purleeze.
my little tiny church reads all of scripture.
every Sunday.
Old Testament readings, then Gospel readings and epistle readings.
we see JESUS.
i don't know what you see.
see recent Ten Lost tribes thread.
connect the dots.
research Khazars...claiming to be Israelites and they're not.
you figure it out.
or not...search out men and call them Rabbi if it makes you feel better.
cast bread on waters or wear prayer shawls if you think you're more spiritual.
a little here, a little there.
pretty soon claims are made that the Christian church is pagan...the Bible was originally in Hebrew; jews are the head....yak yak
they leave Christianity for Judaism.
they end up denying Jesus.
do your own homework or just act all innocent.
it won't stop me from posting what i know.
hmm.....interesting.
oh rly?
find that post if you would.
who is they?
Noahide Laws & Hebrew Roots
DiscoverHebrewRoots.com
"I thought someone might be interested in reading this exchange between a Christian missionary and a declared Noahide. This now practicing Noahide was once a Christian, according to the account.
Noahides and Hebrew Roots | Unsettled Christianity
yes i know.
you and i have nothing in common.
my little tiny church reads all of scripture.
every Sunday.
Old Testament readings, then Gospel readings and epistle readings.
we see JESUS.
i don't know what you see.
see recent Ten Lost tribes thread.
connect the dots.
research Khazars...claiming to be Israelites and they're not.
you figure it out.
or not...search out men and call them Rabbi if it makes you feel better.
cast bread on waters or wear prayer shawls if you think you're more spiritual.
a little here, a little there.
pretty soon claims are made that the Christian church is pagan...the Bible was originally in Hebrew; jews are the head....yak yak
they leave Christianity for Judaism.
they end up denying Jesus.
do your own homework or just act all innocent.
it won't stop me from posting what i know.
hmm.....interesting.
oh rly?
find that post if you would.
who is they?
Noahide Laws & Hebrew Roots
DiscoverHebrewRoots.com
"I thought someone might be interested in reading this exchange between a Christian missionary and a declared Noahide. This now practicing Noahide was once a Christian, according to the account.
Noahides and Hebrew Roots | Unsettled Christianity
yes i know.
you and i have nothing in common.
To Embrace Hebrew Roots: Part I
Introduction
Please note: Research into the Hebrew Roots & Messianic movements constitutes research into Judaism as well as the occult. We fully respect each persons right to believe or utilize what resources they choose. We however, see a clear distinction in believing the Messiah has come versus utilizing resources which still await His coming. That is how and why we must evaluate all to Christ and the New Testament as well as the Tenach. We do not wish to edit or criticize Judaism, but recognize it as distinct from our Christian beliefs, just as many in Judaism also see a distinction and separateness from our beliefs, and we jointly have mutual respect for our differences and each other.
There is a growing movement within Christianity, which contends that Christians need "to return to their Hebrew Roots." The leaders of this movement purport to be teaching believers the "Hebrew Roots of Christianity" through the study of the Jewish foundational teachings. Having been enjoined to study "Hebrew Roots", it is only reasonable that one must take a close look at the teachings of the Messianic and Hebrew Roots movements, as well as the Hebrew faith itself.
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Introduction
Please note: Research into the Hebrew Roots & Messianic movements constitutes research into Judaism as well as the occult. We fully respect each persons right to believe or utilize what resources they choose. We however, see a clear distinction in believing the Messiah has come versus utilizing resources which still await His coming. That is how and why we must evaluate all to Christ and the New Testament as well as the Tenach. We do not wish to edit or criticize Judaism, but recognize it as distinct from our Christian beliefs, just as many in Judaism also see a distinction and separateness from our beliefs, and we jointly have mutual respect for our differences and each other.
There is a growing movement within Christianity, which contends that Christians need "to return to their Hebrew Roots." The leaders of this movement purport to be teaching believers the "Hebrew Roots of Christianity" through the study of the Jewish foundational teachings. Having been enjoined to study "Hebrew Roots", it is only reasonable that one must take a close look at the teachings of the Messianic and Hebrew Roots movements, as well as the Hebrew faith itself.
cont......
cont.....
To Embrace Hebrew Roots: Part I
.....seems fitting, then, that we examine the teachings of prominent leaders such as Peter Michas of Messengers of Messiah, Avi ben Mordechai of Torah Talk & the B'ne Torah Movement; Jacob Prasch of Moriel, Larry Rowland of Messengers of Truth and James Trimm of the Society for the Advancement of Nazarene Judaism. We must consider these and the many groups linked to them which are advocating the Hebrew Roots cause. Not all of the individuals and groups mentioned are claiming connections to the Messianic or Hebrew Roots movement, and these distinctions will be noted.
For example, Avi ben Mordechai, a "Nazarene (messianic) halacha" teacher, as stated on his website, (www.millenium7000.com/halacha.htm) in the article Halacha, is very influential within the Hebrew Roots and Messianic leadership. Mr. Mordechai made this pronouncement in an email to Mr. Ed Tarkowski, dated May 8, 1998:
"…I am not a proponent of the "Jewish Roots" or "Hebraic Roots" movement as you or they define the terms. I am a proponent of Torah observance for both Jews and non-Jews which takes "Jewish Roots" information and engages it to become a lifestyle. In other words, it's not Jewish information that I'm teaching in and of itself; It's Jewish information with an associated lifestyle that I uphold…"
"I am an Orthodox Sephardic Jew. I believe fully in the written and oral Torah of Moshe and of Y'shua, hence the term, the "Mesorah of Y'shua HaMashiach." Furthermore, I am not connected to the Messianic movement which generally (and I say GENERALLY) only accepts the written Torah and usually rejects the oral Torah and then makes the written Torah optional equipment for the faith which is fully counter to Y'shua's and Sha'ul's teachings."
" Nor am I connected to the Christian church which outright rejects both the written and oral Torot as being replaced with new Mesorah (traditions) that also violate the very heart of Y'shua HaMashiach's teachings. Rather, I am connected to the B'ne Torah movement which is a fast-growing sect of Judaism that happens to believe that Y'shua is HaMashiach, Ben Elohim and our Mesorah perfectly lines up with Moshe, Y'shua, and Sha'ul in their teachings of the Torot, oral and written."
For More on Avi ben Mordechai see: Avi ben Mordechai & Millennium 7000
In promoting their cause, Hebrew Roots leaders give us many reasons why we must or should become involved. For example, Larry Rowland of Messengers of Truth believes that the Bible is a book about the Jewish people, and should be studied as such:
"…In order to correctly understand the Newer Testament, it is beneficial to have a working knowledge of the world from which it was birthed. Most of the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation was written by Jews, for Jews, about Jews, or with Jews in mind. Even the Gospel of Luke and part of the Book of Acts, while probably written by Gentiles, nonetheless addressed Jewish issues and concerns on behalf of an early Jewish Church."
" Today, a travesty is occurring within the body of Christian believers. The Church, as well as Christians themselves, have a lack of knowledge concerning their Jewish heritage. Without that knowledge, Christians are burning their bridges at an alarming rate. They have forgotten the foundation on which their faith was originally founded."
"Only the knowledge of our Hebraic Roots, will allow us, as Christians, to span the bridge of time linking yesterday to today; allowing us to understand the full richness of Scripture. Remember, what you miss, don't see or comprehend in Scripture you can't have and Yeshua's desire was that we, as believers in Him . . . have it all!"1.
We have always understood that the Bible was a revelation of God himself. It encompasses His unending love, mercy, justice, patience and most of all, His plan for humanity and our salvation through Jesus Christ.
An organization in Colorado Springs for the propagation of a new kind of church is The Open Church Ministries. It promotes a "prophecy" written by Dean Cozzens regarding the Hebrew Roots movement.
This "prophecy" discloses that the Hebrew Roots movement as the last of a series of movements designed to change the direction of the church, the previous movements being the Pentecostal, Charismatic and Word of Faith.
Part of this prophecy declares this:
"… The critical turn in thinking [which Christians must make] is a shift away from the Greek corruptions of the past and back toward the center line God-ordained Hebrew runway, down which Jesus Himself came and landed perfectly. Jesus Himself was the airship, and the terminal where He had been loading since His first coming has been the world into which He has come. . . The runway then is all the Old Testament, i.e. all of the Old Testament Hebrew truth and revelation, and much of the Hebrew culture and custom that came with it…"
"We'll leave on the same runway Jesus landed on-Old Testament Hebrew revelations and prophecies, and Hebrew ways of thinking and living. That's who God revealed Himself to be, and Who Jesus also showed Himself to be when He lived here on this planet in the flesh."
"Many errors were incorporated into the early church in order to please and accommodate the Greek culture, and to escape anti-Hebrew persecutions from the Romans. These early corruptions are what we mean by the Hebrew-to-Greek shift. The correction of this past mistake is the turning of that great airliner in what is called the Greek-to-Hebrew shift, or the Hebrew Movement. It is what God now expects from us before He more fully empowers us, and thrusts us into His glory. It's what we need to do to make Him more comfortable about openly identifying Himself with us in His full approval of glory and power…" 2.
To Embrace Hebrew Roots: Part 1:Introduction < click MUCH MORE.
proceed as you feel led.
or not.
To Embrace Hebrew Roots: Part I
.....seems fitting, then, that we examine the teachings of prominent leaders such as Peter Michas of Messengers of Messiah, Avi ben Mordechai of Torah Talk & the B'ne Torah Movement; Jacob Prasch of Moriel, Larry Rowland of Messengers of Truth and James Trimm of the Society for the Advancement of Nazarene Judaism. We must consider these and the many groups linked to them which are advocating the Hebrew Roots cause. Not all of the individuals and groups mentioned are claiming connections to the Messianic or Hebrew Roots movement, and these distinctions will be noted.
For example, Avi ben Mordechai, a "Nazarene (messianic) halacha" teacher, as stated on his website, (www.millenium7000.com/halacha.htm) in the article Halacha, is very influential within the Hebrew Roots and Messianic leadership. Mr. Mordechai made this pronouncement in an email to Mr. Ed Tarkowski, dated May 8, 1998:
"…I am not a proponent of the "Jewish Roots" or "Hebraic Roots" movement as you or they define the terms. I am a proponent of Torah observance for both Jews and non-Jews which takes "Jewish Roots" information and engages it to become a lifestyle. In other words, it's not Jewish information that I'm teaching in and of itself; It's Jewish information with an associated lifestyle that I uphold…"
"I am an Orthodox Sephardic Jew. I believe fully in the written and oral Torah of Moshe and of Y'shua, hence the term, the "Mesorah of Y'shua HaMashiach." Furthermore, I am not connected to the Messianic movement which generally (and I say GENERALLY) only accepts the written Torah and usually rejects the oral Torah and then makes the written Torah optional equipment for the faith which is fully counter to Y'shua's and Sha'ul's teachings."
" Nor am I connected to the Christian church which outright rejects both the written and oral Torot as being replaced with new Mesorah (traditions) that also violate the very heart of Y'shua HaMashiach's teachings. Rather, I am connected to the B'ne Torah movement which is a fast-growing sect of Judaism that happens to believe that Y'shua is HaMashiach, Ben Elohim and our Mesorah perfectly lines up with Moshe, Y'shua, and Sha'ul in their teachings of the Torot, oral and written."
For More on Avi ben Mordechai see: Avi ben Mordechai & Millennium 7000
In promoting their cause, Hebrew Roots leaders give us many reasons why we must or should become involved. For example, Larry Rowland of Messengers of Truth believes that the Bible is a book about the Jewish people, and should be studied as such:
"…In order to correctly understand the Newer Testament, it is beneficial to have a working knowledge of the world from which it was birthed. Most of the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation was written by Jews, for Jews, about Jews, or with Jews in mind. Even the Gospel of Luke and part of the Book of Acts, while probably written by Gentiles, nonetheless addressed Jewish issues and concerns on behalf of an early Jewish Church."
" Today, a travesty is occurring within the body of Christian believers. The Church, as well as Christians themselves, have a lack of knowledge concerning their Jewish heritage. Without that knowledge, Christians are burning their bridges at an alarming rate. They have forgotten the foundation on which their faith was originally founded."
"Only the knowledge of our Hebraic Roots, will allow us, as Christians, to span the bridge of time linking yesterday to today; allowing us to understand the full richness of Scripture. Remember, what you miss, don't see or comprehend in Scripture you can't have and Yeshua's desire was that we, as believers in Him . . . have it all!"1.
We have always understood that the Bible was a revelation of God himself. It encompasses His unending love, mercy, justice, patience and most of all, His plan for humanity and our salvation through Jesus Christ.
An organization in Colorado Springs for the propagation of a new kind of church is The Open Church Ministries. It promotes a "prophecy" written by Dean Cozzens regarding the Hebrew Roots movement.
This "prophecy" discloses that the Hebrew Roots movement as the last of a series of movements designed to change the direction of the church, the previous movements being the Pentecostal, Charismatic and Word of Faith.
Part of this prophecy declares this:
"… The critical turn in thinking [which Christians must make] is a shift away from the Greek corruptions of the past and back toward the center line God-ordained Hebrew runway, down which Jesus Himself came and landed perfectly. Jesus Himself was the airship, and the terminal where He had been loading since His first coming has been the world into which He has come. . . The runway then is all the Old Testament, i.e. all of the Old Testament Hebrew truth and revelation, and much of the Hebrew culture and custom that came with it…"
"We'll leave on the same runway Jesus landed on-Old Testament Hebrew revelations and prophecies, and Hebrew ways of thinking and living. That's who God revealed Himself to be, and Who Jesus also showed Himself to be when He lived here on this planet in the flesh."
"Many errors were incorporated into the early church in order to please and accommodate the Greek culture, and to escape anti-Hebrew persecutions from the Romans. These early corruptions are what we mean by the Hebrew-to-Greek shift. The correction of this past mistake is the turning of that great airliner in what is called the Greek-to-Hebrew shift, or the Hebrew Movement. It is what God now expects from us before He more fully empowers us, and thrusts us into His glory. It's what we need to do to make Him more comfortable about openly identifying Himself with us in His full approval of glory and power…" 2.
To Embrace Hebrew Roots: Part 1:Introduction < click MUCH MORE.
proceed as you feel led.
or not.
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This Shul used to have a website (otherwise I'd post it).
It is/was near where I live.
This Shul used to believe Yeshua as Messiah.
As Judaizing influenced increased...
This is now a Jewish Synagogue
This Synagogue now DENIES Yeshua as Messiah.
Write them to verify...
Is this the direction you yearn for?
This Shul used to have a website (otherwise I'd post it).
It is/was near where I live.
This Shul used to believe Yeshua as Messiah.
As Judaizing influenced increased...
This is now a Jewish Synagogue
This Synagogue now DENIES Yeshua as Messiah.
Write them to verify...
Is this the direction you yearn for?
ty for verification crossnote.
i know this is not an easy subject.
but this was always the plan.
and it's growing.
Paul wasn't joking:
Galatians 1:8
No Other Gospel
6I marvel that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ to another gospel: 7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
i know this is not an easy subject.
but this was always the plan.
and it's growing.
Paul wasn't joking:
Galatians 1:8
No Other Gospel
6I marvel that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ to another gospel: 7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
It is ridiculous to paint everyone who studies Hebrew and the O.T. as returning to bondage.
If the law was a schoolmaster to those before Christ it is also one now to us who came after.
Are there charlatans who seek to homogenize the two religions? (Judaism and Christianity?) - Yes.
- You will know them by their fruits.
- - Anyone who claims keeping the law is necessary for salvation is denying Jesus Christ.
- - - Anyone who denies the law is good and perfect has denied Him already.
- - - - Not a complex question.
If the law was a schoolmaster to those before Christ it is also one now to us who came after.
Are there charlatans who seek to homogenize the two religions? (Judaism and Christianity?) - Yes.
- You will know them by their fruits.
- - Anyone who claims keeping the law is necessary for salvation is denying Jesus Christ.
- - - Anyone who denies the law is good and perfect has denied Him already.
- - - - Not a complex question.
no one has done that that i have seen.
we all study the OT, and rely on Hebrew scholars.
that's not the reality behind the HR movement.
someone said it's a backdoor into the Church.
in reality it's a backdoor out of the Church.
little by little.
a little leaven here and there, and people are literally taking oaths before panels of Rabbis denouncing Christians, the Church and Jesus Himself.
i'll get videos.
true.
it isn't for us, and it shouldn't be.
this is subtle movement.
you'll see as you go.
it's deadly.
we all study the OT, and rely on Hebrew scholars.
that's not the reality behind the HR movement.
someone said it's a backdoor into the Church.
in reality it's a backdoor out of the Church.
little by little.
a little leaven here and there, and people are literally taking oaths before panels of Rabbis denouncing Christians, the Church and Jesus Himself.
i'll get videos.
true.
it isn't for us, and it shouldn't be.
this is subtle movement.
you'll see as you go.
it's deadly.
Legalism can take awful forms both ways.
It is just as 'Spanish inquisition' like to say all who are of the Hebrew Roots Movement are subverting Christianity.
Just as hard.
You can't make claims that throw every soul into that batch.
It is truly Inquisition like.
What subverts grace is killing people for their truth seeking.
Not every soul in the hebrew roots movement is ebbing from the crest of belial.
It just isn't so.
It is just as 'Spanish inquisition' like to say all who are of the Hebrew Roots Movement are subverting Christianity.
Just as hard.
You can't make claims that throw every soul into that batch.
It is truly Inquisition like.
What subverts grace is killing people for their truth seeking.
Not every soul in the hebrew roots movement is ebbing from the crest of belial.
It just isn't so.
What warning? That the prayer shawl sold by a televangelist has no power?
That is the type of thing to warn against.
Or the phoney baloney doctrine that you need to adhere to every subset of ancient jewish religious affectation to be accepted by God? ........This is the warning signal. - Because this is not in the law.
It's not God's law.
There is a huge difference.
That is the type of thing to warn against.
Or the phoney baloney doctrine that you need to adhere to every subset of ancient jewish religious affectation to be accepted by God? ........This is the warning signal. - Because this is not in the law.
It's not God's law.
There is a huge difference.
With your suggestion in mind, should people be calling one theology a cult while they belong to a named schism? After all, we are to learn from the Word, and only from the Word if we want truth. Following a structured faith named for a man, rather than following Yeshua sounds like a cult to me, but perhaps I am missing something here.
I know if I say I am learning Hebrew in order to please the Father in "my own way," I am told it is laughable.
Do you want another laugh? I have always read the Word aloud so as to preach the Word to the Universe, to all. Now that I have practiced for close to 50 years. Is this not terribly funny?
As for belonging to any named theology, if the base of the belief, be it Lutheran or Hebrew Roots, is to give all glory to Yeshua, I believe there are brethren within the ranks, and I judge none.
There are people in the room who "will not stand for" practices of others. They will stand, One Day.
People "lol" at people, which in my esteem, is no different from scoffing. One should never laugh at those they have not understood. Posting cutie cartoons is the same in imagery. It is scoffing.
Perhaps this is why the Word was not originally illustrated, perhaps.
One of the lol'ers informs me that the differnce between Judas and Judah is, "Judas is in English." And so it goes.
Does everyone know that a wise person learns from watching others, even from one's enemies one may learn.
May Yahweh bless all in Yeshua, amen.
I know if I say I am learning Hebrew in order to please the Father in "my own way," I am told it is laughable.
Do you want another laugh? I have always read the Word aloud so as to preach the Word to the Universe, to all. Now that I have practiced for close to 50 years. Is this not terribly funny?
As for belonging to any named theology, if the base of the belief, be it Lutheran or Hebrew Roots, is to give all glory to Yeshua, I believe there are brethren within the ranks, and I judge none.
There are people in the room who "will not stand for" practices of others. They will stand, One Day.
People "lol" at people, which in my esteem, is no different from scoffing. One should never laugh at those they have not understood. Posting cutie cartoons is the same in imagery. It is scoffing.
Perhaps this is why the Word was not originally illustrated, perhaps.
One of the lol'ers informs me that the differnce between Judas and Judah is, "Judas is in English." And so it goes.
Does everyone know that a wise person learns from watching others, even from one's enemies one may learn.
May Yahweh bless all in Yeshua, amen.
There is a form of teaching that says you will be more blessed by raising a menorah, or blowing a ram's horn, or surrounding yourself with the affectations of early Hebraic worship,(as if those certain articles can save).
- This also is not from God.
But to paint the Hebrew Roots Movement as nothing more than a consignor of mere aesthetic trivialities is a mistake.
It's deeper than the cavalier trivialities of some who are sent to do nothing more than coalesce Christianity and Judaism.
- It's like lumping all Lutherans into a category that denies the existence of Lucifer.
( The serial killer known as 'B.T.K.' went to a church who held to this....that the devil is a figment of man's imagination.)
He was voted layman of the year by the same church one year in fact.
- This also is not from God.
But to paint the Hebrew Roots Movement as nothing more than a consignor of mere aesthetic trivialities is a mistake.
It's deeper than the cavalier trivialities of some who are sent to do nothing more than coalesce Christianity and Judaism.
- It's like lumping all Lutherans into a category that denies the existence of Lucifer.
( The serial killer known as 'B.T.K.' went to a church who held to this....that the devil is a figment of man's imagination.)
He was voted layman of the year by the same church one year in fact.
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