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Not true.
Romans 9:6
"For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel...
In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring."
Its important to know theological views of Paul and how he uses words to understand his letters.
Romans 9:6
"For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel...
In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring."
Its important to know theological views of Paul and how he uses words to understand his letters.
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See here? He speaks arrogantly like he knows us,
My sin was forgiven on the cross. In the past. there is no future forgiveness.
No, I live in the present, What happens to future Israel has no bearingn on anythign I do or believe..
I just like a God who keeps his promises.
And your arrogance is quite childlike. You do not even know what we believe and you just proved it.
My sin was forgiven on the cross. In the past. there is no future forgiveness.
No, I live in the present, What happens to future Israel has no bearingn on anythign I do or believe..
I just like a God who keeps his promises.
And your arrogance is quite childlike. You do not even know what we believe and you just proved it.
I know you premills with your weird doctrines like the back of my hand. I was pre-mill myself as a result of Scofield until I saw the fallacies, and the weird stretching of Greek and Hebrew that was necessary,
so the Jews at the end are not to be forgiven?
except it robs you of the whole OT LOL
so do I, as interpreted by the NT
LOL LOL
see above
I'm assuming that you don't take Romans 11:26 literally because if you are taking it literally then you believe that every single one of the flesh descendants of Israel including the ones who cried crucify him and the ones that have died without Christ throughout history will be saved.... I think not!
Romans 11:26 KJV
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Romans 11:26 KJV
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
It is an obsession with the Jews, you guys totally dismiss scripture that plainly states fleshy Israel are not the children of God.
Romans 9:8 KJV
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Children of the flesh are the physical descendants of Israel. What do you think children of the flesh means?
Romans 9:8 KJV
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Children of the flesh are the physical descendants of Israel. What do you think children of the flesh means?
It needs a really huge construction of:
- two returns of Christ (one invisible, one visible),
- possibility to be saved by faith after the church is taken away (logically inconsistent, because church is all who are saved),
- two salvation plans (one for believing Jews, one for unbelieving Jews who will be forced to believe in the end)
...to see some future event for Israel in Paul's letters. This view was unknown in church until dispensational theology came in 1890, teaching about literal 1000 years, church as being only a temporary event in the plan for Israel etc.
- two returns of Christ (one invisible, one visible),
- possibility to be saved by faith after the church is taken away (logically inconsistent, because church is all who are saved),
- two salvation plans (one for believing Jews, one for unbelieving Jews who will be forced to believe in the end)
...to see some future event for Israel in Paul's letters. This view was unknown in church until dispensational theology came in 1890, teaching about literal 1000 years, church as being only a temporary event in the plan for Israel etc.
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11 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
I think Paul can explain it better than I could.
It has nothing to do with us, It has to do with a nation of people. (Israel) who are blinded in part today, Who are enemies of th egospel. but beloved because of the fathers, But will repent (as a nation) in the future..
I think Paul can explain it better than I could.
It has nothing to do with us, It has to do with a nation of people. (Israel) who are blinded in part today, Who are enemies of th egospel. but beloved because of the fathers, But will repent (as a nation) in the future..