It Is satanic Heresy to Deny Eternal Security
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"Why are you trying to say they are not saved? Your the one judging them, not me, Jesus said he came to save, not judge, Judgment is left fot the last day, And who will suffer judgment?" -Eternallygrateful
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
"if you think you can lose salvation, your trying to earn it. Period. Stop decieving yourself into thinking otherwise."-Eternallygrateful
[SUP]27 [/SUP]But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
"if you think you can lose salvation, your trying to earn it. Period. Stop decieving yourself into thinking otherwise."-Eternallygrateful
[SUP]27 [/SUP]But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
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Kind of like the 12 step program, admitting your sin is the first step to recovery.
We're not told to remain complacent with our sin continuing as a sinner.
Jesus expected more of us after accepting him.
After what John said, admitting one is a sinner.
May I now direct your attention to what Jesus said and kept telling people over and over and over and over and over and over. the message not being you're a sinner admit it but instead
John 5
7“Sir,” the invalid replied, “I have no one to help me into the pool when the water is stirred. While I am trying to get in, someone else goes down ahead of me.”
8Then Jesus said to him, “Get up! Pick up your mat and walk.” 9At once the man was cured; he picked up his mat and walked.
The day on which this took place was a Sabbath, 10and so the Jewish leaders said to the man who had been healed, “It is the Sabbath; the law forbids you to carry your mat.”
11But he replied, “The man who made me well said to me, ‘Pick up your mat and walk.’ ”
12So they asked him, “Who is this fellow who told you to pick it up and walk?”
13The man who was healed had no idea who it was, for Jesus had slipped away into the crowd that was there.
14Later Jesus found him at the temple and said to him,
“See, you are well again. Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you.”
Repent...and Go and sin no more being the order and command and directive of our High priest and commander.
We're not told to remain complacent with our sin continuing as a sinner.
Jesus expected more of us after accepting him.
After what John said, admitting one is a sinner.
May I now direct your attention to what Jesus said and kept telling people over and over and over and over and over and over. the message not being you're a sinner admit it but instead
John 5
7“Sir,” the invalid replied, “I have no one to help me into the pool when the water is stirred. While I am trying to get in, someone else goes down ahead of me.”
8Then Jesus said to him, “Get up! Pick up your mat and walk.” 9At once the man was cured; he picked up his mat and walked.
The day on which this took place was a Sabbath, 10and so the Jewish leaders said to the man who had been healed, “It is the Sabbath; the law forbids you to carry your mat.”
11But he replied, “The man who made me well said to me, ‘Pick up your mat and walk.’ ”
12So they asked him, “Who is this fellow who told you to pick it up and walk?”
13The man who was healed had no idea who it was, for Jesus had slipped away into the crowd that was there.
14Later Jesus found him at the temple and said to him,
“See, you are well again. Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you.”
Repent...and Go and sin no more being the order and command and directive of our High priest and commander.
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There you go earning your salvation again. I thought you said you were not doing this?
Anytime you use the word I, you are focusing on self.
Paul did not fear losing salvation, he feared losing the baility to teach others because he was cast out as a hypocrite. We should ALL fear this (I Know I do)
You cannot read eph 1 and 2 and think paul ever feared losing his salvation.
Anytime you use the word I, you are focusing on self.
Paul did not fear losing salvation, he feared losing the baility to teach others because he was cast out as a hypocrite. We should ALL fear this (I Know I do)
You cannot read eph 1 and 2 and think paul ever feared losing his salvation.
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yep. But you not only have to admit your sin to yourself and God. God tells us to confess our sins to our brothers so they can help us overcome and disciple us.
If your in legalism, you will never do this, you will hide your sin (unless it is some sin you think is so little, it is not worth judging over)
I have seen this happen over and over.
A person who believes in osas has no fear of judgment, he is free to go confess his sin to his brother. And he will get help, and not fade away.
If your in legalism, you will never do this, you will hide your sin (unless it is some sin you think is so little, it is not worth judging over)
I have seen this happen over and over.
A person who believes in osas has no fear of judgment, he is free to go confess his sin to his brother. And he will get help, and not fade away.
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well that is to bad. If you read the context. that is what he is talking about. The end times tribulation. Not eternal life.
You will be delivered up to tribulation, and hated by all men, BUT HE WHO ENDURES will be saved.
They will want to kill you. You are warned, so you have the ability and strength to endure.
You will be delivered up to tribulation, and hated by all men, BUT HE WHO ENDURES will be saved.
They will want to kill you. You are warned, so you have the ability and strength to endure.