Jesus had a House!

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AlexCalbee

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Thats a very good observation!
I doubt if they had much remaining once they were back in Nazareth since Jesus had to do carpentry to sustain the family.
Something to do with some wise guys presenting gifts at the birth of Jesus of gold, frankincense and myrrh. I don't believe the quantities were listed but seeing as they traveled a long way to present these gifts the amount of each was probably substantial.
 
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Thats a very good observation!
I doubt if they had much remaining once they were back in Nazareth since Jesus had to do carpentry to sustain the family.
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not sure where it says that He 'had-to', but back then, Fathers and Mothers
taught their children 'trades', so that they might live a life of value to themselves
and to others, along with supporting their families...
 
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not sure where it says that He 'had-to', but back then, Fathers and Mothers
taught their children 'trades', so that they might live a life of value to themselves
and to others, along with supporting their families...
Very true. And I'm pretty sure the family wasn't dependent upon his income since He could just up and take off wandering around the countryside for three years.
 
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And it happened that He was reclining in his house
Yes, and the HE being spoken of is... Jesus!



where our Lord lived was a different geographical location than what He spoke of,
as in, 'The Son of Man didn't have a place to lay His head', etc....
Exactly.




I never knew that Jesus' parents received the wealth of a prince!
He taught in the synagogues also (He was a rabbi, or teacher) and received offerings which was obvious because He had a treasurer.




I think I invented a new theology
Kinda like the 7th day adventists... they are called that cause, they "inventist" their own religion.

I guess there they go to Saturday School. :rolleyes:




not sure where it says that He 'had-to'
On the other hand, the NT does say if a man won't work he shouldn't eat.





He could just up and take off wandering around the countryside for three years
NOw, that hardly describes what Jesus was doing... He was on a mission from God!

And NO, the blues brothers had nothing to do with it either.
 

p_rehbein

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Why do some people insist on trying to make Jesus out to be a liar?

John 1:39 explained:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]John 1:39[/FONT]He saith unto them, come and see
He gave them an invitation, to go along with him directly, and see with their own eyes, where he dwelt, and there and then converse with him, and at any other time; to which they had a hearty welcome:

they came and saw where he dwelt;
they accepted of the invitation, and went along with him immediately, and saw, and took notice of the place where he had lodgings,
that they might know it, and find it another time; which Dr. Lightfoot conjectures was at Capernaum, which is very probable; since that was his own city, where he paid tribute, where he frequently resorted, and was on the banks of Jordan, near the lake of Gennesaret; and these disciples were Galilaeans:

It was not His house..........He was simply staying in someone else's house.

Matthew 8:19)
[FONT=&quot]And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.[/FONT]
20[FONT=&quot] .) And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

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And Jesus saith unto him
Knowing his heart, and the carnal and worldly views with which he acted;

the foxes have holes
in the earth, where they hide themselves from danger, take their rest, and secure their whelps;

and the birds of the air have nests,
where they sit, lay, and hatch their eggs, and bring up their young;

but the son of man has not where to lay his head,
when he is weary, and wants rest and sleep, as he did at this time. So that though he was Lord of all, as being the mighty God; yet as "the son of man", a phrase, expressive both of the truth and meanness of his human nature, the most despicable of creatures in the earth and air, were richer than he. This he said, to convince the Scribe of his mistake; who expected much worldly grandeur and wealth, by becoming his disciple. When Christ styles himself "the son of man", it is no contradiction to his being God; nor any objection to trust and confidence in him, as the Jew F26 suggests; for he is truly and properly God, as well as really man, having two natures, human and divine, united in his person; so that he is, as was prophesied of him, Emmanuel, God with us, in our nature, God manifested in the flesh: and since he is so, it cannot be unlawful to trust in him; which it would be indeed, was he a mere man. The Jews ought not to object to this name and title of the "Messiah, the son of man": since he is so called, as their own writers and commentators acknowledge, in F1 ( Psalms 80:17 ) and F2 ( Daniel 7:13 Daniel 7:14 ) . And whereas it is further urged against these words of Christ, that if he was God, why does he complain of want of place? Is not the whole world his, according to ( Psalms 24:1 ) ? It may be replied, that it is very true, that the whole world is his, nor could he be in want of anything, as God; but yet, as man, for our sakes he became "poor", that we "might be rich": nor should this be any difficulty with a Jew, when they themselves say, as some have thought, if he (the Messiah) should come, (hyb anbytyd atkwd yl) , "there's no place in which he can sit down" F3. Unless it be understood of Nebuchadnezzar, as the gloss explains it; let the learned inspect the place, and judge: the coming of the Messiah is immediately spoken of.


Why do some people insist on trying to make Jesus out to be a liar?


 

p_rehbein

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"[SUP]19:29[/SUP] And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life." (Matthew 19:29 KJV)

"[SUP]10:11[/SUP] And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, inquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. [SUP]10:12[/SUP] And when ye come into an house, salute it. [SUP]10:13[/SUP] And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. [SUP]10:14[/SUP] And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet." (Matthew 10:11-14 KJV)

Daily Bible Study - Did Jesus Own A Home?
 

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[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou?
[SUP]39 [/SUP]He saith unto them, Come and see. They came and saw where he dwelt, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour. John 1:38-39


But in the end, Jesus would curse Capernaum because of the amount of time He invested in that community and the inhabitants refusal to repent:
And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You will descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Nevertheless I say to you that it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for you. Matthew 11:23-24
 
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Jesus had a house..... well it did say so.

When Joseph died, He would have been the firstborn & inherited a double portion from his estate..... if he still had one.

Everybody seems to forget that Joseph & Mary were just & righteous, following the Law.

Seeing it was proper to give to the poor, this would have happened with them, as well as Jesus doing it.

Seeing that Jews were considered second class or lower in Egypt, who knows how much work Joseph got when he lived there for three years.

Judas pilfered through what offerings they had received, & he didn't get rich off of it..... which means the wealth was already gone.

So the scripture was right when Jesus said he didn't have a place to lay His head.

If Jesus had wealth when he died, His brothers would have inherited it, & one of them was an apostle in the church at Jerusalem.

Jerusalem was known as the poorest church during the 1st century. No wealth there.

Please don't mix the prosperity message in & declare Jesus was rich.:(
 
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Please don't mix the prosperity message in & declare Jesus was rich
Jesus was rich, and it has nothing to do with today's modern so-called prosperity money grubbing message.

Dude, He had a treasurer! He supported 12 men along with who knows how many others that were in His company at various times during His ministry and He was known for giving to the poor. People gave money to Him because many of the people believed He was the Messiah!

What some of you folks are forgetting is all the promises God made in the OT about the blessings that would come upon the descendants of Abraham that walked upright for the Lord.

I'd be careful if I were you claiming (or being ignorant of) God not fulfilling His promises, and/or Jesus not having walked upright before God during His time here on Club Earth!

Ain't gonna be nuthin nice fo those folks fo sho!
 
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Jesus was rich, and it has nothing to do with today's modern so-called prosperity money grubbing message.

Dude, He had a treasurer! He supported 12 men along with who knows how many others that were in His company at various times during His ministry and He was known for giving to the poor. People gave money to Him because many of the people believed He was the Messiah!

What some of you folks are forgetting is all the promises God made in the OT about the blessings that would come upon the descendants of Abraham that walked upright for the Lord.

I'd be careful if I were you claiming (or being ignorant of) God not fulfilling His promises, and/or Jesus not having walked upright before God during His time here on Club Earth!

Ain't gonna be nuthin nice fo those folks fo sho!
I see why they call you Rockrz..... yer definitely off yours.:rolleyes:
 

p_rehbein

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I don't know if you are actually that dumb, or if you are just stirring the pot. Either way, you are playing a dangerous game when you publicly demean Jesus. You are playing with fire for sure dude........and you better wise up.

The majority of the financial support of His Ministry came from the personal wealth of the women who traveled with Him, and the rest from donations received.

I don't know if your comments are breaking any Rules of the Forum, but you are getting very close to mocking Christ, and it that is not against the Rules, it should be.

Please go away

Jesus was rich, and it has nothing to do with today's modern so-called prosperity money grubbing message.

Dude, He had a treasurer! He supported 12 men along with who knows how many others that were in His company at various times during His ministry and He was known for giving to the poor. People gave money to Him because many of the people believed He was the Messiah!

What some of you folks are forgetting is all the promises God made in the OT about the blessings that would come upon the descendants of Abraham that walked upright for the Lord.

I'd be careful if I were you claiming (or being ignorant of) God not fulfilling His promises, and/or Jesus not having walked upright before God during His time here on Club Earth!

Ain't gonna be nuthin nice fo those folks fo sho!
 

p_rehbein

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As I showed in the Scriptures provided, Jesus forsook any and all ties to the possessions of Joseph and Mary. It did not say he had a house, it said He showed them were He was STAYING. Big difference there

Jesus had a house..... well it did say so.

When Joseph died, He would have been the firstborn & inherited a double portion from his estate..... if he still had one.

Everybody seems to forget that Joseph & Mary were just & righteous, following the Law.

Seeing it was proper to give to the poor, this would have happened with them, as well as Jesus doing it.

Seeing that Jews were considered second class or lower in Egypt, who knows how much work Joseph got when he lived there for three years.

Judas pilfered through what offerings they had received, & he didn't get rich off of it..... which means the wealth was already gone.

So the scripture was right when Jesus said he didn't have a place to lay His head.

If Jesus had wealth when he died, His brothers would have inherited it, & one of them was an apostle in the church at Jerusalem.

Jerusalem was known as the poorest church during the 1st century. No wealth there.

Please don't mix the prosperity message in & declare Jesus was rich.:(
 

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If Jesus had a house..would He have asked John to take care of His mother?

Personally, I don't care. :)
 
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If Jesus had a house..would He have asked John to take care of His mother?
Cause... He wuz gonna be out of town for 3 days and nights... and then leave the planet shortly thereafter


Personally, I don't care
If that were true, you would not be asking questions and commenting.



I see why they call you Rockrz..... yer definitely off yours
Yeah, believing Jesus was a powerful man during His time here on Club Earth in every area of His life is not religious enough for ya???

God can deliver you from that view that satan tries to get religious people to believe that Jesus was some broke down, poor, skinny little weakling with a couple of sheep under His arms... you know they way a lot of religious paintings of Jesus show Him as...

Jesus was a powerful and perfect God/Man... now, He's the risen Lord of Glory!



you are playing a dangerous game when you publicly demean Jesus
You're the one claiming God's Word contains lies, not me.



You are playing with fire for sure dude........and you better wise up.
I don't take advice from nutjobs who claim God's Word contains lies... thanks for thinking of me tho, really touching to know you care





you are getting very close to mocking Christ
You are calling God a liar so if any mocking is going on it's you who do de doo



Please go away
Why, the voices in yer head can't stand someone who accepts God's Word as it is written???

That's yer problem not mine. Just don't read my posts and you'll be fine budrow.

Yer not gonna start crying again are ya???


Let me know if you need a tissue!
 
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Well, we do know that at about 18 months to 2 years of age, his parents were given the wealth of at least a prince, and it sure didn't take all that $ to travel to Egypt and back. So, I doubt He was ever hurting for money.

Relatively speaking, He probably had far more wealth than the TV evangelists so many people here bash for being so carnal as to dare to have money.
Luke 8.1-3

Soon afterwards, He began going around from one city and village to another, proclaiming and preaching the kingdom of God. The twelve were with Him, [SUP]2 [/SUP]and also some women who had been healed of evil spirits and sicknesses: Mary who was called Magdalene, from whom seven demons had gone out, [SUP]3 [/SUP]and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others who were contributing to their support out of their private means.
 
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If Jesus had a house..would He have asked John to take care of His mother?

Personally, I don't care. :)
Stones,
Women in Jesus time had no rights to any form of personal property like a home.

When Jesus made John he Mother care taker, we learn 2 things.

One, his Dad Joseph was dead, otherwise Jesus would have not given John son ship over Mary.

Second, Mary had no home of her own or one she could claim, because Joseph was dead and the oldest son, was about to die.

She had no claim to any property.
 
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and many others who were contributing to their support out of their private means
Yes, Jesus accepted free will offerings as did the Apostle Paul.

This further proves Jesus had access to money and goods / services as the Father made sure His needs were very well met.

The robe the roman soldiers cast lots over we very, very expensive... Jesus was a Person of means while here on Club Earth and He lacked for nothing that He needed.

The obvious difference between Jesus and fancy pants preachers today is Jesus was on a mission from God and money / possessions never ever came between Jesus and the Father and/or Jesus and the mission His father had called Him to.

In other words, He did not misuse money or use it for selfish gain.



Mary had no home of her own or one she could claim... She had no claim to any property
There is no scripture that suggests this, but thank you for sharing your speculation.

For all we know, Mary did have a house and John was simply going to be looking after Jesus' momma and making sure she got any help that she may need and was kept company as in friends and family to visit her
 
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Mat 8:18 Now when Jesus saw great multitudes about him, he gave commandment to depart unto the other side.
Mat 8:19 And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.
Mat 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

Luk 9:57 And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.
Luk 9:58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

Jesus is saying here that He did not have a dwelling place,but of course the disciples would,especially if they had a wive and kids.

I do not believe Jesus had a house,but traveled around and stayed at a house where He was welcome.

Mat 10:11 And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.
Mat 10:12 And when ye come into an house, salute it.
Mat 10:13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.

Like the disciples that when they were out preaching the Gospel,they stayed at whoever's house was worthy.

Jesus was only concerned with preaching the Gospel,and doing the will of God,so He was about all the time,and I do not believe He had a house,but stayed where ever He was welcome.

The foxes have holes,their dwelling place,and the birds have nests,their dwelling place,but Jesus had nowhere to lay His head,no dwelling place.
 
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Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head
Jesus was away from His home town when He said this... does not mean He did not own a home.


Jesus was only concerned with preaching the Gospel
Yes, and in the mission God had sent Him to accomplish He needed certain material possessions in this World of which the Father abundantly supplied because God promised to prosper those that walk upright before Him.

Jesus certainly walked upright before the Father... with perfection!

If Anyone ever could be trusted with stuff... it would be Jesus because it would not come between Him and the Father nor would it take away from the mission the Father sent Him here for.

Besides, He was known for giving to the poor... and you know what happens when you give don't you???
 
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There is no scripture that suggests this, but thank you for sharing your speculation.
For all we know, Mary did have a house and John was simply going to be looking after Jesus' momma and making sure she got any help that she may need and was kept company as in friends and family to visit her
If you would dig into Jewish customs and history you would understand what I said is true, the book of Ruth Confirms it.