Jesus is a God of conditional Love, not unconditional love.
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i said col 2;16 cotradicts this statement but i feel the need to be clear...this statement is not true.Grace is not achieved or maintained by works.however faith manifested itself through works.My LORD completed the work on the cross.when asked THE LORD said this is the work of GOD, that you believe on HIM who HE sent.zeal can be misplaced...be careful.
read what the Lord says here and tell me what the condition is
1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
what part of this do you NOT understand?
what is the condition of love required in the verse?
your emotions or feeling don't matter on how you feel about me.
what matters is the fact that i put the word and you don't understand, now I know why you are a 3 month babe in the word
read the word babe
keep ths in mind
Luke 22:31
And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
i have no desire to debate a babe so study to show yourself approved
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
how is this verse conflicting with what the Lord said
Originally Posted by ozell
one of God's condition for being holy is keeping his dietary law!
Lev 11:44 For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Lev 11:45 For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.
46: This is the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth:
47: To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten.
one of God's condition for being holy is keeping his dietary law!
Lev 11:44 For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Lev 11:45 For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.
46: This is the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth:
47: To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten.
rick was he circumcised?
Galatians 2
King James Version (KJV)
2 Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.
2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.
3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
Rick
there is no way titus would have got near those apsotles without circumcision
titus was circumcised
Timothy being a greek was circumcised
Acts 16
King James Version (KJV)
16 Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek:
2 Which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium.
3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.
4 And as they went through the cities, they delivered them the decrees for to keep, that were ordained of the apostles and elders which were at Jerusalem.
Acts 16
King James Version (KJV)
16 Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek:
2 Which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium.
3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.
4 And as they went through the cities, they delivered them the decrees for to keep, that were ordained of the apostles and elders which were at Jerusalem.
Ozell,
How do you reconcile certain parts of the law being fulfilled
by Jesus' perfect life and obedient death; yet others being
necessary to uphold for salvation?
Jesus' blood was just good enough to cover for those
animal sacrifices but not sufficient for the rest 'ey?
You shouldn't be so quick to find your solace in the law,
because one jot or tit'le of it won't pass away until He returns.
Who fulfilled the law?
Will it be you?
Or was it Jesus.
How do you reconcile certain parts of the law being fulfilled
by Jesus' perfect life and obedient death; yet others being
necessary to uphold for salvation?
Jesus' blood was just good enough to cover for those
animal sacrifices but not sufficient for the rest 'ey?
You shouldn't be so quick to find your solace in the law,
because one jot or tit'le of it won't pass away until He returns.
Who fulfilled the law?
Will it be you?
Or was it Jesus.
God is not created
God has always existed
God created time for man or our creation
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
when is the beginning?
Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
when is the beginning?
Revelation 1:11
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
when is the beginning?
Exodus 3:14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
I Am has been around forever
Rick
Jesus fulfilled the law of animal sacrifice and what he was prophesied to do for 3.5 years he taught the word.
when you speak of law there are many
animal sacrifice
commandments
feast days
circumcision
dietary laws
and every word that comes from the mouth of Jesus
Jesus fulfilled the law of animal sacrifce
the other laws are not fulfilled! they MUST be kept
Ozell,
Don't you think that is a little insulting to God.
That you claim His life was only good enough
to teach and replace the blood of bulls and goats?
Did not Jesus in His life fulfill all of the law?
Did He or not?
And if He didn't, what did He leave unfinished?
And if He left ANYTHING uncompleted why was the
temple veil separating the inner court from the Holy of
Holies wrent from top to bottom?
Why would the hand of God do this, if all of the law separating mankind from God wasn't fulfilled?
Don't you think that is a little insulting to God.
That you claim His life was only good enough
to teach and replace the blood of bulls and goats?
Did not Jesus in His life fulfill all of the law?
Did He or not?
And if He didn't, what did He leave unfinished?
And if He left ANYTHING uncompleted why was the
temple veil separating the inner court from the Holy of
Holies wrent from top to bottom?
Why would the hand of God do this, if all of the law separating mankind from God wasn't fulfilled?