Jesus is not King

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JOHN 10:30.
I and Father are One.

11COR. 12:13.
For by One Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles,
whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into One Spirit.

11TIM. 2:19.
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knows them that are His.
And, Let every one that names The Name of Christ depart from iniquity.

HEB. 10:14.
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

1JOHN 5:7.
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are ONE.
 
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Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.(see Hebrews 13:8) If Jesus is King in the future tense, he is also King now.
 
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John146 said:
Yet...

Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father until His enemies become His footstool at His second coming as King of kings and Lord of lords.

Matthew 22:44 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Right now, Jesus acts as our mediator between God and man. 1 Timothy 2:5
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There are many Kings and Lords in the Kingdom of God.
 
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breno785au said:
And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Matthew 28:18 ESV

What's one thing that a king has that a commoner hasn't? Authority.
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Matthew 16:19
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
 
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3putter said:
I believe Jesus is God. The Holy Trinity is difficult to understand. One day, we will all understand these mysteries.
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Matthew 13:11
He answered and said unto them,
Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven,
but to them it is not given.
 
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stonesoffire said:
All judgement has been given to Him, right? So He's sitting on the throne...I would say that too makes Him King.
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John 20:23
Whose soever sins ye remit,
they are remitted unto them;
and whose soever sins ye retain,
they are retained.
 
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reneweddaybyday

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God yearns for us to want Him to be intimately involved in every area of our lives. God's response when Israel asked for a king:

1 Samuel 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.



The Lord Jesus Christ reigns now:

1 Corinthians 15:24-26 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


 
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John146 said:
All authority has been given unto Him, but it's not His time to use that authority.
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What sort gives a person authority but isn't allowed to use it until another time? You're either given authority to exercise or you haven't been given the authority.
No one says, "I have authority but I cant use it."

In Jesus' name we have authority, the Apostles had authority in Jesus' name because Jesus has all authority.
 
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John146

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reneweddaybyday said:
God yearns for us to want Him to be intimately involved in every area of our lives. God's response when Israel asked for a king:

1 Samuel 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.



The Lord Jesus Christ reigns now:

1 Corinthians 15:24-26 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
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And He will reign for a thousand years, and after the thousand years He will put all enemies under His feet including Satan and death.
 
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breno785au said:
What sort gives a person authority but isn't allowed to use it until another time? You're either given authority to exercise or you haven't been given the authority.
No one says, "I have authority but I cant use it."

In Jesus' name we have authority, the Apostles had authority in Jesus' name because Jesus has all authority.
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When Jesus Has all authority, the earth will not be in chaos like it is now.
 
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John146 said:
Nope, but He's not ruling and reigning yet either.
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And? What exactly is the point of this thread?

Not that I agree with you on this matter, but I wonder, even if you were correct, so what? How does that affect your life?
 
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reneweddaybyday

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John146 said:
And He will reign for a thousand years, and after the thousand years He will put all enemies under His feet including Satan and death.
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Ephesians 1:

15 Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,

16 Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;

17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:

22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.


Our Lord Jesus Christ was set at the right Hand of the Father far above all principality, power, might, dominion, every name that is named, not only in this world but also in that which is to come (vs 21) and in vs 22, we read that all things were put under the feet our Lord Jesus Christ.

Notice in Eph 1:20, all this occurred when Christ ascended into heaven.
 
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John146 said:
Yet...

Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father until His enemies become His footstool at His second coming as King of kings and Lord of lords.

Matthew 22:44 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Right now, Jesus acts as our mediator between God and man. 1 Timothy 2:5
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He is my King, right now, and forever.
 
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resurrection33 said:
Jesus is king of the Kingdom of God, and that is where we are supposed to reside right now. We aren't supposed to be of the world.
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Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, 2 Cor 13:5


Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Heb 13:8



John 5:38
 
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The LORD is King, the God of truth.

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. 1 Cor 12:3

And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. Luke 23:46


Into thine hand I commit my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth. Ps 31:5




FGT said:
Matthew 13:11
He answered and said unto them,
Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven,
but to them it is not given.
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That means you must have seen the Father, "not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father." And he said, 'I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith."


John 6:46
Deut 32:20
 
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anyone think it strange that Jesus, from a royal family, was born on the outskirts of town and His family were tradesmen? any other royal family you can find a 20th cousin and they will still be living in a royal home with positions of authority.
 
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John146 said:
All authority has been given unto Him, but it's not His time to use that authority.
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He certainly will do 'when He comes ! Rev 19...that's why we are told to 'KISS the Son NOW = make Peace while his anger is not in full fury/wrath. 'Hear ye Him ! the warning is given ! Repent of your rebellion those who have substitited Him with an imposter !
 
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