Joyce Meyer: Do you like or dislike her? Explain!

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NMPEKA

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To start with, I believe its not up to to man to chose who God has to use as a vessel for His work to be done, as far as i know from the word of God, God uses the yielding vessel or should i say will vessel. Lets be very careful when we are commenting because Jesus promises us that every person will give an account for every careless words spoken (Matth 12v 36) and also God said in the book of psalms 105v15. and so if those of you who spoke bad thing concerning Joyce Meyer from what somebody researched and notSpirit of God telling you she is like that, i believe you have to repent and seek Gods guidance on this matter. Alot of people have been saved through her ministry and alot of people have change through her ministry. If you have personal treasons as to why you dont like her, pray to God help you in that area, because as Christian we are supposed to love one another and pray for one another. in clossing read Colosians 3v15-17
 
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my apologies for spelling errors and omissions in the above post.
 
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Tree_Spirit

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I'm kind of new here and I don't see nothing wrong with women being preachers.Christ himself prophesied it.Christ teachings were so radical for his time.What he preached and prophesied was not liked and also was a threat to some ways of life, the way people in power seen him.Why do you think a lot wanted to see Christ crucified,his teach contradiction the laws of his time and culture.Besides the fact that it was his destiny to die for our sins.

women may be preachers, proclaimers, ministers of the good news, outside the congregation meetings. In the Bible, all Christians are commanded to be preachers of the good news, and this preaching work would be a sign of the "last days" that Jesus talked about. (Matthew 24:14; 28:19,20). In the first century Christain congregation, there was no paid clergy class. All were preachers. At Pentecost of 33 C.E. holy spirit was poured out on both men and women. In explanation, the apostle Peter quoted Joel 2:28, 29, saying: "‘In the last days,’ God says, ‘I shall pour out some of my spirit upon every sort of flesh, and your sons and your daughters will prophesy and your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams; and even upon my men slaves and upon my women slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.’" (Acts 2:17, 18) In like manner today, women properly share in the Christian preaching of the good news outside of the congregation. In this way, the truest sense of the term "preachers," they ARE preachers

I seen nothing wrong with being a positive and inspiring person in God's word,we need more people like Joyce.Some like to focus on the negative and be closed mined.But that's the way things are in radical ways of teaching in God's word and some of mass can't except it,somethings haven't changed from Christ's days;)
 
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So all you folks who so openly align yourselves with the "teachings" of Joyce Meyer believe that salvation was bought not on the cross but afterwards? After Jesus was born again....in Hell?

Are you sure about that?

 
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Buddee, Joyce doesn't teach that alone. Try looking up Joyce Meyer's statement of faith and other sources she believes the Gospel and that salvation was bought on the cross.

See:

http://www.joycemeyer.org/OurMinistries/EverydayAnswers/How+to+Become+a+Christian/becomeachristian.htm?&MSHiC=65001&L=10&W=CROSSED%20CROSSING%20cross%20&Pre=%3CFONT%20STYLE%3D%22color%3A%20%23000000%3B%20background-color%3A%20%23FFFF00%22%3E&Post=%3C/FONT%3E

What did Jesus do? Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came into the world as a human being, lived a sinless life, died on the cross and rose from the dead.

Because Christ died to pay for our sins, your sins can be forgiven. And because He conquered death, you can have eternal life—you can know for sure what will happen to you after you die.
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In other words, any teaching about being born again in hell is not rejecting what Christ did on the cross as you ignorantly claim.
Also, any such view is one view of the atonement that she did not invent herself but exists within the charismatic/pentecostal community she is part of.

If you are seeking for objective facts and truth then by all means google away - it's not that hard, but consider both sides before commenting. If you aren't sseeking for objective facts and truth about Joyce Meyer then I believe God has a few words about that, called slander or similar.

If we believe Jesus died a sinners death, then Jesus would have also gone to the sinners grave which is hell, so the idea of Jesus going to hell is nothing new really nor that heretical it is pretty much common sense.
 
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MightyLionOfJuda

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I dont like the idea of women having pastoral roles and while her target audience may be women there are plenty of men that she would have no problem with listening in via television.plus she kinda sounds like a parrot
 
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MahogonySnail said:
Buddee, Joyce doesn't teach that alone. Try looking up Joyce Meyer's statement of faith and other sources she believes the Gospel and that salvation was bought on the cross.

See:

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In other words, any teaching about being born again in hell is not rejecting what Christ did on the cross as you ignorantly claim.

Also, any such view is one view of the atonement that she did not invent herself but exists within the charismatic/pentecostal community she is part of.

If you are seeking for objective facts and truth then by all means google away - it's not that hard, but consider both sides before commenting. If you aren't sseeking for objective facts and truth about Joyce Meyer then I believe God has a few words about that, called slander or similar.

If we believe Jesus died a sinners death, then Jesus would have also gone to the sinners grave which is hell, so the idea of Jesus going to hell is nothing new really nor that heretical it is pretty much common sense.
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I gotta ask, Do you use these same tactics that you do here in the real world as well? How does that work for you? Do people really respond positively to what comes off as a constant air of superiority?

Anyway...getting back to the issue at hand...

Perhaps if YOU were to research exactly what JMeyer teaches, what she herself actually has said, such as

“Jesus said, ‘It is finished.’ And He meant the Old Covenant. The job He had to do was just getting started. He really did the job the three days and nights that He was in hell. That’s where the job was done” (emphasis added).
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...you might not so ignorantly accuse others of not doing the same thing.


Whether or not she "invented" this particular view on atonement is of no importance.

The fact that it "exists within the charismatic/pentecostal community she is part of" does not make it truth.

Question for you. When was it Jesus told the thief on the cross that he would be with Jesus in paradise?

Was it "You'll certainly be with me in paradise, but first I have a 3 day layover in hell, so hang tough until then will ya?"

Or was it, "Today...shalt thou be with me in paradise."


 
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I've never met her.
 
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I gotta ask, Do you use these same tactics that you do here in the real world as well? How does that work for you? Do people really respond positively to what comes off as a constant air of superiority?

Anyway...getting back to the issue at hand...
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I think you're being a little bit oversensitive and need to be a bit more objective in your debating, preferably by using well-researched facts.


Perhaps if YOU were to research exactly what JMeyer teaches, what she herself actually has said, such as

“Jesus said, ‘It is finished.’ And He meant the Old Covenant. The job He had to do was just getting started. He really did the job the three days and nights that He was in hell. That’s where the job was done” (emphasis added).
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...you might not so ignorantly accuse others of not doing the same thing.
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It's not hard to google and find out that Joyce doesn't deny it's the cross that saves us, as you claim.


Whether or not she "invented" this particular view on atonement is of no importance.
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The fact that it "exists within the charismatic/pentecostal community she is part of" does not make it truth.
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Well by all standards of OSAS, pre-trib rapture and other views in modern day christianity that are wrong but openly accepted, it may not make it truth but it makes it popular. I haven't seen you address this belief system in particular but rather attack the person of Joyce Meyer. Is that because she's a woman ?


Question for you. When was it Jesus told the thief on the cross that he would be with Jesus in paradise?

Was it "You'll certainly be with me in paradise, but first I have a 3 day layover in hell, so hang tough until then will ya?"
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It's only speculation where Jesus went after he died. But as far as I understand, Jesus went to hell, i.e. the place of the dead, not to suffer torment, but to paradise. It was divided into two parts apparently, paradise and torment. It comes back to understanding of when we say "Jesus became sin for us". If Jesus became sin, he couldn't have gone to heaven or paradise without the sins of the whole world that he carried being dealt with first. It is only speculation and believing it doesn't take anything away from the cross and it's no big deal. People say everything was done at the cross. But the cross was a torturous execution device, and "the cross" includes the whole 3 days Jesus spent dead. So no, he didn't do everything on the cross, the main purpose of the cross was to kill Him. After he died, he wasn't on the cross no longer (unless you believe in soul sleep theory) - he went somewhere. Why did he spend 3 days dead? What happened then? These are the questions which Joyce and others go into detail about, and I hardly think it is so heretical for us to get our knickers in a knot about.
 
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MahogonySnail said:
I haven't seen you address this belief system in particular but rather attack the person of Joyce Meyer. Is that because she's a woman ?
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Could you please show me where this alleged...attack....took place?

No, of course you can't because there was no such attack.

Perhaps it's not a knot you have in your knickers, maybe just a little too much starch?

Lighten up and try to smile once in a while, will ya?

Oy!
 
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Actually I have never read any of her books. So I don't know her or what she teaches.
 
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I don't like to judge, but I just don't see how joyce meyer could be called of God. The Bible clearly says a women should not speak over a man and then it goes on to explain why. It says because adam was not deceived the women was. 1 Timothy 2:14.

Women are much more gulible and more less followers. I just don't see how God can honor something He clearly forbids.

I guess I"m just one of those guys who believes the whole Bible is the inspired Word of God. I mean if we don't belive those passages, how do we know what is wrong or right? Then people will say you just need to listen to the Holy Spirit. Well the Bible says we need to test the spirits to make sure it is the Holy Spirit. And how are we going to do that when we don't know were God's Word is?
 
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I think she loves money.


[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsxKoRrfwaw[/video]





Matthew 6:24 (King James Version)


24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
 
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From what I seen, I don't like her. She seemed to spend more time criticizing every other Christian out there, than helping then she'll claim she "loves to help people." Not really a fan.
 
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That was a good video clip. That is exactly what I feel about these televangelists.
 
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If more Christians would spend time in positive conversation instead of trying to find fault with others, there would be a lot less division in the body of Christ.
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miktre

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LynnJ said:
If more Christians would spend time in positive conversation instead of trying to find fault with others, there would be a lot less division in the body of Christ.
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Then why did you choose to make this post about our faults instead of posting something positive about Joyce Meyer:)
 
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1 Timothy 6:6-11 if all they are after is money they should be exposed
 
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