Judging

[my_adonai_]

When a person says do not judge, that only GOD can judge when the scriptures clearly say

1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
or what JESUS said

Joh 7:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel.
Joh 7:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.
Joh 7:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?
Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

and what about what Solomon asked concerning this?

2Ch_1:10 Give me now wisdom and knowledge, that I may go out and come in before this people: for who can judge this thy people, that is so great?

Did GOD rebuke Him for asking wisdom and knowledge to JUDGE His people NO!!. He knew Solomons heart, HIS very desire


2Ch_1:11 And God said to Solomon, Because this was in thine heart, and thou hast not asked riches, wealth, or honour, nor the life of thine enemies, neither yet hast asked long life; but hast asked wisdom and knowledge for thyself, that thou mayest judge my people, over whom I have made thee king:

And what about in the church of corinthians where the things of the church, those who have ONE MIND, YES, the mind of CHRIST, who could understand EACH OTHER through the EYES OF GOD taking the matters of FAMILY unto STRANGERS yes the very gentiles. That they could JUDGE amongst themselves the very small matters.

1Co 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?



and when ye say that we are not GOD, indeed we are not but what do you make of this scripture?

Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High

and when we say we can not tell where a person goes to when HE dies, we will know in the last day. do not the scriptures say,

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

and does not GOD put before us

Deu 30:15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Where is this doctrine of Do Not JUDGE me?

i know the word of GOD tells me to

Eph_4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Chri

showing the fruits of the Spirit in doing so. that is LOVE is the fruit of Spirit

and what i can differentiate is that WE should not Condemn people but they who work after the flesh are under condmentation

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Have people compromised this much, that when we see a sinner walking in sin and because we are afraid to tell them that they will go to hell if they DIE that way!!. are we now afraid to call sin as it is? but rather sugar coat it making excuses here and there. compromising here and there

FATHER forgive me and everyone that has done this.

let us therefore

1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

and be sure that

Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

GOD keeps recording of EVERY DEED we do, we can not run from HIM, nor HIDE from HIM, nor escape HIM nor say HE can not see me here.
we can only surrender not out of necessity NOR grudgingly but WILLINGLY.
Rev_20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev_20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.



indeed we should

Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
Gal 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

being sure that life is BLACK OR WHITE, none in between

so i say this, that i can JUDGE through the wisdom and knowledge that GOD gives me and the word HE puts in my heart to tell someone
but i can not say YOU ARE DESTINED FOR HELL(condemn someone) and THERE IS NO WAY OUT FOR YOU for that will be Abusing the Message of the CROSS.
condemnation is something, someone puts on themselves through their own deeds

Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Verse 18 says because HE IS NOT BELIEVED IN the name of the only begotten Son of GOD.
how so?
Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

HIS NAME IS SALVATION,and we must believe in it to be SAVED.

AND IT ALL STARTS with a CHANGE OF MIND.

GOD BLESS YOU EVERYONE
THE LORD IS SOON COMING, I PRAY THAT WE ALL WILL BE READY.

 

[VisAVisYou]

It's very simple. If I cannot judge when you do bad, then I cannot judge you when you do good, either...

but note, those who say don't judge usually only want it in a one-directional scheme. You are allowed to praise people all you want, they say, but you cannot judge them when they do bad? You can't have it both ways.

I do agree that being judgemental makes you a less good person, as you can follow every rule in the bible and still be a not so great person... lol. So it's not good to have it as a habit, as that can also blind you from reality. But a person who doesn't judge is an immoral person, given that they cannot condemn the bad, or praise the good. You might as well have been a cat, or a carrot, or a rock.

 

[my_adonai_]

Basically people want to be pampered and not told the truth.
so when GOD witnesses in your Spirit that you are an adulteress and you tell them about it, they say DO NOT JUDGE ME.

ai. better to tell me the truth than lies, it will be up to me to CHOOSE between the two.

 

[PS]

It's very simple. If I cannot judge when you do bad, then I cannot judge you when you do good, either...

but note, those who say don't judge usually only want it in a one-directional scheme. You are allowed to praise people all you want, they say, but you cannot judge them when they do bad? You can't have it both ways.

I do agree that being judgemental makes you a less good person, as you can follow every rule in the bible and still be a not so great person... lol. So it's not good to have it as a habit, as that can also blind you from reality. But a person who doesn't judge is an immoral person, given that they cannot condemn the bad, or praise the good. You might as well have been a cat, or a carrot, or a rock.

People are very judgmental, we only have to listen to the gossip which is all about what their neighbors and friends have been up to and without exception it seems they love to point the finger at others in judgement.

Now I make a point of not doing as others do, I simply get on with my life and leave others alone but I am unhappy that because I do not judge others you say that makes me immoral.

Now while I do not judge others, I do judge myself and modify my thoughts and deeds accordingly so as to reduce the bad and increase the good in myself and that has to be a good thing surely. I also do not like being compared to a cat, carrot or a rock thank you very much.

 

[JaumeJ]

We are commanded by Yeshua to judge for ourselves what is right, and this for ourselves, as He teaches. He also teaches about judging to condemnation, "Judge not, and you will not be judged." The judging of all things is not to condemnation, rather to judge for ouselves what is right and good, otherwise we are hypocrites. As it is written, when the thrones have been set up and the crowns are given then judgment will be given to the saints, not before this time, otherwise we have begun to reign without our King. Blessed be all in Jesus Christ, amen .

When a person says do not judge, that only GOD can judge when the scriptures clearly say

1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
or what JESUS said

Joh 7:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel.
Joh 7:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.
Joh 7:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?
Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

and what about what Solomon asked concerning this?

2Ch_1:10 Give me now wisdom and knowledge, that I may go out and come in before this people: for who can judge this thy people, that is so great?

Did GOD rebuke Him for asking wisdom and knowledge to JUDGE His people NO!!. He knew Solomons heart, HIS very desire


2Ch_1:11 And God said to Solomon, Because this was in thine heart, and thou hast not asked riches, wealth, or honour, nor the life of thine enemies, neither yet hast asked long life; but hast asked wisdom and knowledge for thyself, that thou mayest judge my people, over whom I have made thee king:

And what about in the church of corinthians where the things of the church, those who have ONE MIND, YES, the mind of CHRIST, who could understand EACH OTHER through the EYES OF GOD taking the matters of FAMILY unto STRANGERS yes the very gentiles. That they could JUDGE amongst themselves the very small matters.

1Co 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?



and when ye say that we are not GOD, indeed we are not but what do you make of this scripture?

Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High

and when we say we can not tell where a person goes to when HE dies, we will know in the last day. do not the scriptures say,

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

and does not GOD put before us

Deu 30:15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Where is this doctrine of Do Not JUDGE me?

i know the word of GOD tells me to

Eph_4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Chri

showing the fruits of the Spirit in doing so. that is LOVE is the fruit of Spirit

and what i can differentiate is that WE should not Condemn people but they who work after the flesh are under condmentation

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Have people compromised this much, that when we see a sinner walking in sin and because we are afraid to tell them that they will go to hell if they DIE that way!!. are we now afraid to call sin as it is? but rather sugar coat it making excuses here and there. compromising here and there

FATHER forgive me and everyone that has done this.

let us therefore

1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

and be sure that

Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

GOD keeps recording of EVERY DEED we do, we can not run from HIM, nor HIDE from HIM, nor escape HIM nor say HE can not see me here.
we can only surrender not out of necessity NOR grudgingly but WILLINGLY.
Rev_20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev_20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.



indeed we should

Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
Gal 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

being sure that life is BLACK OR WHITE, none in between

so i say this, that i can JUDGE through the wisdom and knowledge that GOD gives me and the word HE puts in my heart to tell someone
but i can not say YOU ARE DESTINED FOR HELL(condemn someone) and THERE IS NO WAY OUT FOR YOU for that will be Abusing the Message of the CROSS.
condemnation is something, someone puts on themselves through their own deeds

Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Verse 18 says because HE IS NOT BELIEVED IN the name of the only begotten Son of GOD.
how so?
Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

HIS NAME IS SALVATION,and we must believe in it to be SAVED.

AND IT ALL STARTS with a CHANGE OF MIND.

GOD BLESS YOU EVERYONE
THE LORD IS SOON COMING, I PRAY THAT WE ALL WILL BE READY.

 

[Twinkle77]

We have to judge objectively and not subjectively.

If I were a pastor/teacher and I see someone in sin continuously, out of the love of my heart
for the brother/sister in Christ, I judge his/her actions according to the bible and therefore
need to speak to this person to direct them onto the right path. Is this correct? Of course, as a pastor,
I am accountable to God as this person is under my care.

If I were not holding any office and am just a brother/sister in Christ, still we need to
do what the pastor does. We all should carry each other's burdens and help each other
according to the word of God.
Look at Paul when he rebuked Peter

The problem is that many have alot of pride in their hearts and cannot accept correction from another brother and therefore many refrain from doing this.

I remember a sweet elderly brother in Christ. He went forward to another brother and spoke to him.
And this brother was so angry and said to him to take the plank out of his eye before trying to take the speck out of his.

It seems this is the verse that is used often for a situation like this. If everyone uses this, then no one will
be correcting anyone because all of us have some fault or other in our lives as long as we live in this world.

We should have a humble heart and and correct one another so that we can grow and get rid of sin that tries to
grip us and stagnate our growth in Christ.

Correction does not bring condemnation. Condemnation is caused by ourselves because we feel guilty when we
sin and then we feel condemned. Not because Christ has condemned us as there is no condemnation in Christ for those who
walk in the Spirit.

Psalm 141:5 Let a righteousness man strike me - it is a kindness; let him rebuke me - it is oil on my head. My head will not refuse it.

So accept correction from one another and say "Thank You Lord, you're are looking out for me"

 

[my_adonai_]

People are very judgmental, we only have to listen to the gossip which is all about what their neighbors and friends have been up to and without exception it seems they love to point the finger at others in judgement.

Now I make a point of not doing as others do, I simply get on with my life and leave others alone but I am unhappy that because I do not judge others you say that makes me immoral.

Now while I do not judge others, I do judge myself and modify my thoughts and deeds accordingly so as to reduce the bad and increase the good in myself and that has to be a good thing surely. I also do not like being compared to a cat, carrot or a rock thank you very much.

pointing out the truth in other peoples' lives through the eyes and love of GOD.. is this not righteous judgement?

 

[piper27]

What does God command us to do? Love one another. We are instructed to 'go and preach the gospel'.
What is the gospel? the Good News.
Does shaming (judging) people cause them to turn and repent?
Or does love, and the Holy Spirit at work do a much better job.
We really need to be careful to do what God asks us to do, and not take over for him.
He is better at it anyway.

 

[my_adonai_]

We have to judge objectively and not subjectively.

If I were a pastor/teacher and I see someone in sin continuously, out of the love of my heart
for the brother/sister in Christ, I judge his/her actions according to the bible and therefore
need to speak to this person to direct them onto the right path. Is this correct? Of course, as a pastor,
I am accountable to God as this person is under my care.

If I were not holding any office and am just a brother/sister in Christ, still we need to
do what the pastor does. We all should carry each other's burdens and help each other
according to the word of God.
Look at Paul when he rebuked Peter

The problem is that many have alot of pride in their hearts and cannot accept correction from another brother and therefore many refrain from doing this.

I remember a sweet elderly brother in Christ. He went forward to another brother and spoke to him.
And this brother was so angry and said to him to take the plank out of his eye before trying to take the speck out of his.

It seems this is the verse that is used often for a situation like this. If everyone uses this, then no one will
be correcting anyone because all of us have some fault or other in our lives as long as we live in this world.

We should have a humble heart and and correct one another so that we can grow and get rid of sin that tries to
grip us and stagnate our growth in Christ.

Correction does not bring condemnation. Condemnation is caused by ourselves because we feel guilty when we
sin and then we feel condemned. Not because Christ has condemned us as there is no condemnation in Christ for those who
walk in the Spirit.

Psalm 141:5 Let a righteousness man strike me - it is a kindness; let him rebuke me - it is oil on my head. My head will not refuse it.

So accept correction from one another and say "Thank You Lord, you're are looking out for me"

Amen bro. loved this.....

indeed the take the planck out of your eye, is a verse MANY use.

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
for we know the the LORD said in John that we ought to JUDGE RIGHTEOUSLY not according to the flesh, and righteous judgement comes from the wisdom and knowledge that comes from the revelations and guidance of the Spirit of GOD(THE SPIRIT IS TRUTH).
if we judge according to the flesh we will too will be receive the JUST REWARD as the word says in
Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
and so corresponds to verse 2
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

and the following verses
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


Rom 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

thinking also that GOD is a respecter of person
the type of person above is a good example of the pharisees who indeed pointed fingers but NEVER considered their own deeds, justifying THEMSELVES of the deeds they did. and yet pointing out to others TO STOP doing SOMETHING they themselves ARE DOING.

we know in 2 cor 4:1 that the devil darkened the MINDS, meaning THEY WHERE NOT ABLE TO SEE CLEARLY because their very hearts WHERE darkened by deceit, pride, self righteousness that they could only see WRONG IN OTHERS but never in them.

the LORD warns HIM here that HE will judge one according to their works, and NOTHING gets passed HIM, Good OR BAD. and just as what the pharisees judged the people of israel on(the law), the very law will be used TO JUDGE THEM.

Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

and us being Spiritual and seeking not our Glory but the LORDS, and seeking that HIS WORD be shown truth and everyman a liar, will allow that HIS WORDS to be passed THROUGH US to others/ In correction, as chastens His children, and in exhortation. for either one to receive or to denie, but deep inside HIS/HER HEART knowing that they have received what is TRUE.

i mean consider this, it is easier to accept that Adultery is a sin, and when you know you do it, but due to compromise continously dwell in it. when a person comes to you to stop commiting adultery, the point of DO NOT JUDGE ME comes when you know YOU DO IT.

David knew HIS sin, HE even said. i believe people always know the sins that they day to day commit, willingly even.

 

[my_adonai_]

What does God command us to do? Love one another. We are instructed to 'go and preach the gospel'.
What is the gospel? the Good News.
Does shaming (judging) people cause them to turn and repent?
Or does love, and the Holy Spirit at work do a much better job.
We really need to be careful to do what God asks us to do, and not take over for him.
He is better at it anyway.

the message of forgiveness and TURNING AWAY from our sins. that is the GOOD NEWS.
it is what JOHN THE BAPTIST Did, PREPARED the way for JESUS CHRIST, through BAPTISM OF REPENTANCE

 

[piper27]

the message of forgiveness and TURNING AWAY from our sins. that is the GOOD NEWS.
it is what JOHN THE BAPTIST Did, PREPARED the way for JESUS CHRIST, through BAPTISM OF REPENTANCE

The word gospel - literally means

“good tidings,”
2 or “good news.”
3The Greek word euaggelion, which was translated “gospel” in seventy-four New Testament verses,4 was so rare in writings outside of the New Testament that it’s found only twice in the extra-biblical manuscripts we have access to. The reason for this is because this word not only meant “good news,” but it was actually describing nearly-too-good-to-be-true news. There wasn’t much in the world that was nearly too good to be true before Jesus came. But the biblical writers adopted this word because it was very descriptive of what the Lord did for us.
The Gospel is good news—not bad news! That definitely limits what we mean by the word gospel. Many things that aren’t good news have been promoted as “the Gospel.” For instance, quite a few people associate the Gospel with teaching that says, “You’re a sinner. If you don’t repent, you’re going to hell!” Now, these are true statements. There is a heaven and a hell, a God and a devil, and you will go to hell if you don’t repent and receive salvation. But even though all of that is truth, it’s not good news.

 

[Ariel82]

I believe you are to judge yourself and your own actions.

the only time you judge others is if you truly love them as you do yourself and would die for them. If you truly consider them a vital part of your body and you belong to the body of Christ, then it is good for you to judge justly what is right and what is wrong and correct the other person with love as God has corrected you.


However I believe it takes prayer and God giving you the right words and motivation to speak to someone in a manner that brings about godly sorrow and repentance and not anger, more bitterness and rebellion.

I don't think we judge others, just ourselves and those we truly consider part of the Body of Christ

if we truly have been grafted in then the same Spirit will be convicting the other person already and we are just giving voice to what God has said to all of our hearts about what is right and what is wrong. It would be exhortations more then judgement or condemnation.

 

[CDavid]

When a person says do not judge, that only GOD can judge when the scriptures clearly say

1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
or what JESUS said

Joh 7:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel.
Joh 7:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.
Joh 7:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?
Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

and what about what Solomon asked concerning this?

2Ch_1:10 Give me now wisdom and knowledge, that I may go out and come in before this people: for who can judge this thy people, that is so great?

Did GOD rebuke Him for asking wisdom and knowledge to JUDGE His people NO!!. He knew Solomons heart, HIS very desire


2Ch_1:11 And God said to Solomon, Because this was in thine heart, and thou hast not asked riches, wealth, or honour, nor the life of thine enemies, neither yet hast asked long life; but hast asked wisdom and knowledge for thyself, that thou mayest judge my people, over whom I have made thee king:

And what about in the church of corinthians where the things of the church, those who have ONE MIND, YES, the mind of CHRIST, who could understand EACH OTHER through the EYES OF GOD taking the matters of FAMILY unto STRANGERS yes the very gentiles. That they could JUDGE amongst themselves the very small matters.

1Co 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?



and when ye say that we are not GOD, indeed we are not but what do you make of this scripture?

Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High

and when we say we can not tell where a person goes to when HE dies, we will know in the last day. do not the scriptures say,

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

and does not GOD put before us

Deu 30:15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Where is this doctrine of Do Not JUDGE me?

i know the word of GOD tells me to

Eph_4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Chri

showing the fruits of the Spirit in doing so. that is LOVE is the fruit of Spirit

and what i can differentiate is that WE should not Condemn people but they who work after the flesh are under condmentation

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Have people compromised this much, that when we see a sinner walking in sin and because we are afraid to tell them that they will go to hell if they DIE that way!!. are we now afraid to call sin as it is? but rather sugar coat it making excuses here and there. compromising here and there

FATHER forgive me and everyone that has done this.

let us therefore

1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

and be sure that

Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

GOD keeps recording of EVERY DEED we do, we can not run from HIM, nor HIDE from HIM, nor escape HIM nor say HE can not see me here.
we can only surrender not out of necessity NOR grudgingly but WILLINGLY.
Rev_20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev_20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.



indeed we should

Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
Gal 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

being sure that life is BLACK OR WHITE, none in between

so i say this, that i can JUDGE through the wisdom and knowledge that GOD gives me and the word HE puts in my heart to tell someone
but i can not say YOU ARE DESTINED FOR HELL(condemn someone) and THERE IS NO WAY OUT FOR YOU for that will be Abusing the Message of the CROSS.
condemnation is something, someone puts on themselves through their own deeds

Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Verse 18 says because HE IS NOT BELIEVED IN the name of the only begotten Son of GOD.
how so?
Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

HIS NAME IS SALVATION,and we must believe in it to be SAVED.

AND IT ALL STARTS with a CHANGE OF MIND.

GOD BLESS YOU EVERYONE
THE LORD IS SOON COMING, I PRAY THAT WE ALL WILL BE READY.

If our response to sin is scriptural, we are allowing Gods word to judge the sinner. By allowing the word of God to judge, we are allowing God to be the judge.
God gave us 10 commands, and the breaking of any one of these commands is, as defined by Paul a sin.
Paul instructs us to rebuke and reprove sin in season and out. (whether it is politically correct or not)
We do this, using Gods 10 commands as the reference.
Many Christians are considered intolerant and judgmental.
But there is great virtue in intolerance, and one of the spiritual gifts is discernment/judgment. What would society be like, if we tolerated murder, theft, public drunkenness, and all manor of sin.
And when Jesus taught us to judge not least we be judged, He was telling us not to judge others unless we are prepared to be judged by the same standards. Therefore, if we are innocent of the sin in question, and we allow Gods 10 commands to do the judgment, we are not only free to speak out against the sinner (rebuke & reprove), but it is our Christian duty to do so.

 

[Ariel82]

It reminds me that Jesus said that the words He spoke will judge them in the last days:

John 12

[SUP]47 [/SUP]And if anyone hears My words and does not believe,[SUP][i][/SUP] I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. [SUP]48 [/SUP]He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him—the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. [SUP]49 [/SUP]For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. [SUP]50 [/SUP]And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.”

we just speak what God places in our hearts to speak with love, even if the world does not recognize that exhortations can be given with love so that they might be brought to godly sorrow and repentance and turn from the darkness to the Light and be healed.

 

[sinless]

''Only God can judge me''. Translation=Let me sin in peace, I don't want to hear the truth

 

[justamazed]

''Only God can judge me''. Translation=Let me sin in peace, I don't want to hear the truth

Do you sin?

 

[homwardbound]

We have to judge objectively and not subjectively.

If I were a pastor/teacher and I see someone in sin continuously, out of the love of my heart
for the brother/sister in Christ, I judge his/her actions according to the bible and therefore
need to speak to this person to direct them onto the right path. Is this correct? Of course, as a pastor,
I am accountable to God as this person is under my care.

If I were not holding any office and am just a brother/sister in Christ, still we need to
do what the pastor does. We all should carry each other's burdens and help each other
according to the word of God.
Look at Paul when he rebuked Peter

The problem is that many have alot of pride in their hearts and cannot accept correction from another brother and therefore many refrain from doing this.

I remember a sweet elderly brother in Christ. He went forward to another brother and spoke to him.
And this brother was so angry and said to him to take the plank out of his eye before trying to take the speck out of his.

It seems this is the verse that is used often for a situation like this. If everyone uses this, then no one will
be correcting anyone because all of us have some fault or other in our lives as long as we live in this world.

We should have a humble heart and and correct one another so that we can grow and get rid of sin that tries to
grip us and stagnate our growth in Christ.

Correction does not bring condemnation. Condemnation is caused by ourselves because we feel guilty when we
sin and then we feel condemned. Not because Christ has condemned us as there is no condemnation in Christ for those who
walk in the Spirit.

Psalm 141:5 Let a righteousness man strike me - it is a kindness; let him rebuke me - it is oil on my head. My head will not refuse it.

So accept correction from one another and say "Thank You Lord, you're are looking out for me"

The discernment has to be between flesh and Spirit, and we are to be wise as serpents yet harmless as doves. And as in Ecclesiastes there is a time for everything and a place, for me I wauit on the call of my Savior to respond to wahtever or whoever, according to the leading of the Holy Ghost and so far it is and has always been out of love, no flesh anger, no malice and not in front of others to huniliate, only in private as the disciples said thay did confronted those that are not speaking truth the self has gotten in the way, which is what flesh just loves to be on top in charge, flesh has no humility at all

 

[homwardbound]

pointing out the truth in other peoples' lives through the eyes and love of GOD.. is this not righteous judgement?

We just need to listen and discern truth from error, flesh is very proud and boastfull so whenever you feel great about something it is a sign to me that my flesh is in the way

 

[homwardbound]

What does God command us to do? Love one another. We are instructed to 'go and preach the gospel'.
What is the gospel? the Good News.
Does shaming (judging) people cause them to turn and repent?
Or does love, and the Holy Spirit at work do a much better job.
We really need to be careful to do what God asks us to do, and not take over for him.
He is better at it anyway.

100% truth Sister

 

[sinless]

Do you sin?

No I do not