King James authorized bible vs the rest of other bibles

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I'm not trying to derail the thread, but trying impose the cross of Christ in a Christian forum. KJV1611 you know my stance on The KJV and IDK if you read other versions just check it back to the KJ.

Also, I will add what difference doe's it make about all these things. It's all about the cross, every word of it.

Guess y'all caught me on a bad day. But think for a minute, what difference does it make if I know what Ahaz, Ahab, Uzziah, David, Solomon, Jacob, Saul, Joab, Moab, Edom, Esau, Lot, Bildad the Shuhite (smallest man in the bible) did. What doe's it do for me and how will affect me. The only thing I find in the bible that affects me is the cross and nothing else.

Did Paul preach Jeroboam to the Romans, Ephesians, Corinthians, Philippians, Collossians . No He did not, reckon why?

They didn't read the bible, they had no bible. Just saying get a grip.
I've read your stuff, I know where you stand and I highly respect you. I agree that all the things you mention don't amount to a hill of beans as far as salvation goes. But does a Christian have to talk about water baptism and works salvation all the time ( I don't mean you're one of them). No we don't, we need to move on and get to the meat of scripture, but you can't eat meat until you drink milk first.... inerrancy of scripture is first and foremost because if you can't trust the accuracy of your bible then you have nothing to build on.

Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
 
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In the Old Testament, there are Messianic prophecies, Typifications of Christ (In the story of Joseph alone there are hundreds), and Pre-incarnate appearances would suggest otherwise.
That is a great observation but nevertheless you believe it was JESUS that was there when in fact it is written no where that JESUS was there. This is FAITH seeing the substance of things hoped for, evidence of the things not seen.
 
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Yes exactly Jesus came after them.... in the New testament. You know Adam all the way through the old testament God challenged certain people to similar bouts as Jesus went through. There were many Christ like men in the old testament but none of them were called JESUS.
Right they weren't called Jesus because Jesus was known as the "Rock" in the Old Testament. Jesus Christ, salvation through grace and all of the New Testament can be found throughout the Old Testament.
 
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Right they weren't called Jesus because Jesus was known as the "Rock" in the Old Testament. Jesus Christ, salvation through grace and all of the New Testament can be found throughout the Old Testament.
Jesus said he would build his church upon this rock. If Jesus had been the rock then Jesus would have said upon ME JESUS or something along those lines. I am remembering reading the word as it is written right?
 
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Jesus said he would build his church upon this rock. If Jesus had been the rock then Jesus would have said upon ME JESUS or something along those lines. I am remembering reading the word as it is written right?
God did not tell you that, like I said I used to think the same way because I heard someone say it or readit on the internet and it came back to me one day like some divine manifestation and that is not what it is. Someone made that up, it isn't written anywhere and it covers up a lot of the word that is written.
 
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I've read your stuff, I know where you stand and I highly respect you. I agree that all the things you mention don't amount to a hill of beans as far as salvation goes. But does a Christian have to talk about water baptism and works salvation all the time ( I don't mean you're one of them). No we don't, we need to move on and get to the meat of scripture, but you can't eat meat until you drink milk first.... inerrancy of scripture is first and foremost because if you can't trust the accuracy of your bible then you have nothing to build on.

Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
My brother, the cross is the meat and not the milk. No matter how much we study or how intelligent we think we are, nor how holy we envision our self.

It is the cross. No matter how smart or how ignorant. It is the cross. The best theologians needs the cross just as the heroin addict under the bridge does.

Yes read and yes study and find out how much you need the cross. Baptized or not.
 
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That is a great observation but nevertheless you believe it was JESUS that was there when in fact it is written no where that JESUS was there. This is FAITH seeing the substance of things hoped for, evidence of the things not seen.
No. There is plenty of evidence in Scripture that lets us know it is talking about Jesus without having to say His name. For that would be like saying you can't recognize your friend if you don't have him announce his name.
 

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Jesus said he would build his church upon this rock. If Jesus had been the rock then Jesus would have said upon ME JESUS or something along those lines. I am remembering reading the word as it is written right?
Could've, would've, should've. Greetings Jag; I'm not sure from where you are coming with this.
The Lord Jesus is the rock. Now if you don't want to find Him saying that in Mat 16, & if you want to make it be Peter (petros) not rock (petra), it still would not establish any "office of Peter" to be passed on in history. The Church is built on the foundation of the apostles & prophets (in another figure of speech).

But as for me, I am safe to the rock that is higher than I! The Lord Jesus.
 
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That is a great observation but nevertheless you believe it was JESUS that was there when in fact it is written no where that JESUS was there. This is FAITH seeing the substance of things hoped for, evidence of the things not seen.
It's all over the OT and the Word of the Lord came.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word......... and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

Brother, you missed it somewhere.

Maybe you should read the KJV.
 

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Anybody else got any supposed KJV errors?
Well 1611, what is your proof that the KJV is the infallible Word of God, instead of a translation of God's Word?

In the exact perfect sense, it is erroneous to say that any of the KJV is God's Word. The error is not so much in the translation (which is all it is), but in the heretics who want to make a human translation God's perfect Word.
 

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Re: The Authorized Geneva Bible vs that Modernist KJV, unauthorized!

There are two Latin Vulgates. One is from the corrupted church of Rome. The other is not.
As for many 1611 KJV Proponents believing the 1611 Bible is perfect:
I disagree with a lot of their conclusions on the KJV. I believe you can read Modern Versions. I believe it is not always easier to read the KJV; Especially in the Old Testament. For truth is not determined by popular vote.
What is the proof that there are precisely 2 vulgates?
 
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Oh now I see, attack JAG....Atwood, excuse me you fail to realize I am defending that very point.

And for the Jesus OT, I HAVE BELIEVED THAT VERY THING. Just like you fool yourselves with it right now, I have done the same and I am saying it lasted for years where I preached it with a megaphone. Do you think I have UN-understood what I truly believed for years? IT IS NOT TRUE!
 
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All I'm saying is. Paul went to Athens and tried to convince them on his intellect, Athens was known for it's philosophy and education. No church was planted there that was recorded.

Paul left there and went to Corinth. Again a city noted for philosophy and intellect. But, this time Paul said I have determined to know nothing among you other that Christ and Him crucified and a great church was planted. No doctrines, no views, No Ahaz, No David, No Moses, Just Christ and Him crucified. Thousands were saved and filled with the Spirit.

No bible, not compelled to keep Sabbath, nor to be baptized, nor to be circumcised. Just faith in the work of the cross.
 

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No Evidence that the King jimmy is the Infallible Perfect Word of God

It is a heresy to claim for a human work (KJV) the honor that only belongs to God's Word (produced in Hebrew, Aramaic & Greek).

And it is noted how no one has posted any proof that it is God's Perfect Word.
And I also have seen no justification for calling it "authorized."

You can go on just saying it, but you cannot prove from the Bible that the King James Version is God's perfect Word.
The Bible never mentions the KJV.
 
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Re: No Evidence that the King jimmy is the Infallible Perfect Word of God

It is a heresy to claim for a human work (KJV) the honor that only belongs to God's Word (produced in Hebrew, Aramaic & Greek).

And it is noted how no one has posted any proof that it is God's Perfect Word.
And I also have seen no justification for calling it "authorized."

You can go on just saying it, but you cannot prove from the Bible that the King James Version is God's perfect Word.
The Bible never mentions the KJV.
Where are the original Hebrew, Aramaic & Greek manuscripts today Atwood?
 
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All I'm saying is. Paul went to Athens and tried to convince them on his intellect, Athens was known for it's philosophy and education. No church was planted there that was recorded.

Paul left there and went to Corinth. Again a city noted for philosophy and intellect. But, this time Paul said I have determined to know nothing among you other that Christ and Him crucified and a great church was planted. No doctrines, no views, No Ahaz, No David, No Moses, Just Christ and Him crucified. Thousands were saved and filled with the Spirit.

No bible, not compelled to keep Sabbath, nor to be baptized, nor to be circumcised. Just faith in the work of the cross.
This is what I am talking about....."Christ and Him crucified" are you seeing this? Christ and HIM crucified. AND HIM!!!!! A>N>D!!! This is the message. Who is HIM? It is not HIM that is called Christ....HIM is used outside of normal use, HIM is a name in the bible. It is hidden by acting or being read continuously as just another pronoun. Who crucified Jesus? NOBODY! HE crucified HIM. Do your bible search, I know I am right because I have already done all the searching.