King James Bible ONLY? Or NOT?

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Why anybody use bibles that contradict one another? How can I be born again from corruptible seed?
Now you guys and gals know why I posted...

Gonna get some heat here, but here goes...

I think the KJV needs to go. It's antiquated 17th century language that no one uses today. The newer versions are written to better comprehend what was written. It has had a really good run, but now it needs to be tossed.

No other translation, that I know of that is, has caused such a strife amongst God's ppl. When one goes so far as to say the KJV is God's word preserved for us, then that tells me all I need to know.

Ducking for cover now...
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My problem with the KJVO stance is their superiority complex. It's like they cornered the market on the bible. Look at the Pentateuch for example. Moses wrote under God's inspiration, and then the scribes wrote from what Moses wrote. Then the other books were penned by the OT saints. And then scribes wrote from that. Then the scribes re-wrote from those, seeing that the copies were getting old and decayed. I can't imagine how many times the OT books have been written and re-written down through the ages. The scribes wrote so that ppl could have a copy of what the Prophets had written, seeing printing presses were not available.

And ppl have the audacity to say that the KJV IS the word of God? That's the very apex of ignorance.
Brother KJV1611 basically said all other versions are corrupted. That's a superiority complex at its finest.
 
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Why anybody use bibles that contradict one another? How can I be born again from corruptible seed?
Where are these alleged contradictions? Substantiate your claims.

What you are implying via your sectarian conditioning is that no one can be born-again except through the King James Version. That's outright false teaching.
 
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Now you guys and gals know why I posted...And also...Brother KJV1611 basically said all other versions are corrupted. That's a superiority complex at its finest.
And now we have this; there is no salvation outside of the KJV. Note the following quote that asserts this:

Why anybody use bibles that contradict one another? How can I be born again from corruptible seed?
But, he'll just say he was asking a question, which he wasn't. By way of question he is making an assertion that none could be saved by "corruptible seed*"

(*i.e. better modern translations)
 
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Where are these alleged contradictions? Substantiate your claims.

What you are implying via your sectarian conditioning is that no one can be born-again except through the King James Version. That's outright false teaching.
This is what that nut Steven Anderson teaches. He also claims God cannot save anyone who is homosexual. He's one of those Independent Baptist guys.

I don't know if you've seen his discussion with James White..pretty funny as Dr. White ended up walking away from him because he was so loony.

If someone tells me you can only be saved from words from the KJV, I automatically wonder if they're one of Anderson's disciples.

Other KJV Only people who are loony include Peter Ruckman (claims the CIA has implanted brain transmitters in the minds of the elderly, young and black people), Gail Replinger (no degrees in original language or even Bible yet claims she's an authority), and Kent Hovind. Needless to say I'm not impressed with those guys.

Here's the White video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJrptikLjq8
 
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And now we have "There is no salvation outside of the KJV."



But, he'll just say he was asking a question, which he wasn't. By way of question he is making an assertion that none could be saved by "corruptible seed*"

(*i.e. better modern translations)
I guess the Tyndale, Bishops and Geneva(older than the KJV, btw) bibles caused many to die lost, because they're not the KJV, and are corruptible seeds.

The very apex of ignorance.
 
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Now you guys and gals know why I posted...



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Brother KJV1611 basically said all other versions are corrupted. That's a superiority complex at its finest.
And everybody else on this thread says that ALL versions are corrupt. The difference between me and everybody else on this thread is that I don't believe the KJV is corrupt because I haven' seen the corruption.
 

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The above reflects a grave error in thinking.

Think the above fallacious statement through; Actual study of Scripture, word meanings &c means the person(s) doing so have made themselves into the final authority according to the above statement.

This leads to an illogical conclusion: Never exegete or attempt to interpret Scripture, give word meanings, tenses of words &c; simply read it only. When "preaching" read it only; as soon as you interpret or give the sense, you've become the final authority.

Bible-olatry does this to people and they come up with absurdities as in the above quote. The quote isn't representative of Biblical truth whatsoever.
The word of God is it's own dictionary. Use Scripture to interpret itself. The Bible student does not need to go outside of Scripture for clear meaning.
 
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And everybody else on this thread says that ALL versions are corrupt. The difference between me and everybody else on this thread is that I don't believe the KJV is corrupt because I haven' seen the corruption.
So, you're saying the KJV was translated error free? These translators, who used manuscripts that had been copied many times before, were translated perfectly every time?
 

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Brother KJV1611 basically said all other versions are corrupted. That's a superiority complex at its finest.
If your Bible does not contain all the correct words, then it is corrupt. Do you have a Bible that you can say without hesitation, "this is the word of God, every word can be trusted"?
 
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This is what that nut Steven Anderson teaches. He also claims God cannot save anyone who is homosexual. He's one of those Independent Baptist guys.
Brain washed for sure. Funny how he doesn't believe Scripture as Paul claims some in Corinth were saved who were, in the past, homosexuals. Note 1 Corinthians 6:11ff.

I don't know if you've seen his discussion with James White..pretty funny as Dr. White ended up walking away from him because he was so loony.
I've seen it. Being formerly a fundy Indepent Baptist (and out of place there) we had some of these who were brain washed in our midst. They would tell me how I needed to get Riplingers book 'New Age Versions" and read it because all other Bibles were of the devil. In haste I needed to acquire this book so I could know more about the devil and all his bibles.

I used the KJV and I passed on that nonsense. Of course her book is filled with lies. These same people were always on to some conspiracy, the devil was everywhere. For instance they pushed the Proctor and Gamble conspiracy around as well.

The markings on the NKJV was also of the devil, they told me it meant 666. I have a NKJV, nice Bible, never heard it hiss or anything, doesn't glow red at night, does not smell of sulfur.



The devil did this on purpose so we'd know it was his bible.
 
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Where are these alleged contradictions? Substantiate your claims.

What you are implying via your sectarian conditioning is that no one can be born-again except through the King James Version. That's outright false teaching.
New translations - Jesus is God's only son, the morning star fell from heaven, a son of the gods was in the fiery furnace, Ahaziah's age is wrong, a mark ON the right hand or forehead, the souls that came out of Egypt, the people are preserved rather than word of God... that's just off the top of my head.
 

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So, you're saying the KJV was translated error free? These translators, who used manuscripts that had been copied many times before, were translated perfectly every time?
It's amazing what God can do. Do you not believe God could use sinful man to preserve His words into English?
 
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If your Bible does not contain all the correct words, then it is corrupt. Do you have a Bible that you can say without hesitation, "this is the word of God, every word can be trusted"?
I trust the KJV, NIV, NASB, YLT, ESV, CSB...seeing I have all these.

Plus, I have the Hebrew & Greek Interlinears by the late Dr. Jay P. Green, Sr., as well.
 
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And now we have this; there is no salvation outside of the KJV. Note the following quote that asserts this:



But, he'll just say he was asking a question, which he wasn't. By way of question he is making an assertion that none could be saved by "corruptible seed*"

(*i.e. better modern translations)

Study the KJV and figure out the difference between saved and born again. I was saved with no bible, I used to read the NIV and I was still saved, I did not become born again of incoruptible seed until I started reading from the incorrruptible seed.
 
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It's amazing what God can do. Do you not believe God could use sinful man to preserve His words into English?
God has preserved His word in english, french, german, chinese, japanese, mandarin, koine greek, hebrew, braille...
 
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The word of God is it's own dictionary.
Oh, so Riplinger has taught you, and you're into acrostic-algebra.

Use Scripture to interpret itself. The Bible student does not need to go outside of Scripture for clear meaning.
Not totally true and you're making yourself the final authority, not Scripture - it is subject to what you say it means. Then the next guy, it is subject to what he says it means. And so on and so forth.

There are many passages that you could never understand properly without engaging what others have found them to mean.

For instance 1 Corinthians 11:2-16 concerning women and head coverings. There are many more.
 

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New translations - Jesus is God's only son, the morning star fell from heaven, a son of the gods was in the fiery furnace, Ahaziah's age is wrong, a mark ON the right hand or forehead, the souls that came out of Egypt, the people are preserved rather than word of God... that's just off the top of my head.
Don't forget the faith of Christ vs faith in Christ, David not killing Goliath, confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord, Jesus sends out the 70 or 72, crushed vs bruised, saved vs being saved, etc...
 
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Study the KJV and figure out the difference between saved and born again. I was saved with no bible, I used to read the NIV and I was still saved, I did not become born again of incoruptible seed until I started reading from the incorrruptible seed.
Huh????????

You were saved but not born of the Spirit??

#Wowzers

I will NEVER again say I have heard everything.