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You don't have to say it. When you type.... "future sins are forgiven you." Then you don't type.... "Believers must live holy and righteous or they are not true believers." Then you are giving people a license to sin. It's just that simple.
This is the common practice and teaching amongst OSAS or Antinomian teachers.
This is the common practice and teaching amongst OSAS or Antinomian teachers.
If you understood what being born again of the Holy Spirit is you would not make that statement. Only those who have not been born again of the Spirit can view it as a licence to sin. And there view is irrelevant anyway, because Jesus will be no ones saviour from sin unless they have been born again
Let's say there was a healthy plant supplement (with no side effects whatsoever) that people could take that would allow them to eat as much as you want and they will never get fat. What do you think people are going to do if they took this supplement (With them knowing it works)? They are going to eat anything they want. There are no more consequences involving their eating habits. That is what you are doing here. You are saying...
"Hey everybody.... your future sin is forgiven!"
Then you say nothing about how a true believer is defined as being holy.
So then a person is naturally going to sin with the thinking they are saved; Hence, they believe they have a license to sin. For if there is no major consequence in a person in doing the wrong thing, then there is no incentive for them to do what is right or good. For the Scriptures say, for the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and to depart from evil is understandiing.
"Hey everybody.... your future sin is forgiven!"
Then you say nothing about how a true believer is defined as being holy.
So then a person is naturally going to sin with the thinking they are saved; Hence, they believe they have a license to sin. For if there is no major consequence in a person in doing the wrong thing, then there is no incentive for them to do what is right or good. For the Scriptures say, for the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and to depart from evil is understandiing.
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Dear Michael 56:
I understand that a person obeys the law of love (Which keeps the moral law) because they have been changed spiritually by God when they repented of their sins and accepted Christ as their Savior. I already mentioned that several times here within this thread, my friend. But when you say future sin is forgiven and say nothing about how the believer should live holy you are teaching people that they have a license to sin. Therein lies the flaw with your doctrine, my friend. For if I tell a person just one small aspect of the gospel, it should not lead them down the wrong road (Like with your teaching). In other words, you have to fully explain your teaching so as not to mislead people. That to me is a fishy doctrine.
I understand that a person obeys the law of love (Which keeps the moral law) because they have been changed spiritually by God when they repented of their sins and accepted Christ as their Savior. I already mentioned that several times here within this thread, my friend. But when you say future sin is forgiven and say nothing about how the believer should live holy you are teaching people that they have a license to sin. Therein lies the flaw with your doctrine, my friend. For if I tell a person just one small aspect of the gospel, it should not lead them down the wrong road (Like with your teaching). In other words, you have to fully explain your teaching so as not to mislead people. That to me is a fishy doctrine.
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Jason only a legalist thinks this way...real Christians don't want to sin and even if some do? We don't put them back under the law, you bring fear to their flesh. That's what Paul did, he never put folks back under the Ten Commandments when he dealt with sin in the church, he always pointed them to submit the Spirit of God within them.
There is no flaw in Paul's doctrine
THE PENALTY OF SIN BRINGS GREAT FEAR OF SIN AND FEAR OF SIN BRINGS MUCH ALLUREMENT TO SIN. Christ died to pay the penalty of your sin and to remove the power of sin from your life, and the power of sin is the penalty attached to the law if you break it.
If I said to you, “If you think of a pinkrabbit, God will condemn you to hell,” what is the first thing you will thinkof if you believe me? You would try desperately never to think of such acreature, wouldn’t you? You would become agitated at the thought of a pinkrabbit. You would be, animated, overwrought, disturbed, nervous, and panicstricken at the thought of the creature. You would end up in a frenzied stateconcerning it, I imagine. Now the more these emotions overcome you concerningthe creature, the more the thought of the creature will overwhelm you; it willbecome irresistible. You see, however, as you know there is no penalty ofcondemnation in place if you think of a pink rabbit, you will not get worked upabout it, will you? Paul states Romans 7:5-6:
For when we were in the realm of the flesh, thesinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruitfor death.[SUP] [/SUP]But now, by dying to what once bound us, we havebeen released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, andnot in the old way of the written code. (NIV)
Paul tells us the lawarouses sinful passions in us when we live under it. For he goes on to say wedie to the law − we have been released from the law (of righteousness) asChristians and serve in the new way of the Spirit, not the old way of thewritten code (the law). Why does he say thelaw arouses sinful passions for those living under it?
Well, you see, the same emotions that wouldovercome you at the thought of a pink rabbit, if you believed such thoughtscould condemn you, would also overcome you where sin is concerned if you liveunder the law. The penalty for sin is in place if you live under the law, isn’tit? Your sin, therefore can condemn you to hell. You would be extremelyagitated at the thought of sin. You would be animated, overwrought, disturbed,nervous, and panic stricken at the thought of sin. Now the more these emotions concerningsin overcome you, the more sin will overwhelm you, and the more your ability toresist sin will weaken. Why is this? Because those emotions bring you to anexcited state, friend. They are all bar panic-stricken definitions of the word excite. And the definition of panic-stricken is “frenzy,” and the definitionof frenzy is “wild excitement.” Theemotions that result from your fear of the penalty for sin bring you to a veryexcited (or aroused) state where sin is concerned. If you live under the law, therefore,your fear of breaking it (sin) results in sinful passions being aroused in you.That is why Paul tells us the law arouses sinful passions in us if we liveunder it.
THE PENALTY OF SIN BRINGS GREAT FEAR OF SIN AND FEAR OF SIN BRINGS MUCH ALLUREMENT TO SIN. Christ died to pay the penalty of your sin and to remove the power of sin from your life, and the power of sin is the penalty attached to the law if you break it.
If I said to you, “If you think of a pinkrabbit, God will condemn you to hell,” what is the first thing you will thinkof if you believe me? You would try desperately never to think of such acreature, wouldn’t you? You would become agitated at the thought of a pinkrabbit. You would be, animated, overwrought, disturbed, nervous, and panicstricken at the thought of the creature. You would end up in a frenzied stateconcerning it, I imagine. Now the more these emotions overcome you concerningthe creature, the more the thought of the creature will overwhelm you; it willbecome irresistible. You see, however, as you know there is no penalty ofcondemnation in place if you think of a pink rabbit, you will not get worked upabout it, will you? Paul states Romans 7:5-6:
For when we were in the realm of the flesh, thesinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruitfor death.[SUP] [/SUP]But now, by dying to what once bound us, we havebeen released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, andnot in the old way of the written code. (NIV)
Paul tells us the lawarouses sinful passions in us when we live under it. For he goes on to say wedie to the law − we have been released from the law (of righteousness) asChristians and serve in the new way of the Spirit, not the old way of thewritten code (the law). Why does he say thelaw arouses sinful passions for those living under it?
Well, you see, the same emotions that wouldovercome you at the thought of a pink rabbit, if you believed such thoughtscould condemn you, would also overcome you where sin is concerned if you liveunder the law. The penalty for sin is in place if you live under the law, isn’tit? Your sin, therefore can condemn you to hell. You would be extremelyagitated at the thought of sin. You would be animated, overwrought, disturbed,nervous, and panic stricken at the thought of sin. Now the more these emotions concerningsin overcome you, the more sin will overwhelm you, and the more your ability toresist sin will weaken. Why is this? Because those emotions bring you to anexcited state, friend. They are all bar panic-stricken definitions of the word excite. And the definition of panic-stricken is “frenzy,” and the definitionof frenzy is “wild excitement.” Theemotions that result from your fear of the penalty for sin bring you to a veryexcited (or aroused) state where sin is concerned. If you live under the law, therefore,your fear of breaking it (sin) results in sinful passions being aroused in you.That is why Paul tells us the law arouses sinful passions in us if we liveunder it.
As I said before. I do not believe all of the 10 are binding anymore. I also said we are not under the law. So stop trying to paint me as trying to justify a works based salvation system. I don't believe that. I do not believe we go out and do a work so as to be justified or saved before God. I believe we repent of our sins in order to get right with God if we sin. We throw ourselves down before God's mercy and grace. That is why it is not of works.