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Siela01

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Guys im sorry previously, but i want to know. God created us ,girl and boy. But why there's some people love with same gender and love both genders. Why is this happens? Someone told me coz love is giving #humanright. But that was wrong. Someone ask me " what do you think about LGBT? " i can't answer it. It was wrong but im afraid make people offended. And im stranger
Guys how do you think about LGBT? Why r God didn't notice, if thats wrong.
 

Demi777

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God didnt make same sex attractions. Its demonic, not of God.
He noticed and in the OT people got stoned for it because it disgusts him
 
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Guys im sorry previously, but i want to know. God created us ,girl and boy. But why there's some people love with same gender and love both genders. Why is this happens? Someone told me coz love is giving #humanright. But that was wrong. Someone ask me " what do you think about LGBT? " i can't answer it. It was wrong but im afraid make people offended. And im stranger
Guys how do you think about LGBT? Why r God didn't notice, if thats wrong.
Because nature either did something right, or something wrong.
 
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Amazing-Grace

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Guys im sorry previously, but i want to know. God created us ,girl and boy. But why there's some people love with same gender and love both genders. Why is this happens? Someone told me coz love is giving #humanright. But that was wrong. Someone ask me " what do you think about LGBT? " i can't answer it. It was wrong but im afraid make people offended. And im stranger
Guys how do you think about LGBT? Why r God didn't notice, if thats wrong.
Siela, God made woman to compliment man and as a union we are designed to produce a child - the next generation and this is how we know it is natural and normal for a man and woman to be as one in marriage. This is not to say a man cannot love another man or a woman cannot love another woman but that is not the same kind of love. The world due to the fall in Genesis is now messed-up, we see it everywhere in society where wrong is called right and people think that same-sex marriage or the sexual act between same sex's is normal and the world aided by satan is allowing this to be normalised. If you think about it why do you think satan wants this? It's because if everyone were "gay" the human race would not reproduce and would eventually be wiped out. Please to not buy what society at large buys because unlike us they are not of God and if they are not of God they are of the enemy.

God is not against anyone loving another person whatever the sex of that person may be but what He is against is the sexual act between same sex couples, it's all about self control.
 

CS1

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not sure what you mean but the issue is in the context of the word "love". God created both man and women and also every living thing that reproduces does so ; with one male and one female. The idea of a False narrative supported by those who too are self-deceived; into thinking this is in some way God induced. it is not. The answer to "what do you think about lgbt" , is formulated by the world view or maybe of a Christian world view from a biblical standard.

At any rate,
none these sexual preferences are ordained by God or accepted. To suggest that "love " has anything to do with any of those sexual preferences is a lie.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Guys im sorry previously, but i want to know. God created us ,girl and boy. But why there's some people love with same gender and love both genders. Why is this happens? Someone told me coz love is giving #humanright. But that was wrong. Someone ask me " what do you think about LGBT? " i can't answer it. It was wrong but im afraid make people offended. And im stranger
Guys how do you think about LGBT? Why r God didn't notice, if thats wrong.
[FONT=&quot]Genesis 2:22-24[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]22 Then the Lord God made the rib He had taken from the man into a woman and brought her to the man. 23 And the man said:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]This one, at last, is bone of my bone
and flesh of my flesh;
this one will be called “woman,”
for she was taken from man.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]24 This is why a man leaves his father and mother and bonds with his wife, and they become one flesh.

This should be your answer and do not be afraid to offend people with the truth. But do it with respect and patience. They like to say why do you judge me and your answer should be I don't judge you but this book the Bible Judges you.

James 1:19-20 [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] 19 My dearly loved brothers, understand this: Everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger, 20 for man’s anger does not accomplish God’s righteousness.

We see the very first textual evidence of men wanted sexual relations with men and how God ends up destroying the city because of the pagan sin and shameful acts were done against God.

Genesis 19:4-5 and 10-13
4 Before they went to bed, the men of the city of Sodom, both young and old, the whole population, surrounded the house. 5 They called out to Lot and said, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Send them out to us so we can have sex with them!”

10 But the angels reached out, brought Lot into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 They struck the men who were at the entrance of the house, both young and old, with a blinding light so that they were unable to find the entrance.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]12 Then the angels said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here: a son-in-law, your sons and daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of this place, 13 for we are about to destroy this place because the outcry against its people is so great before the Lord, that the Lord has sent us to destroy it.”

In Romans, we see that dealing with sin and lack of knowing God can lead people to pagan practices and shameful acts. God can be clearly seen all around for one who looks. Making no excuse for a non-believer to not at least acknowledge a creator.

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Roman 1: 20-22
[FONT=&quot]20 For His invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen since the creation of the world, being understood through what He has made. As a result, people are without excuse. [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]21 For though they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God or show gratitude. Instead, their thinking became nonsense, and their senseless minds were darkened. [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools.
24 Therefore God delivered them over in the cravings of their hearts to sexual impurity, so that their bodies were degraded among themselves.25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served something created instead of the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen.
26 This is why God delivered them over to degrading passions. For even their females exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.27 The males in the same way also left natural relations with females and were inflamed in their lust for one another. Males committed shameless acts with males and received in their own persons the appropriate penalty of their error.


28 And because they did not think it worthwhile to acknowledge God, God delivered them over to a worthless mind to do what is morally wrong.29 They are filled with all unrighteousness,[s] evil, greed, and wickedness. They are full of envy, murder, quarrels, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, arrogant, proud, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving,[t] and unmerciful. 32 Although they know full well God’s just sentence—that those who practice such things deserve to die[u]—they not only do them, but even applaud[v] others who practice them.

Never be afraid to stand for God. Always be ready to give a defense and if it offends somebody well good sometimes offending somebody will open their eyes. Jesus and Paul were sure not afraid to speak the truth in which offended many.



[h=1]2 Timothy 4:2Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h]2 Proclaim the message; persist in it whether convenient or not; rebuke, correct, and encourage with great patience and teaching


[h=1]1 Peter 3:15Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h]15 but honor the Messiah as Lord in your hearts. Always be ready to give a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you.


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Roughsoul1991

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To answer your question. Yes, the LGBT community is a lie and wrong. Stand now for God so that our future generation may know the truth.
 

Elisabet

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Yeah, they have the same rights indeed. They have the rights to live peacefully without any attacks from the society. They have the rights to work, eat, sleep, etc just like other "normal" people. But, same sex love isn't justified by the Bible

So, i guess we still have to uphold their rights. Respect them, befriend them, and show them the love of Christ. That's how they know that they're actually accepted by the people who were once sinners, but with the grace of God, finally gain salvation.

Jesus told us to hate sins, but love sinners (i forgot where this verse is, but my mom told me that it is in the Bible). How do we make them realise that what they do is wrong? We have to show them the love of God. How? By treating them the way we want to be treated. Remember, the Bible says that Jesus often ate with sinners. Why? because He wants to show His love. How can we expect them to accept Christianity (which says that LGBT are sinners) if we don't act like Christians are supposed to do?

Even when what you say is offending many people, i guess that's alright. Like what the Bible has said, we are lights in the middle of darkness.

So i guess as Christians, we have to uphold their rights by respecting them. That's how they feel accepted and loved. And that's how they know where true love comes from, Jesus Christ.

I respect LGBT because I want to uphold humanity. I don't support them because I am devoted to Jesus Christ
 
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Tintin

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Respecting their humanity, yes. But we shouldn't respect their evil agenda to destroy the family unit and society as a whole.
 
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God design for mankind is only to be between a man & woman to produce offspring. The LGBT is a perversion & is not of God. So love isn't the issue because as im sure you are aware we are to love everyone. However when the same gender engages in sexual relations with one another it is an abomination. Homosexuality only brings forth death. Many people who are part of the LBGT try to use "Love" as an excuse for their sin. Also you should try not to be afraid when addressing this to other people. As the scriptures says we are not to be ashamed of Gods word but rather proclaim it from the rooftops.
 

Siela01

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Yeah, they have the same rights indeed. They have the rights to live peacefully without any attacks from the society. They have the rights to work, eat, sleep, etc just like other "normal" people. But, same sex love isn't justified by the Bible

So, i guess we still have to uphold their rights. Respect them, befriend them, and show them the love of Christ. That's how they know that they're actually accepted by the people who were once sinners, but with the grace of God, finally gain salvation.

Jesus told us to hate sins, but love sinners (i forgot where this verse is, but my mom told me that it is in the Bible). How do we make them realise that what they do is wrong? We have to show them the love of God. How? By treating them the way we want to be treated. Remember, the Bible says that Jesus often ate with sinners. Why? because He wants to show His love. How can we expect them to accept Christianity (which says that LGBT are sinners) if we don't act like Christians are supposed to do?

Even when what you say is offending many people, i guess that's alright. Like what the Bible has said, we are lights in the middle of darkness.

So i guess as Christians, we have to uphold their rights by respecting them. That's how they feel accepted and loved. And that's how they know where true love comes from, Jesus Christ.

I respect LGBT because I want to uphold humanity. I don't support them because I am devoted to Jesus Christ
I know that, but God didnt like it. Thats reason why there's Sodom and Gomora. Its not about they rights but i just won't them die and go to hell.
 
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Yeraza_Bats

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Homosexuality is not about love, it is about sex. Sexuality is sexual attraction and participation, thats why its called sexuality.

Despite current teachings, we can live a healthy, even happy life without the fulfillment of sexual desires. These are things that can be ignored for the sake of doing right. Many Christians do it. And yes, many of them deal with stress and frustration, but I know someone who is openly gay who very much acts the same way, so dont let someone who supports the lbgt movement deceive you with such an argument : p

We can love our brothers and sisters without engaging in sexual acts with them. Jesus loved us enough to die for us, that included the men who followed Him and listened to Him. I have a male friend, I love him enough that I feel Id sell everything I owned just to help him if I needed to. But I know its wrong to engage in such behavior with him.


Those who do practice this lifestyle are following an urge to do this, of course its entirely possible for someone to form a strong attachment to someone of the same gender like they would with someone of the opposite gender, but that doesnt mean they need to do these things with them. Abstinence is not a horrible, life-destroying thing that we seem to believe it is : p

Dont be fooled by the love argument, we can love each other, but we dont engage in perverse acts with everyone we love. Just look at the people around you, they are either male or female. It doesnt take much to realize the two are made to go together : p Two people of the same gender together produces nothing and serves no purpose other than pleasing one's self. The fact that it "doesnt hurt anyone" doesnt make it the right thing to do. We were made for a purpose, and doing the wrong thing is the wrong thing to do, you are doing wrong by doing the wrong thing.You can ignore it for the sake of your own pleasure, but it can be held against you for doing so.

It is not hateful to stand for self control and abstinence. There are many people, even those who have come to the Lord, who deal with this issue. And yes, of course, its God's will to love them, and to support them if they are trying to do the right thing. But we dont support what we know is wrong. And you should know that if you tell people that doing the very thing they want to do is wrong, theyre not going to like you : p
 

Yeraza_Bats

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I know that, but God didnt like it. Thats reason why there's Sodom and Gomora. Its not about they rights but i just won't them die and go to hell.
Well, we cant really change this. Its entirely up to the individual to repent of their sins and come to Him. He gave His life to offer us this chance, but as we are told, "light has come into the world, but the world loved the darkness". Many many people will choose to please their flesh and enjoy their life over coming to Him.

But, you have your heart in the right place : p Its awesome that you feel so strongly about helping them. Never be afraid to share the word of God. Of course, that doesnt mean hate them, or be mean to them or treat them as if they are less than you. But sin is still sin, and we cannot be saved if we refuse to repent.

There are many people who have lived this life who have come to Him, so dont be discouraged. Its entirely possible. Dont be afraid to stand for the word of God. He loved us that He gave His only begotten Son to die for our sins, so that we can come to Him. He is calling His sheep out from this life too, and we should totally be there to help them through it.
 
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God stated that it was not good for man to be alone so in Genesis 2:20, He brought forth all the cattle, birds of the sky, and beasts of the field, and Adam named them BUT there was not found a suitable helper for him, it is this time that God places Adam under sleep and makes woman. Could Adam have found a suitable helper and if not why did God have him look to His other creations first? Could it be that WE are the ones that get hung up on the sexuality instead of the companionship aspect? Also God told Adam that for this reason father shall leave mother and cleave unto his wife, thereby everyone it seems thinks that made marriage pre-ordained by God, I have considered rather that it was actually a blessing unto Adam and Eve the same to be said of go forth be fruitful and multiply. Let me explain, if marriage was truly what God had intended and His plan, then why for this moment in time, and yet in the resseruction the Lord said there would be no being given in marriage or marriage? So if i believed that God had not been just blessing Adam and Eve and had actually intended and planned marriage, then i would have to accept that for some reason God changed His mind for the eternal which to me is moment of resseruction to forever.​
God does not change His mind, also what of the scripture of after the Lord said no more marriage in the reserruction where his disciples stated it is better not to marry....Matthew 19:11 the Lord replies not everyone can accept this word only to those who it is given. For some are eunuchs born of women, and some are made by man, and some are for the kingdom of heaven's sake, the one who can accept this should ACCEPT IT....so think on this if go forth be fruitful and multiply were a command unto all of mankind, how be it possible unless God intended then incest? God forbid! Rather this was a blessing once again upon those He spoke it too, like Adam and Eve, Abraham, and others. And what of these eunuchs born of women? Are they what we used to refer to as hermorphidite? or now intersex? Could this "anomaly" sort of speak occur because Adam had the potential to be either the man he was created to be or the female that was created from OUT of him? Also why are there no words in red that He spoke of homosexuality? ACCEPT IT, is what He stated in regards to eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake...for when we make love is it not spiritual? the so called world melts away and it is just you two right? How does it be so reborn new creature IN Christ, who is baptized by His Holy Spirit? That world that melted away, did Christ, and His Holy Spirit, along with the heavenly Father melt away as well, considering He knows every hair on your heads?. And why so much hatred towards the gay community for unalienable rights as man and woman for a just brief moment in time, and then also believe whole heartedly that in the resseruction those precious vows and marriage will be no more? Also consider it is a popular belief that the telling of Lot refers to homosexuality, again i have considered that i guess one could state homosexual rape since it was all men, but we don't refer to it as such we refer to it as rape pure and simple, i am certain that if they had accepted Lot's daughters, the daughters would not have been willing would they? Same to be said of the angels disguised as men, if Lot had turned them over would it been consentual? Of course not! just simply considerations if you don't mind brethren :) much love and blessings Father to those who read this and Lord Jesus to those who respond let their be You, kindness, patience, longsuffering, wisdom, charity, grace, mercy, truth, and love, thank you Lord Jesus my saviour, my King, my God.​
 
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Tintin

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Sondra, you sound very confused. We don't hate gay people, we hate the gay agenda. Standing against such an agenda is good and right and truthful and godly.
 
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not confused unfortunately i have witnessed first hand....that being said brother it is good of you to not hate gays themselves
 

OneFaith

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That's like asking "Why are some people attracted to murdering others?"- temptation to do evil, simple as that. Homosexuality is perversion, it's not natural, its evil. It is like other sexual evils- like being attracted to molest children, or practice beastiality. Soon people will probably be able to marry their dog or cat. In Romans homosexuality is said to be of a depraved mind.
 
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Guys im sorry previously, but i want to know. God created us ,girl and boy. But why there's some people love with same gender and love both genders. Why is this happens? Someone told me coz love is giving #humanright. But that was wrong. Someone ask me " what do you think about LGBT? " i can't answer it. It was wrong but im afraid make people offended. And im stranger
Guys how do you think about LGBT? Why r God didn't notice, if thats wrong.
Mankind has fallen into a sin nature. This is the same reason some people become alcoholics. Or drug addicts. Or any other sinful behavior. This does not mean that the sin is acceptable or right.
People of the world will not understand that. Some will be offended if you share that you disagree. But as Christians it's not our job to not offend people of the world though.
But things like this are why Jesus died to begin with. To be saved from our sins. No matter what that sin is.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I think a common denominator of much of what is going nowdays is that people are thinking "as long as both parts consent it is OK, no matter the act". This can then be applied to sex, drugs, euthanasia, SadoMachism and probably plenty of other things as well. ... so people forget that it is actually possible for consenting adults to make bad choices.