Mary the mother of my Lord (Heresy?)

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Dec 5, 2012
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Loved and full of grace are two different things. We are all loved, but not all full of grace. To be full of grace there is no room for sin.
 
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Loved and full of grace are two different things. We are all loved, but not all full of grace. To be full of grace there is no room for sin.
It was your definition I was parsing. How different are they?
 
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It was your definition I was parsing. How different are they?
I do not know what exactly you are trying to ask.

The way I understood your answer was that you are like the blessed virgin Mary who is full of grace. That you and Her are the same, no different. This is far from the truth, She is unique. Are you as blessed as She is?
 
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That is my point. Each of us is special in our own way. I never carried Jesus as a baby, but she never encouraged another Christian online. It's all Him. We are just the vessels.
 
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so we are all equal? Moses, Abraham, Elijah, Solomon, the blessed virgin Mary, the apostles, you and me. We are all the same?
 
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No, each in his own way. Graces are apportioned according to what you are created to do. A small cup can be "full" with less than a large one.

The phrase "full of grace" occurs only once in the KJV. That is John 1:14 applied to Christ, not to Mary. (pleris - completed, full: charis - grace) Mary is highly favored (Luke 1:28). charitoo, derived from charis, but missing the pleris. Full is a Catholic addition. As with the Eucharist, one can argue that this was the ancient interpretation, but as with the eucharist, the oldest records are not old enough to be decisive. Mary was highly graced. So were Moses, Elijah, etc., whether the angel called them that or not. If we are following Jesus, we get lots of grace too (Rom 5:17). In this respect, many are as favored as Mary.
 
Nov 22, 2012
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“Hail Mary full of Grace” (Kripa niranja mariame)

The prayer is said in the following manner: * Leader: Hail Mary, full of grace, * People: Our Lord is with Thee. Blessed art Thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of Thy womb, our Lord, Jesus Christ. O Virgin Saint Mary, O Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at all times, and at the hour of our death. Amen. “Hail Mary full of grace ,Our Lord is with Thee. ” –Luke 1:28 (Archangel Gabriel’s salutation to St.Mary) “Blessed art Thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of Thy womb, our Lord, Jesus Christ.”–Luke 1:42 (Elizabeth’s greeting to St.Mary) “O Virgin Saint Mary, O Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at all times, and at the hour of our death. Amen.” St.Mary is the perpetual virgin according to Isaiah’s prophecy and according to new testament. Jesus had no “brothers”. The “brothers of jesus” referred in Nt are his cousins. If Jesus had brothers, why was St.Mary left all alone after Jesus death. It was John who took care of her after that. She is the Mother of God. Since Jesus is God. She is continously praying for us all. She became the mother of the human race when Jesus says “Son, behold your mother”. Jesus first miracle in public life happens on her intercession. So we Orthodox christians ask her intercession in the last line.
 
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Jesus’s first miracle and St.Mary’s intercession.
The Book of John says Jesus Christ’s first miraculous sign was at the request or intercession of St.Mary.
“On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ mother was there, and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. 3When the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.” “Dear woman, why do you involve me?” Jesus replied, “My time has not yet come.”
His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.” Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons.[a]
Jesus said to the servants, “Fill the jars with water”; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them,”Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet.” They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine.
He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew. Then he called the bridegroom aside and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.”
This, the first of his miraculous signs, Jesus performed in Cana of Galilee. He thus revealed his glory, and his disciples put their faith in him.” – John 2:1-11
It is interesting that even the disciples didnt have much faith in Jesus’s powers almost around till his death.
Most of the time they were doubtful and not aware of his full powers. But St.Mary knew from the beginning what Jesus Christ was capable of. St.Mary tells Jesus that “they have no more wine”, a request to help them. Then she tells the servants “Do whatever he tells you”.
St.Mary knew her Son more than anyone. She knew God and trusted his infinite powers and she constantly intercedes for us.