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The true sabbath yes. I abide in my calling. If you meant Saturday no, that is also part of creation.

I labor to enter into that promised rest but you all won't give up money and burdens in order to do that yet.
How about the manna from heaven, and entering into His rest as God did His on the seventh day? You remember these things don't you?
 
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If a man and an animal are very much in love could they get married?
If a man chooses so who am I to say otherwise. He knows the consequences of his actions. I wouldnt but I'm not him.
 

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The true sabbath yes. I abide in my calling. If you meant Saturday no, that is also part of creation.

I labor to enter into that promised rest but you all won't give up money and burdens in order to do that yet.
Please elaborate on "true sabbath". And The Sabbath, has always and will always be about creation, so I'm not sure what you are implying.

Genesis 2:
2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

The Sabbath has nothing to do with Jews, I mean aside from God commanding them to keep it etc. It was God who sanctified it for resting from creation.
 

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If I love you, I won't kill you, steal from you etc. Those things only exist when we step out of love
Ok, so with this understanding you say you wouldn't kill me etc. Now, please explain the following verses.

1 John 2:
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.


4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.


6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

I think just-me provided scripture to show that he had established the "new" commandments way from the beginning.
 

vic1980

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OK, so I know there are quite a few who say that the commandments are done away with etc, I would like to know how do you explain the following?

Revelation 22:


12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
1 John 5:1 Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him.

rooted & grounded in love.
 

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You are confusing the Commandments and the Levitical Law. Jesus fulfilled the Levitical Law with two new commandments. We are no longer under the LAW.
 

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You are confusing the Commandments and the Levitical Law. Jesus fulfilled the Levitical Law with two new commandments. We are no longer under the LAW.
I think the scripture I have presented is actually quite clear, and easy to understand. So therefor, I cannot be confused.
 

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1 John 3:23 This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

pretty simple.

How to love God.

John 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.


rooted & grounded in love.
 
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1 John 3:23 This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

pretty simple.

How to love God.

John 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.


rooted & grounded in love.
It's not pretty simple when we are being disobedient. How can we say we love him and not obey him ?
 

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It's not pretty simple when we are being disobedient. How can we say we love him and not obey him ?
It is pretty simple , i pray the Lord will give you understandning young sister in Christ.

John 1:11-13 He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. 12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

God bless

Ps: it is God working in the beliver to do His will, as he did his prophets of long ago.
 
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How about the manna from heaven, and entering into His rest as God did His on the seventh day? You remember these things don't you?
Jesus taught what the story truly meant when He said He was the true manna sent. The manna before Him was the words of the prophets like Moses whom the people ate and died. The 7th day according to the commandment starts with the worldwide economic collapse. Then manna is not to be found in the field. We know this because God gave enough to eat for two days. We have more empty houses cars and food than we know what to do with.
 

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It is pretty simple , i pray the Lord will give you understandning young sister in Christ.

John 1:11-13 He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. 12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

God bless

Ps: it is God working in the beliver to do His will, as he did his prophets of long ago.
I appreciate your prayer but I can assure you I stand firm in my belief, and I as well pray for you to have spiritual understanding of the what The Word is really saying. No one is denying being born of God, but how can one say we are born of God and not obey his commandments. The scripture I presented earlier clearly states, one who doesn't keep his commandments is a liar. So from scripture I cannot accept what you have presented as the whole truth.
 
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Ok, so with this understanding you say you wouldn't kill me etc. Now, please explain the following verses.

1 John 2:
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.


4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.


6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

I think just-me provided scripture to show that he had established the "new" commandments way from the beginning.
There's nothing new about love. What was new was the "as I loved you". Christ gave an example of how to do it.
 
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Please elaborate on "true sabbath". And The Sabbath, has always and will always be about creation, so I'm not sure what you are implying.

Genesis 2:
2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

The Sabbath has nothing to do with Jews, I mean aside from God commanding them to keep it etc. It was God who sanctified it for resting from creation.
Have you noticed that the first 6 days ended? And the 7th In Genesis didnt? Rest from labors will never end. Christ's 1000 year reign will never end. Thus we are not looking for Saturday but an age. It starts with the collapse of the economy. That is God commanding us to rest.
 
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I knoe how to enter the gate, but we must enter in together as one in love. Otherwise we all go in by destruction.
 

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There's nothing new about love. What was new was the "as I loved you". Christ gave an example of how to do it.
Yes he gave a perfect example, but its useless to us if we don't follow it.
 

LEPIDUS

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I knoe how to enter the gate, but we must enter in together as one in love. Otherwise we all go in by destruction.
And actually its united in Christ. One understanding of his teachings will bring unity to the body Christ.
 

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Have you noticed that the first 6 days ended? And the 7th In Genesis didnt? Rest from labors will never end. Christ's 1000 year reign will never end. Thus we are not looking for Saturday but an age. It starts with the collapse of the economy. That is God commanding us to rest.
Please elaborate more on this.
 
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Please elaborate more on this.
Go to Genesis and read the first 6 days ended. "And thus the evening and the morning were the ___ day." You will find no such statement about the 7th. Only that God rested IN IT.
 

LEPIDUS

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Please elaborate more on this.
Have you noticed that the first 6 days ended? And the 7th In Genesis didnt? Rest from labors will never end. Christ's 1000 year reign will never end. Thus we are not looking for Saturday but an age. It starts with the collapse of the economy. That is God commanding us to rest.
I guess I was asking where do you connect The Sabbath, and the 1000 yr reign, age, etc.

Why do you say never end, but it says 1000 yr reign; what happens after the 1000 years?