Money in heaven?

[Tintin]

And I say again, how can greed be of any effect, when ALL IS GIVEN AWAY FREE!?

Only money breeds greed!

Listen to yourself! You're speaking nonsense. It's all well and good to say 'do away with greed' and 'give away everything for free' and 'money's the problem' but if it wasn't money, it would be something else. Humans are by their very nature sinful. You can't change that, nor can I. Only the saving grace of Jesus Christ can and while we're on earth, we're works in progress. Please save me the headache.

 

[SpiritofFire]

Have you not seen commercials where the man is on the plane starting and warming his car by phone. Turning his lights and tv on and disabling the security by phone? On while on vacation making sure the kids locked the doors and didn't leave the water running in the house, or checking to see if their kids even made it home?

All by phone!

But we still cannot feed the poor.... Why?

 

[SpiritofFire]

Listen to yourself! You're speaking nonsense. It's all well and good to say 'do away with greed' and 'give away everything for free' and 'money's the problem' but if it wasn't money, it would be something else. Humans are by their very nature sinful. You can't change that, nor can I. Only the saving grace of Jesus Christ can and while we're on earth, we're works in progress. Please save me the headache.

You seem afraid to even try.... Do you brlieve there will be money in heaven?

Can you at least answer one of the questions instead of hiding behind your own fear?

 

[4enlightment]

I'm just wondering how people view the basics of heavenly life.

But if you do not see money in heaven, what us wrong with trying to pattern our world here after what we hope it to be now?

Matthew 26:11The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me.

Matthew 6:10 your kingdom come,
your will ( Desire) be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.

Revelation 21:4‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

 

[Agricola]

I dont know why people are even bothering to reply to this thread... Oh darn I have just done it, there goes another minute of my life down the tube.

 

[Tintin]

You seem afraid to even try.... Do you brlieve there will be money in heaven?

Can you at least answer one of the questions instead of hiding behind your own fear?

No, I don't think there will be money in the New Heaven and the New Earth, but I don't know for sure. I'm not hiding from your questions out of fear. I'm not hiding at all. I just find you to be one of the most frustrating people I've ever met online.

 

[zone]

Using this thinking will never feed the poor. How about giving one of the millions of phones that sit on shelves to them for free instead?

you can't eat phones.
what good would giving them a phone do?

 

[SarahM777]

And I say again, how can greed be of any effect, when ALL IS GIVEN AWAY FREE!?

Only money breeds greed!

Why did God tell the Israelites to PAY for the food and water when they passed through Seir?

Deuteronomy 2

2 Then we turned back and set out toward the wilderness along the route to the Red Sea,[a] as the Lord had directed me. For a long time we made our way around the hill country of Seir.
2 Then the Lord said to me, 3 “You have made your way around this hill country long enough; now turn north. 4 Give the people these orders: ‘You are about to pass through the territory of your relatives the descendants of Esau, who live in Seir. They will be afraid of you, but be very careful. 5 Do not provoke them to war, for I will not give you any of their land, not even enough to put your foot on. I have given Esau the hill country of Seir as his own. 6You are to pay them in silver for the food you eat and the water you drink.’”

UMM where does the Lord ever tell us that it's all to be given to us for FREE?

 

[SpiritofFire]

No, I don't think there will be money in the New Heaven and the New Earth, but I don't know for sure. I'm not hiding from your questions out of fear. I'm not hiding at all. I just find you to be one of the most frustrating people I've ever met online.

Why? Because I believe that Tintin should not have to work merely for survival? Or because I believe this for those you may deem unworthy as well?

 

[SpiritofFire]

you can't eat phones.
what good would giving them a phone do?

The same thing as giving away the ample food we have that they CAN eat! Making peace between all.

 

[Tintin]

Why? Because I believe that Tintin should not have to work merely for survival? Or because I believe this for those you may deem unworthy as well?

BACK OFF, BUD! DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I didn't deem anyone unworthy. Also, hard work is part of the curse on creation at the Fall of Man. Or haven't you read Genesis 3?

 

[SpiritofFire]

Why did God tell the Israelites to PAY for the food and water when they passed through Seir?

Deuteronomy 2

2 Then we turned back and set out toward the wilderness along the route to the Red Sea,[a] as the Lord had directed me. For a long time we made our way around the hill country of Seir.
2 Then the Lord said to me, 3 “You have made your way around this hill country long enough; now turn north. 4 Give the people these orders: ‘You are about to pass through the territory of your relatives the descendants of Esau, who live in Seir. They will be afraid of you, but be very careful. 5 Do not provoke them to war, for I will not give you any of their land, not even enough to put your foot on. I have given Esau the hill country of Seir as his own. 6You are to pay them in silver for the food you eat and the water you drink.’”

UMM where does the Lord ever tell us that it's all to be given to us for FREE?

For the same reason Jesus paid the temple tax. As to not offend.

I know everything is for us to enjoy freely, but I will not steal it, nor judge another for stealing it. So as to not offend, I too must pay to eat.

 

[SpiritofFire]

BACK OFF, BUD! DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I didn't deem anyone unworthy. Also, hard work is part of the curse on creation at the Fall of Man. Or haven't you read Genesis 3?

You must define "hard work"?

Again we have many wonderful blessings of the things we made, yet it costs me $120 a month for basic cable alone. This is the toil and sweat mentioned in Genesis.

 

[SpiritofFire]

BACK OFF, BUD! DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I didn't deem anyone unworthy. Also, hard work is part of the curse on creation at the Fall of Man. Or haven't you read Genesis 3?

Do you believe all will be saved? If not then you deem some, if not many unworthy.

 

[zone]

You must define "hard work"?

Again we have many wonderful blessings of the things we made, yet it costs me $120 a month for basic cable alone. This is the toil and sweat mentioned in Genesis.

cancel your cable; use the money to buy food; make hampers and distribute them.
save a little of the money and make a garden...work hard in it every day, and distribute the herbs and mushrooms and veggies to the poor. and you will have enough left over to feed yourself.

keep enough money to buy tarps and something to build a shelter with, since you will want to give up your home as well (you'll need the money to turn into food to feed the poor).

but: if someone comes along and needs your shelter, you will need a ton of newspapers to keep warm.
so you'll need some sort of shed to store the newspapers in, since you no longer have a home nor a shelter.

if someone needs your newspaper blankets, you will be okay on the ground.

 

[zone]

Do you believe all will be saved? If not then you deem some, if not many unworthy.

patient, as always.

 

[SpiritofFire]

cancel your cable; use the money to buy food; make hampers and distribute them.
save a little of the money and make a garden...work hard in it every day, and distribute the herbs and mushrooms and veggies to the poor. and you will have enough left over to feed yourself.

keep enough money to buy tarps and something to build a shelter with, since you will want to give up your home as well (you'll need the money to turn into food to feed the poor).

but: if someone comes along and needs your shelter, you will need a ton of newspapers to keep warm.
so you'll need some sort of shed to store the newspapers in, since you no longer have a home nor a shelter.

if someone needs your newspaper blankets, you will be okay on the ground.

You are still thinking within the terms of a dead system. Why not simply give everyone free cable if U-Verse can now let you record 4 shows while watching a 5th!?

We do not need newspapers. Give everyone a tablet.

 

[Tintin]

Head meet brick wall. Rinse and repeat for all of eternity.

 

[SpiritofFire]

patient, as always.

And with patience, I do wait for it!

 

[Agricola]

you can't eat phones.
what good would giving them a phone do?

DOnt be silly, They can call out for pizza delivery.