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How about the Book of Habakkuk? it's only three Chapters.......and he is one of the Minor Prophets?
[h=1]Habakkuk
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1 .) The burden which Habakkuk the prophet did see.
2 .) O LORD, how long shall I cry, and thou wilt not hear! even cry out unto thee of violence, and thou wilt not save!
3 .) Why dost thou shew me iniquity, and cause me to behold grievance? for spoiling and violence are before me: and there are that raise up strife and contention.
4 .) Therefore the law is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth: for the wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore wrong judgment proceedeth.
5 .) Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you.
6 .) For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not theirs.
7 .) They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves.
8 .) Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat.
9 .) They shall come all for violence: their faces shall sup up as the east wind, and they shall gather the captivity as the sand.
10 .) And they shall scoff at the kings, and the princes shall be a scorn unto them: they shall deride every strong hold; for they shall heap dust, and take it.
11 .) Then shall his mind change, and he shall pass over, and offend, imputing this his power unto his god.
12 .) Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction.
13 .) Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?
14 .) And makest men as the fishes of the sea, as the creeping things, that have no ruler over them?
15 .) They take up all of them with the angle, they catch them in their net, and gather them in their drag: therefore they rejoice and are glad.
16 .) Therefore they sacrifice unto their net, and burn incense unto their drag; because by them their portion is fat, and their meat plenteous.
17 .) Shall they therefore empty their net, and not spare continually to slay the nations?
[h=1]Habakkuk
1[/h]
1 .) The burden which Habakkuk the prophet did see.
2 .) O LORD, how long shall I cry, and thou wilt not hear! even cry out unto thee of violence, and thou wilt not save!
3 .) Why dost thou shew me iniquity, and cause me to behold grievance? for spoiling and violence are before me: and there are that raise up strife and contention.
4 .) Therefore the law is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth: for the wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore wrong judgment proceedeth.
5 .) Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you.
6 .) For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not theirs.
7 .) They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves.
8 .) Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat.
9 .) They shall come all for violence: their faces shall sup up as the east wind, and they shall gather the captivity as the sand.
10 .) And they shall scoff at the kings, and the princes shall be a scorn unto them: they shall deride every strong hold; for they shall heap dust, and take it.
11 .) Then shall his mind change, and he shall pass over, and offend, imputing this his power unto his god.
12 .) Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction.
13 .) Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?
14 .) And makest men as the fishes of the sea, as the creeping things, that have no ruler over them?
15 .) They take up all of them with the angle, they catch them in their net, and gather them in their drag: therefore they rejoice and are glad.
16 .) Therefore they sacrifice unto their net, and burn incense unto their drag; because by them their portion is fat, and their meat plenteous.
17 .) Shall they therefore empty their net, and not spare continually to slay the nations?
Acts 19:17 ... the name of the Lord Jesus was extolled. ... 19 And a number of those who had practiced magic arts brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted the value of them and found it came to fifty thousand pieces of silver. 20 So the word of the Lord continued to increase and prevail mightily.
2nd Timothy 2:15) Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2nd Timothy 3:16 and 17 must be preceded by v. 15 to appreciate Paul's message........so:
15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 .) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 .) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
So, what's your take/understanding of these?
2nd Timothy 3:16 and 17 must be preceded by v. 15 to appreciate Paul's message........so:
15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 .) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 .) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
So, what's your take/understanding of these?
Let me give you a thought to consider.........look at this passage:
3:16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Now, consider that when Paul penned these words, the New Testament as we know it today did not exist........There was no collection of the Four Gospels, the Book of Acts, the Epistles of Paul and James and John, of Jude and Revelation......(did I leave anyone out?). And in my opinion we can conclude that Paul did not know that in the future his Epistles to the various churches would be placed together in one Book and become Holy Scripture.........SO WHAT SCRIPTURES is he referring to in the above quoted passage? I believe he is referring to the Scriptures that existed at that time, and the Scriptures he "knew as a child"...................The First Testament.........or, if you prefer, the Old Testament Scriptures.
Question: Does this alter our reading of his Epistles?
3:16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Now, consider that when Paul penned these words, the New Testament as we know it today did not exist........There was no collection of the Four Gospels, the Book of Acts, the Epistles of Paul and James and John, of Jude and Revelation......(did I leave anyone out?). And in my opinion we can conclude that Paul did not know that in the future his Epistles to the various churches would be placed together in one Book and become Holy Scripture.........SO WHAT SCRIPTURES is he referring to in the above quoted passage? I believe he is referring to the Scriptures that existed at that time, and the Scriptures he "knew as a child"...................The First Testament.........or, if you prefer, the Old Testament Scriptures.
Question: Does this alter our reading of his Epistles?
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Well, this was what I was trying to avoid, less things of this nature., and more scripture like what you posted from the Minor Prophets.
I look at your question, this way : maybe a over simplification , but God chose Paul, and God is the Author. Regardless of what Paul knew so much about what scriptures were at his time or would be, God is the one leading and guiding His own plans for everything that includes His words to us.
Also, factor in the scripture simply reads " All scripture from inspiration of God.". It factors in all scripture from God . We know that as the Old testament and the New that even has Paul's writings of Christ and Christs teachings of from what He contributed and was used by God as the others that were used by God to get His message together to us.
I understand people some times have legitimate questions about things, but this is the sort of thing i wish there was a separate Forum for. We could call it, "ramble about things other then what the scriptures teach forum"
something like that
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Well, this was what I was trying to avoid, less things of this nature., and more scripture like what you posted from the Minor Prophets.
I look at your question, this way : maybe a over simplification , but God chose Paul, and God is the Author. Regardless of what Paul knew so much about what scriptures were at his time or would be, God is the one leading and guiding His own plans for everything that includes His words to us.
Also, factor in the scripture simply reads " All scripture from inspiration of God.". It factors in all scripture from God . We know that as the Old testament and the New that even has Paul's writings of Christ and Christs teachings of from what He contributed and was used by God as the others that were used by God to get His message together to us.
I understand people some times have legitimate questions about things, but this is the sort of thing i wish there was a separate Forum for. We could call it, "ramble about things other then what the scriptures teach forum" something like that
I look at your question, this way : maybe a over simplification , but God chose Paul, and God is the Author. Regardless of what Paul knew so much about what scriptures were at his time or would be, God is the one leading and guiding His own plans for everything that includes His words to us.
Also, factor in the scripture simply reads " All scripture from inspiration of God.". It factors in all scripture from God . We know that as the Old testament and the New that even has Paul's writings of Christ and Christs teachings of from what He contributed and was used by God as the others that were used by God to get His message together to us.
I understand people some times have legitimate questions about things, but this is the sort of thing i wish there was a separate Forum for. We could call it, "ramble about things other then what the scriptures teach forum"
something like that
Also it is called the BIBLE discussion forums, it is here for us to share are thoughts, views, intpretations, etc of the Scriptures.
praise be to Yahweh we have this opportunity, it will not always be so.
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if you find objection to his post, then I have no clue what type of discussion you really want.
there are plenty of posts about bible scriptures. they don't show up on the top of the page because not that many people are interested in posting in them, they get derailed or people get hurt feelings and just let the thread fall back to the back pages of CC.
you will see the ones that stay up top are from people who have time to post over and over and over again within their threads.
Typically I just scan the forums, read threads that catch my attention but respond to only a few threads.
I feel that my time is better spend pming people and having that one on one conversation about the Bible and prayers and their life.
there are plenty of posts about bible scriptures. they don't show up on the top of the page because not that many people are interested in posting in them, they get derailed or people get hurt feelings and just let the thread fall back to the back pages of CC.
you will see the ones that stay up top are from people who have time to post over and over and over again within their threads.
Typically I just scan the forums, read threads that catch my attention but respond to only a few threads.
I feel that my time is better spend pming people and having that one on one conversation about the Bible and prayers and their life.
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Ariel82 , I guess your right. I still find myself posting in many of the ones i dont really care for anyway.
But its a suggestion I just want more people to consider when they post. Consider starting Bible study threads or threads more along the line of understanding scriptures that are edifying rather then require more questions potentially turning into talks about non biblical topics. And we all can peek at those threads there now, and see how they go .
Just consider more Bible study for new Threads in the future .
But its a suggestion I just want more people to consider when they post. Consider starting Bible study threads or threads more along the line of understanding scriptures that are edifying rather then require more questions potentially turning into talks about non biblical topics. And we all can peek at those threads there now, and see how they go .
Just consider more Bible study for new Threads in the future .
I like this idea and I did this with Mt7 but it quickly fell off the first couple pages. I gave my thoughts on the passage and asked for others views.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/72176-strong-words-our-savior.html
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/72176-strong-words-our-savior.html
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How about these?
Psalm 19
[SUP]7 [/SUP]The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
[SUP]14[/SUP]Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.
James 3
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
1 Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
Psalm 19
[SUP]7 [/SUP]The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
[SUP]14[/SUP]Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.
James 3
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
1 Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.