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Stunnedbygrace

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I was thinking that there are some things that not just most, but all Christians believe, or they are not Christians.

Things like the deity of Christ, the Trinity, the Resurrection are essentials. And if people don't believe in them, well, then they are not "some" Christians but rather "not" Christians.
Hi Angela!
I knew God for many years before I understood anything about a Trinity.
But I had received His Spirit.
 
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KennethC

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Well, "most" Americans voted for Obama.... twice. That, alone, should answer your question.
What other choices were they given from the Republican party, and old man in John McCain that had health issue and had no idea what to do (not to mention veteran soldiers asking for his and Bushes arrest for treason), or Romney who only wanted to help out the rich by lowering their taxes and raise taxes on the middle class.

If the Republican party would have picked better candidates they would have won, but they choose a couple of lame ducks to represent them. If they choose another lame duck, we will most likely see our first woman president with Clinton !!!

I hope not but it depends on if the Republican party picks the right person this go around unlike they did the past two !!!

I did not vote in either of the past two elections because I could not bring myself to vote for the lesser of two evils !!!
 

crossnote

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No. Most Christians will be leaving but I will believing. :p
 
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If most Christians believe something, does that make it true?
Google "Athanasius against the world." There once was a man named Athanasius in the 300's A.D. He had the audacity to believe that Jesus was God in human form! The audacity! Who would be so foolish to believe such a thing?

Now we accept it.

Something is only true if it is really true. Opinion polls do not dictate truth.
 
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What other choices were they given from the Republican party, and old man in John McCain that had health issue and had no idea what to do (not to mention veteran soldiers asking for his and Bushes arrest for treason), or Romney who only wanted to help out the rich by lowering their taxes and raise taxes on the middle class.

If the Republican party would have picked better candidates they would have won, but they choose a couple of lame ducks to represent them. If they choose another lame duck, we will most likely see our first woman president with Clinton !!!

I hope not but it depends on if the Republican party picks the right person this go around unlike they did the past two !!!

I did not vote in either of the past two elections because I could not bring myself to vote for the lesser of two evils !!!
And, all the excuses didn't make them right either, just because they were in the majority.
 

crossnote

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Google "Athanasius against the world." There once was a man named Athanasius in the 300's A.D. He had the audacity to believe that Jesus was God in human form! The audacity! Who would be so foolish to believe such a thing?

Now we accept it.

Something is only true if it is really true. Opinion polls do not dictate truth.
It took Athanasius? Hopefully we accept it now, not because of Athanasius but because of John's inspired writing.

John 1:1,14 KJV
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

[14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
 
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Kaycie

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If most Christians believe something, does that make it true?
No, just the opposite. "Wide is the road that leads to destruction, and most enter through it. Narrow is the path that leads to life, and very few find it."
 
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Tintin

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Essential Christian Tenets

The Deity of Christ:
Jesus Christ being God in the flesh
Jesus being the proper object of faith
Deity of Christ
Jesus is both God and man

Salvation by Grace

The Resurrection of Christ

The Gospel

Monotheism
 

Stunnedbygrace

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But neither did you deny the Trinity either?
Too funny! I couldn't deny something I wasn't even aware of!
I was pointing out that I received the Holy Spirit but God did not immediately show me there was a Trinity. And I still belonged to Him.


It wasn't until after I watched a movie that depicted jesus' death and got really mad at God, sobbing and telling Him He could have picked a better way, that He showed me Jesus IS God.
 
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RobbyEarl

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New Here but Jesus is God and God is Jesus. Jesus said if you have seen me then you have seen the Father.
 
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didymos

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If most Christians believe something, does that make it true?
The truth ultimately doesn't depend on if or how many people believe. The Gospel is true regardless.

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life.
No one comes to the Father except through me.
(John 14:6)
 

crossnote

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New Here but Jesus is God and God is Jesus. Jesus said if you have seen me then you have seen the Father.
Specifically the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is the One True God.
Jesus is fully God the Son/fully man.
 

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Well, "most" Americans voted for Obama.... twice. That, alone, should answer your question.
Most black born again, spirit filled, bible believing, devil shoving, scripture quoting, tithe paying, christians always vote the liberal candidate. Blow me away it does!

And NO! Many Christians believe staunchly certain 'churched to death' doctrines without a smidgion of scriptural support.
 
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Txroads

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If most Christians believe something, does that make it true?
((pssstt..... Over here.... Behind the rock.... Long story... Don't ask.... Answer to your question...(looks around)......
Ain't no way.... Shshshssss.. Gotta go))
 
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I still think that if this is a real question that we need more information. My first thought went to the Nicene Creed or the Westminster Confessions of Faith. If that's the root of the question, then perhaps the answer is yes?

Still… too many missing variables.
I wouldn't go by Creeds, Confessions of Faith, Catechisms, Man made doctrines, etc...
We should be going by what scripture says, not what man interprets scripture to mean nor create and limit ourselves to "essentials."
ALL Scripture is what we go by for the doctrine that we need and is essential. :)

2 Timothy 3:16-17 NKJV
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
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Your question is so vague. I think that we need more information. :) Are you talking about doctrines, traditions of the church or practices and actions of most Christians? There are too many unknown variables.
It is intentionally vague, as it is not my wish to get into a debate about this issue or that issue. The question is what it is: If most Christians believe something, does that make it true? In other words, are there some things that most Christians believe that are not true?
 
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Is this a serious question? Seriously?
I'm wondering which side you fall on, regarding this issue. Are you one who believes that if most Christians believe something, then it must be true, or are you one who believes that there are some things most Christians don't yet understand? Anyway, it is a serious question. I believe there are things that most Christians believe, that they will someday learn are untrue.
 
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Is this a serious question? Seriously?
I'm wondering which side you fall on, regarding this issue. Are you one who believes that if most Christians believe something, then it must be true, or are you one who believes that there are some things most Christians don't yet understand? Anyway, it is a serious question. I believe there are things that most Christians believe that they will someday learn are untrue.
For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part;then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood. 1 Cor 13:12 RSV
 
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I agree....and I think when we see our Father and the Lord Jesus we are going to be shocked at some of the things we thought and said about Their true nature and Who they really are.

I'm wondering which side you fall on, regarding this issue. Are you one who believes that if most Christians believe something, then it must be true, or are you one who believes that there are some things most Christians don't yet understand? Anyway, it is a serious question. I believe there are things that most Christians believe that they will someday learn are untrue.