Mouldy Mary ?

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re proof = see Matt.16:19 - but being a heretic you think you know better and do not accept this and are not prepared to accept what the Church teaches but also reject what the bible teaches - wincam
 

Sac49

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He can't, and he knows it. He's just trying to lead people astray with his heretical beliefs.
Yeah no kidding but i cannot allow that to happen. I love God too much for that.
 

Magenta

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re proof = see Matt.16:19 - but being a heretic you think you know better and do not accept this and are not prepared to accept what the Church teaches but also reject what the bible teaches - wincam
Your beloved institution, known as the heretical abusive Roman Catholic church, is well known for rejecting Scripture and making up their own stories to pass off to the unsuspecting gullible masses they hold in bondage on fear of eternal separation from God.
 

blue_ladybug

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re proof = see Matt.16:19 - but being a heretic you think you know better and do not accept this and are not prepared to accept what the Church teaches but also reject what the bible teaches - wincam

The majority of us aren't catholics, so why would we want to accept their false teachings and beliefs? And Matthew 16:19 has NOTHING to do with whether Mary is alive or not. That verse talks about the keys of the kingdom to heaven, and binding and loosing what was bound here and there. I fear for your salvation, for you are seriously deluded.. You are believing the lies of catholicism..
 

Magenta

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For instance, it is mandatory for you and every other person who considers themself to be a Roman Catholic to believe the dogmas your popes proclaim infallible, even though there is zero Scriptural support for them. You are not free to simply accept what the Bible tells you. You must believe what the popes say you have to believe. The Truth will set you free, but perhaps you prefer bondage.
 
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The majority of us aren't catholics, so why would we want to accept their false teachings and beliefs? And Matthew 16:19 has NOTHING to do with whether Mary is alive or not. That verse talks about the keys of the kingdom to heaven, and binding and loosing what was bound here and there. I fear for your salvation, for you are seriously deluded.. You are believing the lies of catholicism..

so now the lies of Catholicism is what the bible says - this is utter and total blasphemy and heretical and unforgiveable it seems - wincam
 

blue_ladybug

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For instance, it is mandatory for you and every other person who considers themself to be a Roman Catholic to believe the dogmas your popes proclaim infallible, even though there is zero Scriptural support for them. You are not free to simply accept what the Bible tells you. You must believe what the popes say you have to believe. The Truth will set you free, but perhaps you prefer bondage.
He's a heretic, spouting ridiculous heretical beliefs.. He even claims Jesus had no other brothers, when clearly the bible says he did..
 
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this is getting past bizarre

something's wrong past Catholicism

maybe consider that
 

blue_ladybug

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so now the lies of Catholicism is what the bible says - this is utter and total blasphemy and heretical and unforgiveable it seems - wincam
The lies of catholicism come from satan, NOT the bible. Matthew 16:19 has nothing to do with your fallacious belief that Mary is still alive.. THAT is what is utter and total blasphemy and heretical.. :/
 

Dino246

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so now the lies of Catholicism is what the bible says - this is utter and total blasphemy and heretical and unforgiveable it seems - wincam
Since you seem so keen to throw these words around, you must know well what they mean. So... what is the meaning of "blasphemy"? What is the meaning of "heretical"? Why would you bother adding "it seems" to "unforgiveable"... are you unsure of your position (which of course is unbiblical, as only one sin is described therein as unforgiveable, or didn't you know that?).

Your out-of-context comments don't help your case. If you are referring to a specific statement, quote it so that we can understand you.

Another thought... since, according to you, there is so much "utter and total blasphemy" on this forum, why are you here? Surely you are sinning by associating with such heinous unregenerate sinners such as us?
 

blue_ladybug

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Since you seem so keen to throw these words around, you must know well what they mean. So... what is the meaning of "blasphemy"? What is the meaning of "heretical"? Why would you bother adding "it seems" to "unforgiveable"... are you unsure of your position (which of course is unbiblical, as only one sin is described therein as unforgiveable, or didn't you know that?).

Your out-of-context comments don't help your case. If you are referring to a specific statement, quote it so that we can understand you.

Another thought... since, according to you, there is so much "utter and total blasphemy" on this forum, why are you here? Surely you are sinning by associating with such heinous unregenerate sinners such as us?

nah, we're only heretics and blasphemers because we won't believe his ridiculous and unfounded claims.. :rolleyes:
 
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it seems for Protestants Mary is as mouldy as their communion bread prone to mould and decay - what is glibly overlooked is that both when impregnated by God become manna from heaven and the bread of life - her flesh freely offered and impregnated was as incorrupt as His flesh - she could not and therefore did not die imho - wincam
I have tremendous respect for Mary. She was a virgin, yet allowed herself to become impregnated with Jesus Christ.
 

Sac49

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So wincam where is your Biblical proof that Mary didnt die?
 
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Why is it so important to Catholic's about what happened to Mary? I mean it's like making a mountain out of a mole hill. The bible did not make a God out of Mary as she was only mentioned a couple of times.
 
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We all must understand the Catholics had walked away from God when in 1854 the Catholic Church proclaimed that Mary was born without sin.

Show us where in the Scriptures does God ever say Mary was without sin wincam?

How can you wincam ever claim you are a Child of God when you see nothing wrong with Praying to Mary as your God?

In the Catholic Church today Mary reigns supreme above God. Its Mary the Catholics go to for help. Its Mary the Catholics go to when they need something. Its Mary the Catholics go to when they want forgiveness for their sins.

Mary is First and foremost in the lives of the Catholics. This is why wincam attacks all True Christians. If you notice wincam throws a lot out there with absolutely no Scriptures to back up his claim.

You really need to repent of your sins wincam and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Reject Mary. Reject the Catholic Church.

I too was caught up in the Corrupted Catholic Church. I too Worshiped Mary. I was brought out of the Catholic Church by Jesus Himself! He came seeking me and He found me! I left the Catholic Church, joined a True Christian Church, accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior and was re-Baptized in the True Church!

You too wincam can find Jesus. All you have to do is accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and stop Praying to Mary and you to can enter into Heaven with me!
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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it seems for Protestants Mary is as mouldy as their communion bread prone to mould and decay - what is glibly overlooked is that both when impregnated by God become manna from heaven and the bread of life - her flesh freely offered and impregnated was as incorrupt as His flesh - she could not and therefore did not die imho - wincam
the bible states that -jesus- is the bread of life...not mary... mary is already blessed enough that we do not need to give her additional titles that are reserved for others...

there is also no evidence that mary's flesh was incorrupt...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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the question of how mary's earthly life ended is a more interesting one...

the roman catholic church teaches a doctrine called the 'assumption of mary' and the eastern churches teach a similar doctrine called the 'dormition of the mother of God'...

this doctrine teaches that mary died and her body was translated directly to heaven...wincam appears to be mistaken in believing that this doctrine requires that mary did not die...in fact most roman catholic theologians disagree with that flavor of the doctrine though the roman church has chosen to leave it an open question...

the earliest references to the tradition of mary's 'assumption' or 'dormition' appear in the fourth century...the early christian writer epiphanius of salamis at that time stated that nobody knew whether mary had died or not...an unusual statement that reveals the obscurity of the circumstances of the end of her earthly life...

while there is no scriptural basis for this doctrine...scripture does not rule it out either...as scriptural reference to mary ceases decades before the close of the apostolic era...

an intriguing detail is the fact that no church...no matter how heretical...claims to hold any relics of mary...suggesting that the belief that no such relics existed was so universal among ancient christians that such claims were too outlandish even for heretics to make...

this is in contrast with the fact that many churches claim to have relics of the apostles and other early christian figures...

there is a 'tomb of the virgin mary' in jerusalem...where it is claimed that she was buried and her tomb was found empty three days later...but the remains of this tomb have not be subjected to serious archaeological investigation...

there are perhaps more convincing arguments that mary spent the last days of her earthly life in ephesus...where her 'son' the apostle john lived later on...

i think this is one of those questions where God has simply seen fit not to let us know what happened with any certainty...as truth belongs to God it is his to either reveal or leave unknown...
 
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Mary was born a sinner.
Mary sinned her whole life.
Mary died a sinner.

Mary is in the grave.

End of story.
 
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Mary was born a sinner.
Mary sinned her whole life.
Mary died a sinner.

Mary is in the grave.

End of story.
I will neither judge nor blame her. It's not her fault what others have done to her or her reputation.
 
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I will neither judge nor blame her. It's not her fault what others have done to her or her reputation.
What KenAllan said does not judge or blame Mary. It's simply stating facts that Mary needed a Savior, was not sinless, and there is no shred of evidence or biblical proof that she was "assumed" into heaven.

It's simply sad what the RCC has done to Mary and are now leading over a billion astray.