Muslims

[TriedByFire]

They only believe as they do, because that was what they were born into and what they have been taught most of their life. They are also loved by God. Jesus is visiting them in dreams and visions, and I tell you... if WE loved them as Jesus loves them, and we were doing God's will.. we would also be visiting them...

The Gospel is for all people. Those who belong to The Lord shall be saved. And muslims have turned to Christ Jesus. I'm only saying that they are not of the fold unless they are converted through Christ Jesus and by accepting him as who he is; The Only Begotten Son of GOD and Savior of all Mankind.

I would never support nor encourage mistreatment or showing partiality toward any man or woman for God is not a respector of person. He choses whom he will have mercy upon and those whom he shall make for destruction.

[h=1]Romans 9:17-21King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]17 [/SUP]For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?


[h=1]2 Timothy 2:20-21King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]20 [/SUP]But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.


[h=1]Acts 10:34King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]34 [/SUP]Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:


[h=1]John 7:24King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]24 [/SUP]Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

[h=1]Luke 6:31King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]31 [/SUP]And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

 

[TriedByFire]

[h=1]2 Timothy 2:19King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]19 [/SUP]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

 

[Jackson123]

How Islam Began - Fred Donner - YouTube

This history professor from Chicago university said that the document about Islam available is about 200 years after Mohammad. In the historical perspective it is not so accurate

Walter J Veith Islam Catholic Connection 1 - YouTube

Professor Walter J Veith believe Muslim created by Catholic. To take over Jerusalem. Catholic didn't want do by it self to cover the real agenda, so they create islam. That why it is easy to understand that bible story is in the Quran.

 

[solique]

The muslims respect all the prophets because all the prophets were sent by God almighty for the guidance of human beings.But muslims believe in one God and the last prophet(pbuh)..yes we respect the prophet christ(pbuh).because he (pbuh) were prophet of God and his mother were a pious woman.....If we r waiting for the arrival of prophet christ(pbuh) it is because he were called by God alive...and he has to come on earth again to complete his life...and he will ask the people to prepare for the
judgement day and believe in one God..........he will b on muslims side.Because all the relegions asked people to believe in oneGod.........
we r waiting for his arrival because he will kill the antichrist.....

Hi Fozi,

Years ago I was really drawn to Islam though I was raised as a Christian. I learned heaps, and till this day respect Muslims. However, one night, I was listening to a Muslim audio on Jesus, a sermon being made by a Muslim man. He repeated that God has no Son... and laughed at those who believe God has a Son. I made the decision then that I could not be a Muslim, becuse I could not deny God's SON, Jesus Christ.

I understand that Islam has not been taught truth, and I also understand that if Christians hold truth, and confess to follow Christ, how come only 1% are in Middle Eastern countries? Jesus told us to go out into ALL the world. So when I learned that Jesus is appearing to Muslims in dreams and visions, I could see why. I believe that Jesus is coming soon, and the sign of this today has been the dreams, visions and visitations of Jesus to Muslims.

The Scriptures say in Joel 2:28-32:

"And it shall come to pass afterward,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh;
your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
your old men shall dream dreams,
and your young men shall see visions.
Even on the male and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit.
“And I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke. The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes. And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those who escape, as the LORD has said, and among the survivors shall be those whom the LORD calls."

So, if the Spirit of God will be poured out on all flesh, and sons and daughters, and old and young men will see dreams and visions... then Google "dreams and visions of Jesus" and the first pages show that it is Muslims who are having dreams and visions, and they are having dreams and visions of Jesus (Isa)! Now I can understand WHY. Because Muslims have not heard the truth, and if those of the West are anything to go by.. it can be understandable why Muslims don't want to trust them and what they teach and believe (It has got pretty messed up).

Regarding Jesus' return... Muslim and many Christians I believe have this wrong. A majority of Christians, like Muslims, believe that Jesus will sit on a throne in Jerusalem, and rule this present world. Some if not most even go on to claim there will be money, cars, shops, and what not. But you see, I believe this future event will be the false return of Christ, the world deceiver. Perhaps that world deceiver will come from the heavens (projected imagery?) and destroy some future world tyrant, and appear to be the savior. I know when Jesus returns, I know that He comes as a thief, and that the heavens and earth will pass away in fire, and that only some will survive, and those who survive will rise to meet Him in the air.

Also an error of Islam is saying that Christ did not die, and will soon come back, live out his life, then die. My friend... Jesus was truly DEAD. He was RISEN FROM THE DEAD. He ascended to heaven, and is now "seated at God's right hand"... and will come again.

Um.... lot's more to say, but I will leave it there for now. I hope and pray that Jesus will visit you!! Just block everything out, and pray to God for His truth.

 

[solique]

The Gospel is for all people. Those who belong to The Lord shall be saved. And muslims have turned to Christ Jesus. I'm only saying that they are not of the fold unless they are converted through Christ Jesus and by accepting him as who he is; The Only Begotten Son of GOD and Savior of all Mankind.

I would never support nor encourage mistreatment or showing partiality toward any man or woman for God is not a respector of person. He choses whom he will have mercy upon and those whom he shall make for destruction.

[h=1]Romans 9:17-21King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]17 [/SUP]For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?


[h=1]2 Timothy 2:20-21King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]20 [/SUP]But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.


[h=1]Acts 10:34King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]34 [/SUP]Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:


[h=1]John 7:24King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]24 [/SUP]Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

[h=1]Luke 6:31King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]31 [/SUP]And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

Yes, and also the obedient Re′chabites.

The Word came to Jeremiah and told him to go to the house of the Re′chabites, and offer them wine to drink. Now God knew that the Re′chabites were obedient to their ancestor, and never drank wine, and they refused to drink the wine offered to them. Then God said this:

“Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Go and say to the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, Will you not receive instruction and listen to my words? says the Lord. The command which Jon′adab the son of Rechab gave to his sons, to drink no wine, has been kept; and they drink none to this day, for they have obeyed their father’s command. I have spoken to you persistently, but you have not listened to me. I have sent to you all my servants the prophets, sending them persistently, saying, ‘Turn now every one of you from his evil way, and amend your doings, and do not go after other gods to serve them, and then you shall dwell in the land which I gave to you and your fathers.’ But you did not incline your ear or listen to me. The sons of Jon′adab the son of Rechab have kept the command which their father gave them, but this people has not obeyed me. Therefore, thus says the Lord, the God of hosts, the God of Israel: Behold, I am bringing on Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them; because I have spoken to them and they have not listened, I have called to them and they have not answered.”

But to the house of the Re′chabites Jeremiah said, “Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Because you have obeyed the command of Jon′adab your father, and kept all his precepts, and done all that he commanded you, therefore thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Jon′adab the son of Rechab shall never lack a man to stand before me.”
(Jeremiah 35).

 

[TriedByFire]

Yes, and also the obedient Re′chabites.

The Word came to Jeremiah and told him to go to the house of the Re′chabites, and offer them wine to drink. Now God knew that the Re′chabites were obedient to their ancestor, and never drank wine, and they refused to drink the wine offered to them. Then God said this:

“Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Go and say to the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, Will you not receive instruction and listen to my words? says the Lord. The command which Jon′adab the son of Rechab gave to his sons, to drink no wine, has been kept; and they drink none to this day, for they have obeyed their father’s command. I have spoken to you persistently, but you have not listened to me. I have sent to you all my servants the prophets, sending them persistently, saying, ‘Turn now every one of you from his evil way, and amend your doings, and do not go after other gods to serve them, and then you shall dwell in the land which I gave to you and your fathers.’ But you did not incline your ear or listen to me. The sons of Jon′adab the son of Rechab have kept the command which their father gave them, but this people has not obeyed me. Therefore, thus says the Lord, the God of hosts, the God of Israel: Behold, I am bringing on Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them; because I have spoken to them and they have not listened, I have called to them and they have not answered.”

But to the house of the Re′chabites Jeremiah said, “Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Because you have obeyed the command of Jon′adab your father, and kept all his precepts, and done all that he commanded you, therefore thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Jon′adab the son of Rechab shall never lack a man to stand before me.”
(Jeremiah 35).

Yes, Israel has played the harlot many times, but God is faithful to his covenant with Abraham. The tribes of Israel have been counted in the book of Revelation as to how many from each tribe shall be saved. And based on the numbers, very few shall be saved. This being said, because of the hardening of the Jews, the gentiles are now given a window of opportunity to receive The Word of God (Christ Jesus (Yeshua)) and be saved. However, the olive tree is still in tact, only some of the branches have been removed so the gentile branches can be grafted in.

[h=1]Romans 11:25King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]25 [/SUP]For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.


[h=1]Romans 11:17-24King James Version (KJV)[/h][SUP]17 [/SUP]And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
[SUP]21 [/SUP]For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

 

[Bowman]

The muslims respect all the prophets because all the prophets were sent by God almighty for the guidance of human beings.But muslims believe in one God and the last prophet(pbuh)..yes we respect the prophet christ(pbuh).because he (pbuh) were prophet of God and his mother were a pious woman.....If we r waiting for the arrival of prophet christ(pbuh) it is because he were called by God alive...and he has to come on earth again to complete his life...and he will ask the people to prepare for the
judgement day and believe in one God..........he will b on muslims side.Because all the relegions asked people to believe in oneGod.........
we r waiting for his arrival because he will kill the antichrist.....

Even your Koran says that God will be against anyone who denies The Son.

Wake up...

 

[crossnote]

And happy Ramazan to my Cypriot friends There is a Monastery Apostolos Andreas in Cyprus where Muslems join the Christians sometimes to pray, as they have seen miracles there It is built on the site that Apostle Andrew landed in Cyprus. The turkish army and right wing, wanted it to fall down, but as 'concession' ( that means we'll loose more than we get) they are re-building it for the Cypriots

Muslims join the Christians to pray?
Let's see, no one comes to the Father except through the Son.
So who are the Muslims praying to...and who is their mediator?
This is ecumenical apostasy.

 

[john832]

Muslims join the Christians to pray?
Let's see, no one comes to the Father except through the Son.
So who are the Muslims praying to...and who is their mediator?
This is ecumenical apostasy.

Ah but the protestants and Catholics are ready to let bygones be bygones and unite. They have come to the conclusion that unity is more important than doctrine. Look into bishop Tony Palmer and check out what he says.

 

[RedTent]

God created Muslims and wants them to be in His family. Muslims say no, they not only won't do that but they are ready to get rid of God's people and take over the land they were given.

Many of the individuals may not be God's enemies, but the worship of their God, Allah, is. They say that their God is another name for our God, yet their God has a different name and different characteristics and even ideas that are different. If Allah was God, then he wouldn't just masquerade as God, but you could recognize him by all his ways.

So we can wish Muslims could live with Christ, accept them if they want to come in, but they are not our family.

 

[Osiyo]

Yes it is true that the Koran says that Jesus is not the son of God, but it does say in many places that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary.

To get around this contradiction the Imams teach that the Holy Spirit is something else, like the archangel Gabriel. I won't go into this, but this brings up a whole bunch of other contradictions.

Imams and Muslims in general are afraid of critical thinking.

If we are to convert an atheist, we first need to create doubt in atheism. Then the atheist is an agnostic. Only when he or she is an agnostic can the Bible be brought up.

Likewise, until the Muslim starts doubting the Koran, they are blinded by lies. The Koran has enough scripture in it to be used for explaining the Gospel. Then the contradictions can be mentioned and going back to the passages in the Koran that are from the Bible, the Muslim's blindness can be lifted.

The Koran is full of misinformation, gnostic texts and scripture twisting, but there is still much thatis pure Bible scripture.

Use the good parts and untwist the "scripture twisting" and a Muslim may come closer to understanding Christ.

Peace brother, but did not Paul say, For it is written: Galatians 1: …7 which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!…

I have read the Koran 3 times, have you ever read it? And so what if there are a few so called "truths", the book is written by the devil personally! And they are taught to even lie to us just to get us to the point of conversion, and if they can't, kill us, that is the message of that book. Open your eyes blood-bought ones, don't throw the pearls to the dogs. Love is what they need, and we can't speak about Islam with them unless we are prepared to do so and then not without walking in the Spirit.

 

[solique]

God created Muslims and wants them to be in His family. Muslims say no, they not only won't do that but they are ready to get rid of God's people and take over the land they were given.

Firstly, "God's people" today can be anybody, no matter what race, color, or language.

Secondly, regarding Palestine (Gaza) and the modern nation of Israel...Do you watch the news? Have you heard what is happening in Gaza, again? Can you not see who the 'bullies' are? One (Hamas) pushes [ask why]... and the other (Israel) pushes back HARDER, making excuses that they are targeting specific known hiding places of Hamas fighters which they say include schools and (?) as they kill innocent people, children and woman.

With the last war in Gaza, the Middle Eastern Christians (I am not talking about the Messianic Jews, but the Middle Eastern Christians, such as the Eastern Orthodox) and also the 'True Torah Jews' were completely OPPOSED to what Israel did. And so would a person who knows God's will be opposed.

 

[TriedByFire]

Hi Fozi,

Years ago I was really drawn to Islam though I was raised as a Christian. I learned heaps, and till this day respect Muslims. However, one night, I was listening to a Muslim audio on Jesus, a sermon being made by a Muslim man. He repeated that God has no Son... and laughed at those who believe God has a Son. I made the decision then that I could not be a Muslim, becuse I could not deny God's SON, Jesus Christ.

I understand that Islam has not been taught truth, and I also understand that if Christians hold truth, and confess to follow Christ, how come only 1% are in Middle Eastern countries? Jesus told us to go out into ALL the world. So when I learned that Jesus is appearing to Muslims in dreams and visions, I could see why. I believe that Jesus is coming soon, and the sign of this today has been the dreams, visions and visitations of Jesus to Muslims.

The Scriptures say in Joel 2:28-32:

"And it shall come to pass afterward,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh;
your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
your old men shall dream dreams,
and your young men shall see visions.
Even on the male and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit.
“And I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke. The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes. And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those who escape, as the LORD has said, and among the survivors shall be those whom the LORD calls."

So, if the Spirit of God will be poured out on all flesh, and sons and daughters, and old and young men will see dreams and visions... then Google "dreams and visions of Jesus" and the first pages show that it is Muslims who are having dreams and visions, and they are having dreams and visions of Jesus (Isa)! Now I can understand WHY. Because Muslims have not heard the truth, and if those of the West are anything to go by.. it can be understandable why Muslims don't want to trust them and what they teach and believe (It has got pretty messed up).

Regarding Jesus' return... Muslim and many Christians I believe have this wrong. A majority of Christians, like Muslims, believe that Jesus will sit on a throne in Jerusalem, and rule this present world. Some if not most even go on to claim there will be money, cars, shops, and what not. But you see, I believe this future event will be the false return of Christ, the world deceiver. Perhaps that world deceiver will come from the heavens (projected imagery?) and destroy some future world tyrant, and appear to be the savior. I know when Jesus returns, I know that He comes as a thief, and that the heavens and earth will pass away in fire, and that only some will survive, and those who survive will rise to meet Him in the air.

Also an error of Islam is saying that Christ did not die, and will soon come back, live out his life, then die. My friend... Jesus was truly DEAD. He was RISEN FROM THE DEAD. He ascended to heaven, and is now "seated at God's right hand"... and will come again.

Um.... lot's more to say, but I will leave it there for now. I hope and pray that Jesus will visit you!! Just block everything out, and pray to God for His truth.

Have you read Revelation 20? *I tend to never go beyond the King James Translation (with the exception of some Hebrew Translations of the New Testament for further understanding and insight).* Anyway, it is not clear as to whether in Heaven or on Earth will The Lord reign for the one thousand year span. However, if one were to keep the context of how The Lord came down to the earth and put Satan in prison in the bottomless pit for that thousand years, it is possible that The Lord might stay on the earth. Especially given the fact that the final battle is again staged on earth. Again, I'm examining the context of the chapters in Revelation.

 

[solique]

Have you read Revelation 20? *I tend to never go beyond the King James Translation (with the exception of some Hebrew Translations of the New Testament for further understanding and insight).* Anyway, it is not clear as to whether in Heaven or on Earth will The Lord reign for the one thousand year span. However, if one were to keep the context of how The Lord came down to the earth and put Satan in prison in the bottomless pit for that thousand years, it is possible that The Lord might stay on the earth. Especially given the fact that the final battle is again staged on earth. Again, I'm examining the context of the chapters in Revelation.

Hi TriedByFire.

Nothing much will be left of this earth, as it will be destroyed with fire (2nd Peter 3)....and then there will be a new heavens and a new earth.

Revelation 20:

Satan was bound when Jesus came. Satan will be loosed for a little while (now), to deceive the whole world (Gog and Magog), to gather them for battle (their number is as the sand of the sea). Then fire comes down from heaven and destroys them. Then is the judgment day.... and then is the new heavens and the new earth. That's how I see Revelations 20.

 

[jag1977]

Nope, I am not Muslim.

 

[Fishbait]

Why you should love Muslims
God loves Muslims!
Muslims are loved by God in the same way that He loves all people. Like all humans, Muslims are created in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27). Like all humans, Muslims sin and fall short of God's glory (Romans 3:23). Like all humans, God loved them so much that He sent His son, so that those who believe in Jesus will have eternal life (John 3:16).


God calls Muslims to Himself!
God designed all of us to seek after Him. That includes Muslims. "From one man, He made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth", …God did this so men would seek Him and perhaps reach out to Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. For in him we live and move and have our being (Acts 17:24-31, especially 26,30)." Like you and I, God has placed "eternity in their hearts (Ecclesiastes 3:11)."


The only good Muslims … are most Muslims.
The media tends to picture Muslims as wild-eyed terrorists who want to bomb America and kill all Christians. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peace-loving, hospitable people.

Muslims are people, too!
Most Muslims are concerned about the same things as you and I. They want to raise their children well, they are concerned about rising crime and pornography, and work hard to pay their bills and survive. Like us, most Muslims decry human suffering and violence between peoples. Many Muslims yearn for peace, friendship, and a happy life. We share the same concerns and needs.


God is at work among Muslims!
Many Muslims are sensitive to God and spiritual things. Because they fear God and are aware of spiritual reality, Muslims often speak of how God appeared to them through dreams and visions, just like He did to the God-fearer Cornelius (Acts 10:1-8). Stories abound of healings because of God's power through Jesus. An increasing number of Muslims are hungry to know about God's dramatic work through Jesus.


Because we are spiritually related.
Many Muslims look to 'Ibrahim (Abraham) as "our forefather (Romans 4:1)." Since those who follow Jesus call Abraham "the father of all who believe (Romans 4:11)," that makes us 'cousins'! Like us, Muslims believe in one true God, the Creator of all peoples.


Because they value our Holy Book and Jesus.
The Q'uran specifically commends the Torat (books of the Law, the first five books of the Bible); the Zibur (the Psalms, or wisdom literature); and the injil (the Gospels). Jesus was sent by God to earth; Jesus healed many during his ministry; and he is returning to judge the living and the dead.


Because they have something to teach us.
Muslims take the spiritual world very seriously and generally are more open to discuss spiritual issues. They have a very high respect for God and His power. Muslims place a high value on community and loyalty. Hospitality is very important to them. These are qualities that most westerners appreciate in their Muslim friends.


God made promises to their ancestors.
Many Muslims look to 'Ibrahim (Abraham) as their descendant through his first son, Ishmael. God made this promise to Ibrahim: "As for Ishmael, I have heard you; behold, I will bless him, and I will make him fruitful, and I will multiply him. He shall become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation (Genesis 17:20)." God fulfilled this promise, for there are over one billion Muslims in the world today!


Because God promised that Muslims who follow Jesus will be part of the multitudes who are gathered about the Throne of God. (They Follow Him Do Not Believe Me Ask A Muslim)
When God gathers all His people at the end of time, there will be representatives from every people group on the earth, "from every nation and tribe and people and language, standing before the Throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, …crying out in a loud voice, 'Salvation to our God who sits on the throne… (Revelation 7:9,10)!"


What Christians should Obviously Learn from Muslims


There are also many things we Christians already know we can and should learn from Muslims, or be reminded of by Muslims. These are things which we already believe, though we do not practice them very well; for instance:


Faithfulness in prayer, fasting and almsgiving


The sacredness of the family and children and hospitality


The absoluteness of moral laws and of the demand to be just and charitable


The absoluteness of God and the need for absolute submission, surrender and obedience ("islam") to him



Half of you will not even read the whole thing before you post a mean comment and if you are Muslims and I am wrong feel free to tell me

I hope you don't find this comment to be 'mean'. Presently Hamas is sending rockets into Israel. These Muslims have one goal. A goal that is set in stone and can never be changed. A goal that is written in their Hamas Covenant . A document where it states very clearly:

•The founding document for Hamas is the Hamas Covenant, which denies the existence of Israel and calls for the destruction of the Jewish state. In addition, it demands the killing of Jews. (The founding document of Fatah, the PLO, and Hezbollah also declare that their mission is the violent destruction of Israel.)

•The covenant declares that no Arab country, Palestinian leader, or any organization can negotiate with Israel. It further asserts that any peace initiative contradicts the principles of the covenant, and the only solution is jihad.

Islam demands the death of every Christian on this site as well as the world. Unless you pay a tax to them. Your kind words about how Islam is about love and peace is false. Muslims hate the land of our Savior Jesus Christ and want to push it's people into the sea. True, "Muslims are people too" and they will face a surprise when they see the return of Jesus Christ in the very land they want to destroy. There He will stand on the Mount of Olives. In the land of Israel. And He will show the people of Israel "whom they have pierced" (Zechariah 12:10) that He is the Messiah.

 

[Ella85]

I really do feel sorry for these countries, especially Muslim countries.
Its every ones right to believe in what they wish. I know what they believe in is wrong, but I still have a soft spot for them, I think because they dont know what they are doing and are confused.
Would you not feel sorry for your child if they believed in something that was going to be harmful.
Now the people who act upon these beliefs on the other hand no I do not feel sorry for.
These are the people that are evil and have a heart of stone.
But please stop and think of all the people dying, they are your brothers and sisters, no matter what religion, race , we are one. May God let them see the light and bring them out of their country into safely and a better life, hopefully in Jesus name

 

[Fishbait]

I really do feel sorry for these countries, especially Muslim countries.
Its every ones right to believe in what they wish. I know what they believe in is wrong, but I still have a soft spot for them, I think because they dont know what they are doing and are confused.
Would you not feel sorry for your child if they believed in something that was going to be harmful.
Now the people who act upon these beliefs on the other hand no I do not feel sorry for.
These are the people that are evil and have a heart of stone.
But please stop and think of all the people dying, they are your brothers and sisters, no matter what religion, race , we are one. May God let them see the light and bring them out of their country into safely and a better life, hopefully in Jesus name

I hope like you that they see the light and come to Jesus. Who does the land of Israel belong to? God makes it very clear.

In regards to the land that God has promised Israel, Genesis 15:18 declares, "To your descendants [Abraham's] I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates." God later confirms this promise to Abraham's son Isaac, and Isaac's son Jacob (whose name was later changed to Israel). When the Israelites were about to invade the Promised Land, God reiterated the land promise, as recorded in Joshua 1:4, "Your territory will extend from the desert to Lebanon, and from the great river, the Euphrates — all the Hittite country — to the Great Sea on the west."

With Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4 in mind, the land God gave to Israel included everything from the Nile river in Egypt to Lebanon (North to South) and everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Euphrates River (West to East). So, what land has God stated belongs to Israel? All of the land modern Israel currently possesses, plus all of the land of the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Israel currently possesses only a fraction of the land God has promised.

As long as whoever claims the land of Israel there will be fighting and people will suffer and die. Peace will only come to Israel when Jesus stands on the Mount of Olives. In the land God gave Abram and his people. The land of Israel. In the meantime we all must witness Israel become a "cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem." Zechariah 12:2

 

[Osiyo]

I really do feel sorry for these countries, especially Muslim countries.
Its every ones right to believe in what they wish. I know what they believe in is wrong, but I still have a soft spot for them, I think because they dont know what they are doing and are confused.
Would you not feel sorry for your child if they believed in something that was going to be harmful.
Now the people who act upon these beliefs on the other hand no I do not feel sorry for.
These are the people that are evil and have a heart of stone.
But please stop and think of all the people dying, they are your brothers and sisters, no matter what religion, race , we are one. May God let them see the light and bring them out of their country into safely and a better life, hopefully in Jesus name

Dear sister Ella85, of course you are right, love is the proper tool to get the message of salvation to the Islamic world, but lets look at the truth also, have you ever visited an Islamic nation? Have you ever lived under the Sharia Law? Have you ever been treated as a women under Sharia Law?

Please forgive my questions, I pray to God that there were allot more as you, with a soft heart of God! But I follow Open Doors, Martyrs for Christ, and a few other websites every day, and the Islamic world is lost as long as Satan is in charge, it is his baby, the Koran and all the teachings, 12th whatever will be of satan. We have to be brave in our walk with these lost people, I mean this, either they are right and we are lost, or we are right and they are lost, what side of the fence do we want to be on? They are our to kill us if we say anything against this clown Mohamed, or the book of Satan the Koran, I am wiling to die for the cross and the preaching there of. Be blessed and again I have lived in this countries and I know many, many walking dead.

 

[MrsRoseTreasure]

We are called to love one another and to spread the good news of the gospel to all people including Muslims. That is why Christians are being slaughtered the world over. Christians turn the other cheek. Muslims take out a knife and cut off that cheek, too.

I don't think any of you have ever read the Quran. You sound completely ignorant of this religion and it's literature. Christians behave the way we do based on the Bible, and the words in the Bible. Muslims believe in the Quran and the words in the Quran. I've been reading this book for the past year. It is full of sinfulness; calls to violence, rape, murder, incest, and death. Mohammed, their great prophet and the author of their book, was a pedophile, and a warmonger, and a slaver. Any Muslim who does not want to force Islam on others is not a very good Muslim, because they are not obeying their book. Further, it is permissible for a Muslim to lie if it furthers Islam. It's true. It's called taqiyya. Look it up. They are also allowed, according to their law, to enslave Christians and charge them a tax, called jaziya.

Please don't misunderstand my meaning. We are called to love them, and to do good to them, and to turn the other cheek. We are called to to reach out to them in prayer and in person, and try to lead them to the loving grace of Messiah.

We are not called to accept them or their ways. We are not called to conform to their ways, or to accept their laws or their gods. We are called to be set apart, unique, peculiar. We are called to ONE god, and that god has a name; Yahweh. We are called to reject other gods, and to avoid the influence of those who worship other gods. We are not called to excuse their behavior.

Please don't confuse things. For your safety, and the safety of all of the world, please educate yourselves in these matters. Please learn the history, and find a non-American news source. Read the literature yourself. It's available through a simple web search.

Islam has killed more people than the Crusades, the Holocaust, the Inquisition, and Communism combined. Every day in the world where we live as many people are killed in the name of Allah as were killed in the entirety of the Inquisition. I could deluge my post with links to these facts. If you are interested in truth and not ear tickling, you will take the time to do the search yourself.

What should you be doing, as a believer? Praying for them. Pray that they see the light, that they repent from their sins. That they turn from their evil god and begin to understand peace and love under the light of the sacrifice of Messiah. Pray that you be given the opportunity to witness to them, and to show them the truth. Pray for the safety and sovereignty of Israel, Yahweh's land. Educate yourself. Learn the history and take off the blinders of political correctness to see the truth that beckons to you beneath it. Love what Yahweh loves, and hate what he hates. Pray for the martyrs, millions of them in the world today, and the women and children who are subjected to the ugly underbelly of Islam that none of you want to talk about. Approach Muslims with your hands in prayer, and your eyes on Yahweh, but do not believe them when they say "Peace and Safety."

I'm glad you all have lived in a world where you can be so full of, "Don't worry, be happy," and accepting of those who worship other gods. Your life has been blessed mightily, and you should give great shouts of joy and thanksgiving to your god who loves you. If you understood where this religion fits in prophecy, and what it really is without the blinders of Western education and media, you would cry as I did when I learned of my own ignorance. Shalom.