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Thank you for standing up for the truth, and for sounding the trumpet.
 
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They are not the same gods. Anyone who reads the literature and compares them would never be confused about that. Thanks for standing up for the truth.

God created Muslims and wants them to be in His family. Muslims say no, they not only won't do that but they are ready to get rid of God's people and take over the land they were given.

Many of the individuals may not be God's enemies, but the worship of their God, Allah, is. They say that their God is another name for our God, yet their God has a different name and different characteristics and even ideas that are different. If Allah was God, then he wouldn't just masquerade as God, but you could recognize him by all his ways.

So we can wish Muslims could live with Christ, accept them if they want to come in, but they are not our family.
 
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We are called to love one another and to spread the good news of the gospel to all people including Muslims. That is why Christians are being slaughtered the world over. Christians turn the other cheek. Muslims take out a knife and cut off that cheek, too.

I don't think any of you have ever read the Quran. You sound completely ignorant of this religion and it's literature. Christians behave the way we do based on the Bible, and the words in the Bible. Muslims believe in the Quran and the words in the Quran. I've been reading this book for the past year. It is full of sinfulness; calls to violence, rape, murder, incest, and death. Mohammed, their great prophet and the author of their book, was a pedophile, and a warmonger, and a slaver. Any Muslim who does not want to force Islam on others is not a very good Muslim, because they are not obeying their book. Further, it is permissible for a Muslim to lie if it furthers Islam. It's true. It's called taqiyya. Look it up. They are also allowed, according to their law, to enslave Christians and charge them a tax, called jaziya.

Please don't misunderstand my meaning. We are called to love them, and to do good to them, and to turn the other cheek. We are called to to reach out to them in prayer and in person, and try to lead them to the loving grace of Messiah.

We are not called to accept them or their ways. We are not called to conform to their ways, or to accept their laws or their gods. We are called to be set apart, unique, peculiar. We are called to ONE god, and that god has a name; Yahweh. We are called to reject other gods, and to avoid the influence of those who worship other gods. We are not called to excuse their behavior.

Please don't confuse things. For your safety, and the safety of all of the world, please educate yourselves in these matters. Please learn the history, and find a non-American news source. Read the literature yourself. It's available through a simple web search.

Islam has killed more people than the Crusades, the Holocaust, the Inquisition, and Communism combined. Every day in the world where we live as many people are killed in the name of Allah as were killed in the entirety of the Inquisition. I could deluge my post with links to these facts. If you are interested in truth and not ear tickling, you will take the time to do the search yourself.

What should you be doing, as a believer? Praying for them. Pray that they see the light, that they repent from their sins. That they turn from their evil god and begin to understand peace and love under the light of the sacrifice of Messiah. Pray that you be given the opportunity to witness to them, and to show them the truth. Pray for the safety and sovereignty of Israel, Yahweh's land. Educate yourself. Learn the history and take off the blinders of political correctness to see the truth that beckons to you beneath it. Love what Yahweh loves, and hate what he hates. Pray for the martyrs, millions of them in the world today, and the women and children who are subjected to the ugly underbelly of Islam that none of you want to talk about. Approach Muslims with your hands in prayer, and your eyes on Yahweh, but do not believe them when they say "Peace and Safety."

I'm glad you all have lived in a world where you can be so full of, "Don't worry, be happy," and accepting of those who worship other gods. Your life has been blessed mightily, and you should give great shouts of joy and thanksgiving to your god who loves you. If you understood where this religion fits in prophecy, and what it really is without the blinders of Western education and media, you would cry as I did when I learned of my own ignorance. Shalom.

I must correct myself. It's every month, not every day. My apologies.
 

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Ah but the protestants and Catholics are ready to let bygones be bygones and unite. They have come to the conclusion that unity is more important than doctrine. Look into bishop Tony Palmer and check out what he says.
Have you come to that conclusion?
 
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Why you should love Muslims
God loves Muslims!
Muslims are loved by God in the same way that He loves all people. Like all humans, Muslims are created in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27). Like all humans, Muslims sin and fall short of God's glory (Romans 3:23). Like all humans, God loved them so much that He sent His son, so that those who believe in Jesus will have eternal life (John 3:16).


God calls Muslims to Himself!
God designed all of us to seek after Him. That includes Muslims. "From one man, He made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth", …God did this so men would seek Him and perhaps reach out to Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. For in him we live and move and have our being (Acts 17:24-31, especially 26,30)." Like you and I, God has placed "eternity in their hearts (Ecclesiastes 3:11)."


The only good Muslims … are most Muslims.
The media tends to picture Muslims as wild-eyed terrorists who want to bomb America and kill all Christians. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peace-loving, hospitable people.

Muslims are people, too!
Most Muslims are concerned about the same things as you and I. They want to raise their children well, they are concerned about rising crime and pornography, and work hard to pay their bills and survive. Like us, most Muslims decry human suffering and violence between peoples. Many Muslims yearn for peace, friendship, and a happy life. We share the same concerns and needs.


God is at work among Muslims!
Many Muslims are sensitive to God and spiritual things. Because they fear God and are aware of spiritual reality, Muslims often speak of how God appeared to them through dreams and visions, just like He did to the God-fearer Cornelius (Acts 10:1-8). Stories abound of healings because of God's power through Jesus. An increasing number of Muslims are hungry to know about God's dramatic work through Jesus.


Because we are spiritually related.
Many Muslims look to 'Ibrahim (Abraham) as "our forefather (Romans 4:1)." Since those who follow Jesus call Abraham "the father of all who believe (Romans 4:11)," that makes us 'cousins'! Like us, Muslims believe in one true God, the Creator of all peoples.


Because they value our Holy Book and Jesus.
The Q'uran specifically commends the Torat (books of the Law, the first five books of the Bible); the Zibur (the Psalms, or wisdom literature); and the injil (the Gospels). Jesus was sent by God to earth; Jesus healed many during his ministry; and he is returning to judge the living and the dead.


Because they have something to teach us.
Muslims take the spiritual world very seriously and generally are more open to discuss spiritual issues. They have a very high respect for God and His power. Muslims place a high value on community and loyalty. Hospitality is very important to them. These are qualities that most westerners appreciate in their Muslim friends.


God made promises to their ancestors.
Many Muslims look to 'Ibrahim (Abraham) as their descendant through his first son, Ishmael. God made this promise to Ibrahim: "As for Ishmael, I have heard you; behold, I will bless him, and I will make him fruitful, and I will multiply him. He shall become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation (Genesis 17:20)." God fulfilled this promise, for there are over one billion Muslims in the world today!


Because God promised that Muslims who follow Jesus will be part of the multitudes who are gathered about the Throne of God. (They Follow Him Do Not Believe Me Ask A Muslim)
When God gathers all His people at the end of time, there will be representatives from every people group on the earth, "from every nation and tribe and people and language, standing before the Throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, …crying out in a loud voice, 'Salvation to our God who sits on the throne… (Revelation 7:9,10)!"


What Christians should Obviously Learn from Muslims


There are also many things we Christians already know we can and should learn from Muslims, or be reminded of by Muslims. These are things which we already believe, though we do not practice them very well; for instance:


Faithfulness in prayer, fasting and almsgiving


The sacredness of the family and children and hospitality


The absoluteness of moral laws and of the demand to be just and charitable


The absoluteness of God and the need for absolute submission, surrender and obedience ("islam") to him



Half of you will not even read the whole thing before you post a mean comment and if you are Muslims and I am wrong feel free to tell me

Friend, when you judge as a believer, it is written that;

"Do not judge by outward standards but judge by what is right."


The al-quran is the foundation for islam and the Holy Bible is the foundation for Christian. Their foundation teaches them to live peacefully and in love with their enemies, when they are outnumbered. by them. When they outnumber us, that's the time they will turn against you by any means and Islam must dominate and rule the world. The ones who denies these things are written in the al-quran, are either lukewarm muslims or just practicing in disguise muslims, until an opportune time to battle. That time will take place in a full scale, when their coming imam is here, That is the quest to convert the world to Islam. During this time, even a lukewarm muslim will become true believers once again, because worried of being persecuted.

As it is written about unbelievers that;

"Do not be equally yoked with unbelievers."

In love, minister Grace and Truth to them. We do not hate them but concerned about their future. We do not have to learn from them but learn from our HOLY SPIRIT the Holy Bible and witness onto them that are lost.
 
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womanofchrist27 said:
The only good Muslims … are most Muslims.
The media tends to picture Muslims as wild-eyed terrorists who want to bomb America and kill all Christians. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peace-loving, hospitable people.
Oh really? In which "revisionist" history book did you find this "mis-information" ... and all the other "mis-information" you have posted in your OP?

From Dave Hunt's book "Judgment Day: Islam, Israel, and the Nations"; chapter 8: Facing Hard Facts, page 185:

No one can excuse Islamic violence and murder by saying that the same thing (though on a much smaller scale) was practiced by the crusaders. Though they waved crosses and obeyed the Roman Catholic Church and her popes in doing so, their slaughter of Jews and Muslims was in violation of the teachings of the Bible and of the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, proving that they were not Christians at all. But what the Muslims did in slaughtering millions in spreading Islam from France to China, and what terrorists do today, is in obedience to the Qur'an and the life and teachings of Muhammad. Thus they demonstrate that they are true Muslims. Those who claim that Islam is peace and that they are not in favor of violence in spreading Islam have no right to call themselves Muslims, and they are deceiving Westerners when they make that claim. (Judgment Day: Islam, Israel, and the Nations by Dave Hunt, pg. 185)
Americans (especially those who profess to be Christians) need to wake up and learn the TRUTH about Islam.
 

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MrsRoseTreasure said - I don't think any of you have ever read the Quran. You sound completely ignorant of this religion and it's literature.
This is truth.

I admit, I actually don't know much about the Quran at all. It is important we know all facts before speaking, there are too many people who give their own opinions without backing up truth.

Is it something you should be reading? I don't know, if it interests you enough then go for it. Me personally I wouldn't because I prefer to focus on my bible and put all my time and energy into Christ.

I am a firm believer of not forgetting what God has taught us. And I believe he was preparing us for this day, he knew these times would come. God specifically tells us not to judge others.
If the world had this attitude it would be a better place. Let us not come down to their level, and fight against them, but PRAY for them.

Another thing MrsRoseTreasure said - Any Muslim who does not want to force Islam on others is not a very good Muslim, because they are not obeying their book.

No one has a right to force any religion onto anyone, I watch so many of these (street preachers) makes you sick. The world is so corrupt. People don't even know what they believe in any more, not even Christians, Muslims, whatever... it's just weird. People need to come back down to earth (back to reality) and be HUMBLE!

You know we as Christians need to take a look at ourselves and what we resemble.
Are we a good role model?
Preaching hatred with hatred = war

If Muslims had this attitude - we would not be in the situation we are in. They would learn to love and respect us Christians just as are taught to respect and not judge them. Let us not give in into the deceiver. But remember Gods word - and what he taught you.

[h=1]Matthew 7:1-15King James Version (KJV)[/h]7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.



 
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MrsRoseTreasure said - I don't think any of you have ever read the Quran. You sound completely ignorant of this religion and it's literature.
This is truth.

I admit, I actually don't know much about the Quran at all. It is important we know all facts before speaking, there are too many people who give their own opinions without backing up truth.

Is it something you should be reading? I don't know, if it interests you enough then go for it. Me personally I wouldn't because I prefer to focus on my bible and put all my time and energy into Christ.

I am a firm believer of not forgetting what God has taught us. And I believe he was preparing us for this day, he knew these times would come. God specifically tells us not to judge others.
If the world had this attitude it would be a better place. Let us not come down to their level, and fight against them, but PRAY for them.

Another thing MrsRoseTreasure said - Any Muslim who does not want to force Islam on others is not a very good Muslim, because they are not obeying their book.

No one has a right to force any religion onto anyone, I watch so many of these (street preachers) makes you sick. The world is so corrupt. People don't even know what they believe in any more, not even Christians, Muslims, whatever... it's just weird. People need to come back down to earth (back to reality) and be HUMBLE!

You know we as Christians need to take a look at ourselves and what we resemble.
Are we a good role model?
Preaching hatred with hatred = war

If Muslims had this attitude - we would not be in the situation we are in. They would learn to love and respect us Christians just as are taught to respect and not judge them. Let us not give in into the deceiver. But remember Gods word - and what he taught you.

Matthew 7:1-15King James Version (KJV)

7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Beloved babes in CHRIST, with all due respect to you of CHRIST, must understand basically your growth and position and gender, in order to comment on this and quoting Scripture out of context and giving them to, in CHRIST, GOD's gifted spiritual labourers unregonizingly. Either you are on our side in love to minister onto them the truth that they may notice false in theirs and choose only one who is JESUS and receive conversation, through the only name above all other name where sins can be forgiven.

But If you are on their side or in between both, then your are just compromising and messing with our work on behalf of them. If you have anything against our cnfessions, to be false regarding the foundation of the al-quran, then correct us using the same book. If not please be silent and do not practice authority over men as the Holy Bible teaches you.

You are right and true in your confession that you need to focus on the Holy Bible that speak about your life and work on your in-completion. And is true and right that you do not for now need to read the al-quran, unless by GOD's will.

i am taught and guided to confess differently from other believer regarding Islam. i am not pointing judgemental fingers at them, but pointing out on a false and twisted doctrine and their ignorance to them and also to CHRIST's believers, without understanding about what is going on, who are trying to neutralize the situation, by mixing and matching between both and cleverly advicing Christian should learn from them. When their knowledge faith foundation the al-quran teaches them to learn from us and do not content and wrestle with us, for there is no corruption in them. These summarisingly are the very words of angel Gabreil to nabi mohammed in order to clear his doubts.

Today many muslim are also turning to CHRIST, after realizing from gifted Christian who have boldly and in offense highlighted false in their foundation and truth that leads them to ours, as the uncorrupted, distinguishing for themselves the Holy Bible and the Al-quran doctrine, JESUS CHRIST of Nazareth and nabi mohammed. Two contradicting names and doctrine but only one seem to be dominating and winning the hearts, also of those muslims who believe in the truth of the Holy Bible and her servants laboring also in confession ministering.

We cannot look on the outward appearances and practices of that or any religion and justify them as peaceful as well. First of all their foundation the al-quran teaches them to pretend to do so, being friendly and peaceful towards their enemies(non-muslims), if when they are outnumbered among them. And if and when they reach majority also from worldwide converts to muslim and when during the reign of their promised 'imam', that's when you may witness their true colours in faith action, in the name of 'allah', even mass murder. Ignorantly as they were taught since young, they are just conformed to this false doctrine from the beginning of their lives.

And gifted Christian are straightening things ministering to them and also all other religions, in highlighting the false in their doctrine and falsehood practices in their faith, in order for them to turn back to GOD's Way through only CHRIST and repent.

We say we must love and i agree, but how will someone know that they are in blindness and in ignorance, believing in a false doctrine and being in falsehood witnessing?

If as a gifted believer, i keep quiet knowing the truth fact of the deception of false is taking root in someone's lives and influencing others, then i am spiritually justified as a coward, who compromised and saved him 'self'. But if i spoke up boldly in truth love confession, concern for all of them, even though i may offend their believes for a time or so or always. I am glad that i have loved them using my given duty in confessing the truth, in order to save others in ignorance, from the ditch that awaits them ahead. In my labor, i am not able nor allowed according to Holy Bible doctrine Scripture knoledge faith, to see or to know whether i was able to save them all. some or a few. i just perform in faith what i am guided to confess through spiritual knowledge.

So i hope in all of these i have shared in 'Agape' that we may all come to one sound doctrine senses together and be ready and stay alert, also Christian future generation who are growing with us and witnessing us, to be ready to face the growing religious enmity against us who speak boldly because of CHRIST, for GOD, that lies ahead of us to come. We as Christian may say anything on that day of persecution, in our defense to claim our innocence and also find favor by few of them who know us, whom we did not offend in anyway but were careful and silent and also spoke on behalf of them, correcting our own, in love and pity for them. Remember for that future to defenately take place and be ready now itself, by taking love correction and grow up.

For on that day, the majority will only favor us unless we renounce Christianity and accept islam, that will take place during the reign of their awaited 'imam' and his quest overall to convert the world to islam, even it takes by force or harshness. We and the generation that we guide in our careful and silent confession and deeds, will for sure be spared by our enemies. But sadly, completely we will be cut off from GOD forever, because all the while we were all bunch of hypocrites, who lived a careful and silent, 'lukewarm' Christian lives, to the necessity and pleasure of the world and their fruits.

You also have got to learn and know spiritually and not carnally a lot from the HOLY SPIRIT, who inspired the Holy Bible and also practice them as written truthfully, my beloved sister. We must realize our spiritual stand and our enemies, who also do their work, through the blind and ignorant carnal humans, who unknowingly live in deception, in their believes and witnessing. True love means telling others only the Truth about sins and the Good News, even though they may hate us for now, but they will thank GOD, because of us later.

So, you decide upon witnessing and by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, whose side are you going to be on, from today and onwards?

Because the Holy Scripture written in Revelation 3;15,16, warns those who are neither here or there Christian, also laboring together in ignorance that;

"I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth."

Also reminding Christian about ignorantly favoring others by using a carnal method in judging by outward standards, from what they have witnessed and have distinguish and in judgement comment between true and false. Sadly, you have done the same and have judged some of us sister, regarding our given labor ministering and how best we should do them. You who teach us not to judge but you yourself are a clever young judge, ahead of us.

Rather than knowing spiritually using the Holy Scriptural standards, about those who are in deception and are in disguise practicing unknowingly and are able to deceive that only a spiritually learned Christian know not to fall for it, that;

"Even satan disguises himself as an angel of light, and it is not surprising that his servants, disguises themselves as servants of righteousness."

As a carnal living person, as unbeliever, i love to be neutral and talk fair in everything and favor everything pleasing to my sight and teach and correct others in my own blindness and ignorance.

But as Grace and Truth taught spiritual living person, as a believer, i love to stand for the truth and talk fair in regards to them, even it may be unfair to others, who lack in understanding JESUS as our only savior and favor not everything pleasing to my sight, that are carnal and use the given gift to minister onto others, even our own first, who are beginners or have forgotten and also to the blind and ignorant world.

 
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I don't think any of you have ever read the Quran.
I have read and studied the Arabic of the Koran frontwards, backwards, and everything in between for the better part of 20 years.

I have yet to encounter anyone who knows more about the Biblical origins of the Koran than I do.



You sound completely ignorant of this religion and it's literature. Christians behave the way we do based on the Bible, and the words in the Bible. Muslims believe in the Quran and the words in the Quran. I've been reading this book for the past year. It is full of sinfulness; calls to violence, rape, murder, incest, and death.
The Koran was copied and paraphrased from the Holy Bible to begin with.

Its just out of order and set to rhyme in Arabic.

>75% of the Koran comes from the Biblical Book of Revelation, alone!





Mohammed, their great prophet and the author of their book, was a pedophile, and a warmonger, and a slaver.
No.

No one named 'Muhammad' had ANYTHING to do with the Koran, according TO the Koran.

You are simply parroting Islamic myth...of which, makes for pretty good entertainment and great comebacks for non-muslims...albeit, untruthful as it may be...
 
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Why you should love Muslims
God loves Muslims!
Muslims are loved by God in the same way that He loves all people. Like all humans, Muslims are created in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27). Like all humans, Muslims sin and fall short of God's glory (Romans 3:23). Like all humans, God loved them so much that He sent His son, so that those who believe in Jesus will have eternal life (John 3:16).


God calls Muslims to Himself!
God designed all of us to seek after Him. That includes Muslims. "From one man, He made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth", …God did this so men would seek Him and perhaps reach out to Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. For in him we live and move and have our being (Acts 17:24-31, especially 26,30)." Like you and I, God has placed "eternity in their hearts (Ecclesiastes 3:11)."


The only good Muslims … are most Muslims.
The media tends to picture Muslims as wild-eyed terrorists who want to bomb America and kill all Christians. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peace-loving, hospitable people.

Muslims are people, too!
Most Muslims are concerned about the same things as you and I. They want to raise their children well, they are concerned about rising crime and pornography, and work hard to pay their bills and survive. Like us, most Muslims decry human suffering and violence between peoples. Many Muslims yearn for peace, friendship, and a happy life. We share the same concerns and needs.


God is at work among Muslims!
Many Muslims are sensitive to God and spiritual things. Because they fear God and are aware of spiritual reality, Muslims often speak of how God appeared to them through dreams and visions, just like He did to the God-fearer Cornelius (Acts 10:1-8). Stories abound of healings because of God's power through Jesus. An increasing number of Muslims are hungry to know about God's dramatic work through Jesus.


Because we are spiritually related.
Many Muslims look to 'Ibrahim (Abraham) as "our forefather (Romans 4:1)." Since those who follow Jesus call Abraham "the father of all who believe (Romans 4:11)," that makes us 'cousins'! Like us, Muslims believe in one true God, the Creator of all peoples.


Because they value our Holy Book and Jesus.
The Q'uran specifically commends the Torat (books of the Law, the first five books of the Bible); the Zibur (the Psalms, or wisdom literature); and the injil (the Gospels). Jesus was sent by God to earth; Jesus healed many during his ministry; and he is returning to judge the living and the dead.


Because they have something to teach us.
Muslims take the spiritual world very seriously and generally are more open to discuss spiritual issues. They have a very high respect for God and His power. Muslims place a high value on community and loyalty. Hospitality is very important to them. These are qualities that most westerners appreciate in their Muslim friends.


God made promises to their ancestors.
Many Muslims look to 'Ibrahim (Abraham) as their descendant through his first son, Ishmael. God made this promise to Ibrahim: "As for Ishmael, I have heard you; behold, I will bless him, and I will make him fruitful, and I will multiply him. He shall become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation (Genesis 17:20)." God fulfilled this promise, for there are over one billion Muslims in the world today!


Because God promised that Muslims who follow Jesus will be part of the multitudes who are gathered about the Throne of God. (They Follow Him Do Not Believe Me Ask A Muslim)
When God gathers all His people at the end of time, there will be representatives from every people group on the earth, "from every nation and tribe and people and language, standing before the Throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, …crying out in a loud voice, 'Salvation to our God who sits on the throne… (Revelation 7:9,10)!"


What Christians should Obviously Learn from Muslims


There are also many things we Christians already know we can and should learn from Muslims, or be reminded of by Muslims. These are things which we already believe, though we do not practice them very well; for instance:


Faithfulness in prayer, fasting and almsgiving


The sacredness of the family and children and hospitality


The absoluteness of moral laws and of the demand to be just and charitable


The absoluteness of God and the need for absolute submission, surrender and obedience ("islam") to him



Half of you will not even read the whole thing before you post a mean comment and if you are Muslims and I am wrong feel free to tell me

this looks like a cliche facebook post
 
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Next time you copy and paste an entire article, please cite the sources. :)
 
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I hope you don't find this comment to be 'mean'. Presently Hamas is sending rockets into Israel. These Muslims have one goal. A goal that is set in stone and can never be changed. A goal that is written in their Hamas Covenant . A document where it states very clearly:

•The founding document for Hamas is the Hamas Covenant, which denies the existence of Israel and calls for the destruction of the Jewish state. In addition, it demands the killing of Jews. (The founding document of Fatah, the PLO, and Hezbollah also declare that their mission is the violent destruction of Israel.)

•The covenant declares that no Arab country, Palestinian leader, or any organization can negotiate with Israel. It further asserts that any peace initiative contradicts the principles of the covenant, and the only solution is jihad.

Islam demands the death of every Christian on this site as well as the world. Unless you pay a tax to them. Your kind words about how Islam is about love and peace is false. Muslims hate the land of our Savior Jesus Christ and want to push it's people into the sea. True, "Muslims are people too" and they will face a surprise when they see the return of Jesus Christ in the very land they want to destroy. There He will stand on the Mount of Olives. In the land of Israel. And He will show the people of Israel "whom they have pierced" (Zechariah 12:10) that He is the Messiah.
Jesus has ALREADY stood on the Mount of Olives. Jesus has already fulfilled Zechariah 14. The continuous light to the nations. The living water. The heavenly Jerusalem! Jesus is the God of the entire world now. Israel was destroyed.......... He will come again.......... and take those who remain alive with him.

You are to love your neighbor.
 
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Just for the record I am of close Jewish ancestry. My mothers surname means 'A Jew'. And I stand as a Christian with the "True Torah Jews" as in I am opposed to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians as one example. You have things wrong. God is love.
 
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The media tends to picture Muslims as wild-eyed terrorists who want to bomb America and kill all Christians. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peace-loving, hospitable people.

That is a lie from the pit of hell! The Media has been trying to spin it as just the opposite, calling it the religion of peace when history has proved other wise. If they were, they would denounce Ha-mas but they don't, because they cant. Their religion calls them to world dominance and lying to protect themselves and to deceive the infidel. They never move into a place and live peaceably or integrate in but bring with them Sharia, honor killings and violence. Its so bad in Holland they are throwing them out. England has a mess and cant operate with two vastly different justice systems. Women are demeaned and treated as property. Your 18 and have been indoctrinated, study history.
 
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Just for the record I am of close Jewish ancestry. My mothers surname means 'A Jew'. And I stand as a Christian with the "True Torah Jews" as in I am opposed to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians as one example. You have things wrong. God is love.
What makes your worship of God different than that of Jews...?
 
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There are 300 million fanatical muslims who want to convert you or kill you. Islam is a religion of death and oppression.
 
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That is a lie from the pit of hell! The Media has been trying to spin it as just the opposite, calling it the religion of peace when history has proved other wise. If they were, they would denounce Ha-mas but they don't, because they cant. Their religion calls them to world dominance and lying to protect themselves and to deceive the infidel. They never move into a place and live peaceably or integrate in but bring with them Sharia, honor killings and violence. Its so bad in Holland they are throwing them out. England has a mess and cant operate with two vastly different justice systems. Women are demeaned and treated as property. Your 18 and have been indoctrinated, study history.

Go back and look at the news footage of 9/11 it was the women and the children dancing in the in the streets and even in New Jersey and Chicago.
 
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There are 300 million fanatical muslims who want to convert you or kill you. Islam is a religion of death and oppression.
This is not true! They're people, just like you and me. Do not let TV Hollywood lull you to sleep. It was designed this way for this very purpose, PLEASE you listen!

If the news man wears make up and reads a script from a card, THEN IT IS ACTING!

Just as I previously described about homosexuality, it is designed and promoted by the MEDIA for the purpose of separation (AGAIN THE MAIN RULE OF WAR IS DIVIDE AND CONQUER) in order to make money off of the tension and wars!

The conflict in Israel is designed for this very reason, AND it keeps your eyes off of a dead dollar a little while longer.
 
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Another thing MrsRoseTreasure said - Any Muslim who does not want to force Islam on others is not a very good Muslim, because they are not obeying their book.

No one has a right to force any religion onto anyone, I watch so many of these (street preachers) makes you sick.
I disagree. Street preachers are doing what you are apparently afraid to do. They are speaking out the words of the Most High with all of their might and living by their conviction. I have played music at many open air meetings, and I am proud to be a part of spreading the light.

When Jehovah's Witnesses knock on my door, they are met with smiles but a shaken head. I am not ever rude to them. They are, at least, living what they believe, right? If a Muslim approached me on the street with a flyer and asked me to consider their religion, I would shake my head and smile. That's not what's happening in the world, and ever in history. Muslims are ordered by their book to take it by force.


Muslims are ordered to take the lives of anyone not Muslim. It's in their book. Read it. I invite you to educate yourself. I beseech you as a fellow believer to move outside your church cookouts and Sunday Bible stories and educating yourself on people who are dying for their faith in the world we live in.

It's interesting that you equate my speaking the truth as pride and hate. It is neither of those things. That's a behavior called, "assigning motive," by the way. I'm simply being factual. Muslims kill people the world over. Fact. Muslims have killed people the world over for 1600 years almost steadily. Fact. Muslims are ordered to kill the "People of the Book." (Jews and Christians.) Fact. It took a great deal of humbling for me to come to the point of seeing the world without the color of my opinion jading it. It took a great deal of humbling to admit that I was wrong, and that I had no idea what was really going on. It's been quite the education. Now that I know, the evil must be revealed. It must be spoken. Someone MUST shine a light on it and try help. Instead of belittling me for shining the light, why aren't you outraged at the murderers and pedophiles and the abusers of women? Why aren't you shining the light? Isn't that what Messiah did when he was on Earth?