NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Why only the selected few?

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richie_2uk

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Something I noticed either by mouth, or in the news or even in Christian books. I hear many has been or gone through a near death experience and lived to tell the story. Which I think is remarkable and amazing. However, this is not any form of doubt, or even disbelief. As I certainly do believe these things do happen and do exist.

My question is not up for arguments, or any wild derailed or any form of negative feedbacks. This is a question I just want to put out there to you, as a civil, and down to earth, and simple discussion. Not to go deep, not to go all that with attitude. This is just a friendly discussion.

Take a look at this Video and Share your view on it. In the video is an re-inactment told by Ian McCormack of his story. My question is: Why is it, that its a selected few that has these experiences and not everyone?

[video=youtube_share;N1-ezZ9hkD8]http://youtu.be/N1-ezZ9hkD8[/video]

Keep your comments simple, civil, and friendly. we all know how to serious some people can get in these forums.....


 
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Hi, Richie!
Allow me to say what I got (in short).
1) NDE is not easily believed
2) I knew about Iam McCormack after reading a book written by Dr Richard Kent. I recomend visiting www.freechristianteachig.org (to download 2 free .pdf books or to watch that movie)
3) I contacted Dr Richard Kent, as well as others he mentioned on his 1st book (Like Iam Mc) and heard from their ministries.
4) On Richard´s book I disbelieve some issues, but he became christian AFTER HAVING HAD THOSE TESTIMONIES or experiences with his clinic patiences.
5) I made my own research, in Venezuela and in Colombia, and I have found out THERE ARE MANY THINGS in common (even with child NDEs)
6) I remember only 1 obscure NDE of my life, and this in not enough to back up anything.
7) I have found some "reasonable" discrepances on Dr Richard Kent´s book and Ian McCormack account. These two version have some religious bias I don´t cope with, and I don´t know PERSONALLY each man, unless by emails.

I hope I have helped.
 
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Oh! I forgot to say. The movie, in there, is "The Lazarus Phenomeno". It´s a version on Kent´s book where all of us can see the testimonies of those who have expericed NDEs.
 

homwardbound

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Romans 8:28And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

For me I was by the doctor's stating was not to be born and my mother was not to live, she was 43 at the time i was born in 1957. I was a change of life Baby. Around 12 I was strangled to death by a man and dropped to the ground after I turned blue in the face. I lived by the grace of God and no other. I was 14 or 15, went off a bridge in a dune buggy head foirst with three others in the buggy, crashed intoithe water head first we all lived and the report from the police after finding the buggt reported that the buggy had tobepushed off the bridge that noone would have survived had they been in it. Also the song that was playing at the time while we all were going over the bridge was Stairway to Heaven. I had a tire machine blow up and hit me in the face. There have been many instances in my life where I should have died and I believe there is a reason from God that this today has not happened yet. We all go through experiences in life that change our lifes to come to belief in God
Thanks for posting this
My last NDE is last Nov. 2012, had foreigner ganggreen and most do not live through this. I really was and am still ready to go home, yet God has God's purpose in all this, and this does not make it easy, the flesh is still fighting me as it has always.
This is this mans storyof what happened to him and if God be praised through it then Hallaluah!!!!!!!! for this
 
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richie_2uk

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Hi, Richie!
Allow me to say what I got (in short).
1) NDE is not easily believed
2) I knew about Iam McCormack after reading a book written by Dr Richard Kent. I recomend visiting www.freechristianteachig.org (to download 2 free .pdf books or to watch that movie)
3) I contacted Dr Richard Kent, as well as others he mentioned on his 1st book (Like Iam Mc) and heard from their ministries.
4) On Richard´s book I disbelieve some issues, but he became christian AFTER HAVING HAD THOSE TESTIMONIES or experiences with his clinic patiences.
5) I made my own research, in Venezuela and in Colombia, and I have found out THERE ARE MANY THINGS in common (even with child NDEs)
6) I remember only 1 obscure NDE of my life, and this in not enough to back up anything.
7) I have found some "reasonable" discrepances on Dr Richard Kent´s book and Ian McCormack account. These two version have some religious bias I don´t cope with, and I don´t know PERSONALLY each man, unless by emails.

I hope I have helped.
No not really. you talked about mainly about dr Richard kent guy, my question was. Why is it, that its a selected few that has these experiences and not everyone? But thank you for your comment.
 

homwardbound

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I personally do not know why, but I do trust God for all things, whether death or life here or there at home in Heaven. All somehow goes to the glory of God
 
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richie_2uk

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I personally do not know why, but I do trust God for all things, whether death or life here or there at home in Heaven. All somehow goes to the glory of God
Yes Amen to that............. Like I said its not a question of doubt, just one of those questions comes to head. and thought to post it up.
 
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Jesus HIMSELF told us: "If they don´t believe MOSES and prophets, they won´t believe anyone who came back from dead" (Luke 16:31)
 
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richie_2uk

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Jesus HIMSELF told us: "If they don´t believe MOSES and prophets, they won´t believe anyone who came back from dead" (Luke 16:31)
Sooooo?? Why is it, that its a selected few that has these experiences and not everyone??? LOL.
 
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I believe that everyone has a purpose, rather if it is bad or good, it is still a purpose. Some might experience things while others experiences are different. But all experiences are for the purpose to unveil the truth.
 
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Rodger

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Something I noticed either by mouth, or in the news or even in Christian books. I hear many has been or gone through a near death experience and lived to tell the story. Which I think is remarkable and amazing. However, this is not any form of doubt, or even disbelief. As I certainly do believe these things do happen and do exist.

My question is not up for arguments, or any wild derailed or any form of negative feedbacks. This is a question I just want to put out there to you, as a civil, and down to earth, and simple discussion. Not to go deep, not to go all that with attitude. This is just a friendly discussion.

Take a look at this Video and Share your view on it. In the video is an re-inactment told by Ian McCormack of his story. My question is: Why is it, that its a selected few that has these experiences and not everyone?

[video=youtube_share;N1-ezZ9hkD8]http://youtu.be/N1-ezZ9hkD8[/video]

Keep your comments simple, civil, and friendly. we all know how to serious some people can get in these forums.....


IMO, near death experiences are made up in the imagination of the one who claimed such a thing. The mind is a wonderful organ but it can do things we wish we could not and not the things that we can do.

Some one who is in a comma or un-conciouse has no controle over their mind so it does what it always does......."think".

We someone tells us about a near deah experice and how they went to heaven, and say Jesus and on and on.......all that does is to make them appear to be more spiritual than everyone else.

Hebrews 9:27
"And it is appointed unto men once to die then the judgment".
 
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IMO, near death experiences are made up in the imagination of the one who claimed such a thing. The mind is a wonderful organ but it can do things we wish we could not and not the things that we can do.

Some one who is in a comma or un-conciouse has no controle over their mind so it does what it always does......."think".

We someone tells us about a near deah experice and how they went to heaven, and say Jesus and on and on.......all that does is to make them appear to be more spiritual than everyone else.

Hebrews 9:27
"And it is appointed unto men once to die then the judgment".
No one was saying you had to be completely dead. That's why it's called a "NEAR death experience." Tell what you said to a little girl and her mother who was caught in earthquake rubble for days. The little girl would tell you herself that she saw a man named Jesus (and she was Muslim). Tell that to the little girl who met her miscarried brother in heaven and she knew the name which her parents never told you. My grandfather even had one...I could go on and on. I'm sure ya don't wanna tell an 8 year old child that they are trying to appear to be better than someone else. What I am saying is that we do not know the situation and we have no room to speak of which we do not know.
 
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richie_2uk

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Good point JesusChica. I did say Near death experience. I heard of a similar story of a young child. and it baffled scientists, Doctors and non believers. I believe that God can gives us these things, I can understand how some people of the world would not believe in such thing or they make up, or interpret it all wrong. But with God all things are possible, so why not Near death experience? and yes of course I would like to see someone ask that young child, was it all in her mind? or that she made it all up, in the time of a critical near death experience, where how can one's mind think of such thing when in pain, or suffering or hurting? I mean fair enough if people don't believe, then fine, they don't believe. but for someone to say its all made up, and contradicts his comments, needs to re think himself. don't you think?
 
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TomH

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Something I noticed either by mouth, or in the news or even in Christian books. I hear many has been or gone through a near death experience and lived to tell the story. Which I think is remarkable and amazing. However, this is not any form of doubt, or even disbelief. As I certainly do believe these things do happen and do exist.

My question is not up for arguments, or any wild derailed or any form of negative feedbacks. This is a question I just want to put out there to you, as a civil, and down to earth, and simple discussion. Not to go deep, not to go all that with attitude. This is just a friendly discussion.

Take a look at this Video and Share your view on it. In the video is an re-inactment told by Ian McCormack of his story. My question is: Why is it, that its a selected few that has these experiences and not everyone?

[video=youtube_share;N1-ezZ9hkD8]http://youtu.be/N1-ezZ9hkD8[/video]

Keep your comments simple, civil, and friendly. we all know how to serious some people can get in these forums.....


I don't have time to watch this vid now, but I had an out of body experience some call a near death experience in the hospital. I left my body and was looking down at myself in the bed before I started rushing through a spooky dark tunnel until suddenly I was in the brightest light I'd ever seen, but it didn't hurt my eyes. I just felt total peace and love. When I found myself back in my body, I felt compelled to look in the bedside stand. There was nothing in it but a Gideon's bible. I was raised a Catholic. So I wasn't really into the bible, but I picked it up and started reading. I became overwhelmed with emotion and realized that God really was talking to me through scripture. When folks came to the hospital to visit me, I told them what happened. They just looked at me like I was crazy, but I decided to keep reading scripture after that experience. The experience had a profound effect on me. I believe the most important thing in life is love. I'm talking about spiritual love. The best thing we can do is to love one another.


"You shall love your associate as yourself." (Leviticus 19:18; Romans 13:9; Galatians 5:14)
 
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I don't have time to watch this vid now, but I had an out of body experience some call a near death experience in the hospital. I left my body and was looking down at myself in the bed before I started rushing through a spooky dark tunnel until suddenly I was in the brightest light I'd ever seen, but it didn't hurt my eyes. I just felt total peace and love. When I found myself back in my body, I felt compelled to look in the bedside stand. There was nothing in it but a Gideon's bible. I was raised a Catholic. So I wasn't really into the bible, but I picked it up and started reading. I became overwhelmed with emotion and realized that God really was talking to me through scripture. When folks came to the hospital to visit me, I told them what happened. They just looked at me like I was crazy, but I decided to keep reading scripture after that experience. The experience had a profound effect on me. I believe the most important thing in life is love. I'm talking about spiritual love. The best thing we can do is to love one another.


"You shall love your associate as yourself." (Leviticus 19:18; Romans 13:9; Galatians 5:14)
This is almost exactly like my friend told me he experienced. Except he was not a Christian, and it didn't convince him to be one. He had never experienced love as a child and always felt unloved, but the light at the end of the tunnel accepted him just as he was and loved him. He did not want to go back to his body, but the light told him he had work to do, he must go back. He never understood that work was to accept Christ and be washed clean, he passed on ten years later without understanding.

However, he was an alcoholic. As soon as a clinic opened that morning, he enrolled and never had another drink.
 
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2b4God

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I don't have sound on my laptop so I can't watch the video, but I have wondered that same thing myself. I was lucky to hear about the book "Heaven is for Real" about a little boy, and I sometimes think that those that are (in my opinion), lucky enough to experience this , are for the benefit not only of themselves, but for someone very important in God's eyes that need such a deeply felt message from Him.
 

homwardbound

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Jesus HIMSELF told us: "If they don´t believe MOSES and prophets, they won´t believe anyone who came back from dead" (Luke 16:31)
Lazureth and the rich man the rich man seperated from God crying out being too late for him, since he has no compassion, selfishness is the morrow of the Story. God has brought Mercy to us all through his Son, given the one's this Mercy who claim to beleive and even though they may act as if they have Mercy for others, truly it is God that knows who is who and what is what
How shall any of us escape
Hebrews 2:3How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
 

homwardbound

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IMO, near death experiences are made up in the imagination of the one who claimed such a thing. The mind is a wonderful organ but it can do things we wish we could not and not the things that we can do.

Some one who is in a comma or un-conciouse has no controle over their mind so it does what it always does......."think".

We someone tells us about a near deah experice and how they went to heaven, and say Jesus and on and on.......all that does is to make them appear to be more spiritual than everyone else.

Hebrews 9:27
"And it is appointed unto men once to die then the judgment".
And so therefore one is still judged by motive and many will say but Lord I did this and that and others came to know you, and the Lord says go away you, me and anyone else that has wrong motives I (CHRIST speaking) never knew you
So what would be the correct Motive God amy be looking for before God reveals truth to anyone and sets them free

Could it be this written below?

"Comfort Me by letting Me know that you would see Me just to dwell in My Presence. Not for teaching, not for material gain, not even for a message, but for Me. The longing of the human heart to be loved for itself is something caught from the Great Divine Heart."

And this would be the purpose for NDE whether from God or not, those that preach sincerely and those that do not either way I sahll glory in both for Christ is being preached