Once Saved, Always Saved ... OR Can you Lose your Salvation?
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Your not listening to a word anyone says, this is why I ignored you before. Keep it up and you will be there again.
What work did you do to save yourself?
What work did you do to bring you to th point of belief.
What work did you do to allow yourself to trust in christ.
what work did you do to have the opportunity to believe to begin with?
What work did you do to save yourself?
What work did you do to bring you to th point of belief.
What work did you do to allow yourself to trust in christ.
what work did you do to have the opportunity to believe to begin with?
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YOU believed.
NOt God the Father, not Jesus......YOU believed.
But for some reason it's not a work of self righteousness when you do it, but it is when a not once saved always saved person does it.
He worked it in you, but YOU did the believing. YOU did it. He made it possible for YOU to do that.
Yes, listen to what you're saying........"MY faith" (I know you mean 'believing'). YOUR believing is based on the trustworthiness of God.
That's kind of a given.......if faith (believing) fails it is no longer faith.
It is quite possible to reject God's gift of faith and stop believing. The Galatians, the Corinthians, and the Hebrew churches did. Paul jumped through hoops to bring them back. The serpent is always looking for ways to get us to abandon our belief and trust in the forgiveness of Christ.
My believing is mine. The faith to do that believing is from God. That's why I can not boast. That hardly negates the fact that I do the believing. God makes it possible for ME to do the believing that is required to be saved and stay saved-1 Corinthians 15:2.
NOt God the Father, not Jesus......YOU believed.
But for some reason it's not a work of self righteousness when you do it, but it is when a not once saved always saved person does it.
He worked it in you, but YOU did the believing. YOU did it. He made it possible for YOU to do that.
Yes, listen to what you're saying........"MY faith" (I know you mean 'believing'). YOUR believing is based on the trustworthiness of God.
That's kind of a given.......if faith (believing) fails it is no longer faith.
It is quite possible to reject God's gift of faith and stop believing. The Galatians, the Corinthians, and the Hebrew churches did. Paul jumped through hoops to bring them back. The serpent is always looking for ways to get us to abandon our belief and trust in the forgiveness of Christ.
My believing is mine. The faith to do that believing is from God. That's why I can not boast. That hardly negates the fact that I do the believing. God makes it possible for ME to do the believing that is required to be saved and stay saved-1 Corinthians 15:2.
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Oh God sis, stay away from that bible it is full of errors. We tried to use it in CHurch because of the ease of reading and modern english, which we thought helped the youngert generation, but we had to stop because to many places we had to correct. And go back to the king james or nasb to correct. Or go to the greek, then find out there was error. So the church stopped using it
Well...you are the one who thinks it is so important to define belief differently than "trust." I think (as concerns us believers), that faith, trust and belief all mean trust. This is why I do not take credit for my belief - because I know it was a gift.
But you do not think your belief was a gift but was a choice.
I'm fine with how you see it. You, however, don't seem to be real fine with how I see it. Because you're doodyhead.
But you do not think your belief was a gift but was a choice.
I'm fine with how you see it. You, however, don't seem to be real fine with how I see it. Because you're doodyhead.
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I not gettin on dat ride again sir. 
It just becomes an argument on the three definitions, which as you know, I believe that all three mean the same thing- trust.
It just becomes an argument on the three definitions, which as you know, I believe that all three mean the same thing- trust.
I know you do, and if you believe that salvation can be lost because we stop believing, that that would explain why.
Again, Belief CAN mean trust (believe in the name of Jesus) it can also just mean knowledge, You never responded to my examples I gave, did you see them?