ONE Doctrine , With NO Divisions.;

[Nick1939]

Hi Doulos, In Answer to your Respond,That I Doubt The Word Of God;...You Are Wrong. I Don't Doubt God But Man Who Mishandling The Word Of God. Such As Isaiah 5:20-21 2nd Cor 11:12-15 2nd Pet 3:16,Those are Whom I doubt,And As I Refering To 1st John 5:7 Which You Swallow As Truth, While Even The Catholic Bible Admit That This Verse Has Being Inserted By The ( Holy See) And YOU Wilfully Ignore That Fact,As You DO also Mat 28:19.Since It Contradict Luke 24:47,And Acts 2:38,Rom 6:3.That Jesus Died For Our Sins,And NOT God The Father, Nor The HOLY SPIRIT. Therefore Water Baptism Was And Should Be Done in The NAME Of Jesus..However Your point Of View is Clouding And Contradict The Truth. My Admonition to you is By the Love Of Christ, That You Repent and Lay Hold Of The Truth, And The Truth Shall Make FREE,John8:31-36....As For Your Accusation That I Speak Profane Babbling ,Thing This That Others DID This NOT ME, I Only Try To Unscramble Their Doings,Do You Have A Problem With This?,For Me Doing 1st Thes 5:21 To Prove ALL Things,And 1st John 4:1 To Test The Spirits;And Titus 2:15,These Things Speak And Exhort With ALL Authority, Let NO MAN Despise Thee And 2nd Cor 2 Cor 13:8 For We Can Do Nothing Against The Truth But For The Truth, And Gal 4:16 Am I Therefore Become Your Enemy Because I Tell you The TRUTH? I Hope Not..... God Bless......

 

[doulos]

Hi Doulos, In Answer to your Respond,That I Doubt The Word Of God;...You Are Wrong. I Don't Doubt God But Man Who Mishandling The Word Of God. Such As Isaiah 5:20-21 2nd Cor 11:12-15 2nd Pet 3:16,Those are Whom I doubt,And As I Refering To 1st John 5:7 Which You Swallow As Truth, While Even The Catholic Bible Admit That This Verse Has Being Inserted By The ( Holy See) And YOU Wilfully Ignore That Fact,As You DO also Mat 28:19.Since It Contradict Luke 24:47,And Acts 2:38,Rom 6:3.That Jesus Died For Our Sins,And NOT God The Father, Nor The HOLY SPIRIT. Therefore Water Baptism Was And Should Be Done in The NAME Of Jesus..However Your point Of View is Clouding And Contradict The Truth. My Admonition to you is By the Love Of Christ, That You Repent and Lay Hold Of The Truth, And The Truth Shall Make FREE,John8:31-36....As For Your Accusation That I Speak Profane Babbling ,Thing This That Others DID This NOT ME, I Only Try To Unscramble Their Doings,Do You Have A Problem With This?,For Me Doing 1st Thes 5:21 To Prove ALL Things,And 1st John 4:1 To Test The Spirits;And Titus 2:15,These Things Speak And Exhort With ALL Authority, Let NO MAN Despise Thee And 2nd Cor 2 Cor 13:8 For We Can Do Nothing Against The Truth But For The Truth, And Gal 4:16 Am I Therefore Become Your Enemy Because I Tell you The TRUTH? I Hope Not..... God Bless......

Psa 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation forever.
Psa 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
Pro 30:5-6 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest here prove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Rev 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


Yes the truth shall make us free and the truth is
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

When Scripture appears to contradict Scripture it is our understanding that is flawed, not the Scriptures. It is our duty as Christians to “ Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness” (2Ti2:15-16).

One can either believe God preserved His word as He said He would, or not. The choice is yours, if you choose not to believe it, it is to your detriment not mine! Those who doubt the Scriptures, doubt God! Isn’t it time you shun the profane babblings that lead you to believe Mat28:19 is in error and instead study to shew thyself approved rightly dividing the word of truth?


As you are led friend, as you are led!

 

[Nick1939]

Hi Doulos, In Answer to These Verses,That you Mentioned Pr30:5-6 Det4:2 Rev 22:18-19 2nd Tim3:16 2nd Tim 2:15..I Have NO Problem With Them, But YOU DO,..And If you Please ,Let Me Show Your Inconsistency , 1st It Says NOT To ADD,To His Word,It Does Not SayThat They Won't Do It,But Rather Not To Do It......2nd And Foremost you Sent Me To 2nd Tim 2:15 to Rightly Divide the Word,What you Want me to divide,if the Word is Pure Clean And Perfect,And Has NO error in It?...And is Free From Mans Manipulation ; Please For your Shake And Others Consider The Following Verses ,And Give Me An Answer ....Acts 15:24 Note these Were With The Apostles ,1st John2:18-19,. And Finally 2nd Thes 2:2 Not To Be Soon Shaken In Mind ,Or Troubled,Either By Spirit Or By Word,Or By LETTER AS from US,..Now YOU DO The Math And dividing Of 2nd Tim 2:15,And While You Are Puzzle At The Above,Check This Also,Mat 19:3-9.....Don't you Accept Moses Writings As Scriptures?..Jesus Seems To Disagree With The Pharisees On Moses Writings.... God Bless...

 

[doulos]

Hi Doulos, In Answer to These Verses,That you Mentioned Pr30:5-6 Det4:2 Rev 22:18-19 2nd Tim3:16 2nd Tim 2:15..I Have NO Problem With Them, But YOU DO,..And If you Please ,Let Me Show Your Inconsistency , 1st It Says NOT To ADD,To His Word,It Does Not SayThat They Won't Do It,But Rather Not To Do It......2nd And Foremost you Sent Me To 2nd Tim 2:15 to Rightly Divide the Word,What you Want me to divide,if the Word is Pure Clean And Perfect,And Has NO error in It?...And is Free From Mans Manipulation ; Please For your Shake And Others Consider The Following Verses ,And Give Me An Answer ....Acts 15:24 Note these Were With The Apostles ,1st John2:18-19,. And Finally 2nd Thes 2:2 Not To Be Soon Shaken In Mind ,Or Troubled,Either By Spirit Or By Word,Or By LETTER AS from US,..Now YOU DO The Math And dividing Of 2nd Tim 2:15,And While You Are Puzzle At The Above,Check This Also,Mat 19:3-9.....Don't you Accept Moses Writings As Scriptures?..Jesus Seems To Disagree With The Pharisees On Moses Writings.... God Bless...

As you are led friend, as you are led! If you choose to search for reasons to doubt the Scriptures you will find no shortage of reasons. If you want to continue to ignore the verses that don't fit your false doctrine and ignore the instructions Christ Himself gave that is your right, afterall God gave us free will to decide to believe or to disbelieve.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mat_10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
As for me I think it is time to shake the dust off my feet and leave you to your false doctrines as discussion appears to be only strebgthening your resolve to avoid the truth.

 

[secularhermit]

(...) Those who doubt the Scriptures, doubt God! (...)

I see just this point!

It is like saying that you have the original version of the Bible. That one without the introduction of Chapters and the division of verses...

Aren´t these few things added a clue of those that could have come creepyly?

Divisions are set to ease study, Bible study also.
denominations are curtains and divisions... God could have updated the Scripture in more than 2000 years. Has he?

But I see many still using the KJV (or the Reina -Valera here).

Just 2 points to say nothing.

 

[doulos]

just 2 points to say nothing.

And that is exactly what you have added to the discussion, nothing. Chapter divisions and numbering the verses does not change, add or subtract to the words that God inspired the authors of Scripture to write.

As for as God updating the Scriptures in the last 2000 years why would He?
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

If you would like to join, Nick1939, or OneJack because you prefer to follow the supposed private revelations of men over the 1600 year testimony of the prophets through Christ as recorded in Scripture so that you can stand against the core beliefs of Christianity for the last 2000 years, then by all means as you are led friend, as you are led!

 

[overcomer2]

I do believe it is possible. Where there are no divisions I mean denominations. One truth and one way.

 

[Nick1939]

Hi Doulos, In Respond To your Exhausted Statements ,Look Like You Runout Answers With Proves ,That is Why You Shake The Dust,It Only Prove That You Don't Have The Mouth And Wisdom Which The Lord Promise to Give ,Luke 21:15 That The Adversary Will NOT Be Able To contradict Or Resist, As Also Col 4:6 1st Pet 3:15..It Is Not Profitable To Throw Scriptures At Eachother,Lest We Be Consume One Of Another Gal5:15 It Is Ease To throw Verses at each Other,But To Edify one Is Hard.And That is What We Should Pursue After To Edification , Which You Try To Discourage ,Secularhermit,OneJack,And Others,Because Are Open Minded,Take Heed Of Mat 23:13 Don't Do The Works Of The Pharisees ,And As Isaiah 8:20 Says , To The Law ( 2 or Three Witness ) And To The Testimony ,If They Speak Not According To This Word, It Is Because There Is NO LIGHT In Them.Therefore I Admonish To Reconsider your Position , Before Titus 3:10...He That Hath An Ear Let Him Hear..

God Bless....

 

[doulos]

Hi Doulos, In Respond To your Exhausted Statements ,Look Like You Runout Answers With Proves ,That is Why You Shake The Dust,It Only Prove That You Don't Have The Mouth And Wisdom Which The Lord Promise to Give

If that's what you need to tell yourself, instead of accepting what was said then by all means as you are led friend, as you are led! Bye bye!

 

[Nick1939]

Hi Doulos, In Respond To Your Acuzation Of Ignoring The Scriptures; Well Acording To You Eny One That Don't Agree With You Is Ignorant Of The Scriptures, But As For Me I Rather Ignore The Insertion Of Mat 28:19 As The Apostles DID In Acts 2:38 Which You Ignore Their Service To The Lord For Baptizing In His Name Only, Yet Their Names Are Written In The 12 Foundations Fo The New Jerusalem, Yap, I Rather Take That Approch , Now WHO Ignores The Scriptures;.....God Bless..

 

[Crazylove]

IT Makes one Wonder,Out of around 300 Christian Doctrines , Which one IS the DOCTRINE of Christ? Which If one Don't have it,Has NO God.2 John 9,. This is Important Question, I compare With Paul's Question, 1 Cor 1:13 , Is Christ Divided?. And why he asked that; IS Because some Christians were calling Themselves after Paul,Cephas ,Apollos,even Christ; And Paul Rebuked them ,That they were carnal and not spiritual 1 Cor 3:1-4. One can not help wonder ,that if Paul rebuked them for having 4 Divisions ,What would he Say if he was here today with 300 and growing DIVISIONS ?.NO division,1 Cor 1:10,Rom 15:5, Phil 1:27,2:2, 20,.NO other doctrine, 1 Tim 1:3 6:3 4:16-17, NO Other Gospel ,which is Not Another,Gal 1:6-9, If one does not have the doctrine of Christ,HAS NO GOD.he that has the doctrine of Christ Has both the Father and the Son. And I compare that with John 17:21-23,which says , I in them,and thou in me, that they may be perfect in ONE.That is the ONE I am referring to, who can help? God bless...

When u go into any church and they take u in this is prof that th church is still one. I've attended tons of denominations and nvr been rejected. We all believe in God, His Son who saves us, and His Spirit that fills us; this is what makes us one. Would God deny Christ request? I think not

 

[Apostol2013]

The true doctrine is apostolic in ministry as written Christ being the chief apostle above all but the apostles and prophets set the foundation of the Gospel

 

[Apostol2013]

And what you see today is nothing of what is written in Paul's letter as concerning the church goverment

 

[Apostol2013]

Hi Doulos, In Respond To your Exhausted Statements ,Look Like You Runout Answers With Proves ,That is Why You Shake The Dust,It Only Prove That You Don't Have The Mouth And Wisdom Which The Lord Promise to Give ,Luke 21:15 That The Adversary Will NOT Be Able To contradict Or Resist, As Also Col 4:6 1st Pet 3:15..It Is Not Profitable To Throw Scriptures At Eachother,Lest We Be Consume One Of Another Gal5:15 It Is Ease To throw Verses at each Other,But To Edify one Is Hard.And That is What We Should Pursue After To Edification , Which You Try To Discourage ,Secularhermit,OneJack,And Others,Because Are Open Minded,Take Heed Of Mat 23:13 Don't Do The Works Of The Pharisees ,And As Isaiah 8:20 Says , To The Law ( 2 or Three Witness ) And To The Testimony ,If They Speak Not According To This Word, It Is Because There Is NO LIGHT In Them.Therefore I Admonish To Reconsider your Position , Before Titus 3:10...He That Hath An Ear Let Him Hear..

God Bless....

Now brethren now watch how the scriptures get thrown around but speak edification speak love wich is truth not said yo call anuone worthless for you remember what the lord said concefning that lest you be in dangee of the fires of hell but repent.and apologize learn to speak as with wisdom remenber most are as little children in understanding as much knowledge they might pocess

 

[Nick1939]

Now brethren now watch how the scriptures get thrown around but speak edification speak love wich is truth not said yo call anuone worthless for you remember what the lord said concefning that lest you be in dangee of the fires of hell but repent.and apologize learn to speak as with wisdom remenber most are as little children in understanding as much knowledge they might pocess

A postol2013, Show me on what scripture I should repent or that I should apologize and if I am in error I be glad to do it,
but you need to show me what scriptures I offend first....God bless.....

 

[2Thewaters]

Doctine is false or true

Jesus doctine will fall like latter rain on those who believe his word

Deu 32:2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:
Deu 32:3 Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.
Deu 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.


Notice GOD is right
the BIBLE is right

to find a doctrine read every verse on the Bible

some are trained meticulously which verses , usually 2 or three out of 800 or so in the Bible
they are trained meticulously to know whech 2,3 verses can, if put togethter, can be used to twist the meaning of the scriptures

these are people in seminaries

there are HUNDREDS of seminaries, some twist one way and some twist another so that their belief structure appears to stand on the Bible

all the flase ones will fall if you just look up every Bible verse on a topic and weight them

sure there are two or three that were translated a bit strange where they could have chosen another word the liked but they didnt

just look up the origianl mening of the word, and look up all the verses there is the doctrine..
there it is

but no one will do that for they have to have an income and unfortunately they were trained in false doctrine aand the pressure is to ignore and obfuscate

just like Babylon and tower of babel everyone is speaking a different language

and the LORD JESUS CHRIST GOD ALMIGHTY tells us in the book of revelation
SO IT WILL REMAIN!
the world smorgasboard of Babylon confuesed cdoctrines will remain until he DESTROYS THEM
they WILL NOT REPENT

revelatin says many times THEY WILL NOT REPENT they are proud and they are nummerous and they will try and kill anyone who follows the Bible exactly who exposes them

that is what JESUS says

so sayin on a web post
"O MY, we should all just get along"
is antichrist
they arent going to get along they are oging to , like others in the past Overlook their differences and unite on one issue that they have in common...

and there is only one or two issues that all churches have in common!

what are they?
tell me

The NAME JESUS, The BIBLE any little part of it counts but NEVER THE WHOLE THING!, and the day of the pope that the pope invented

thats it

Bible says that is what they will try and unite on

they will unite on error...

There will be a few remnants who keep the commandments

that obviously means the majority rejects them...

right?

where will you stand?

 

[StoneThrower]

IT Makes one Wonder,Out of around 300 Christian Doctrines , Which one IS the DOCTRINE of Christ? .

I believe you would find Paul saying You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you?
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!

 

[Jackson123]

It will one doctrine when we meet Him face to face. Now every body have they own mistake. But there is a basic doctrine we suppose agree:

Jesus is the only savior, Just follow Him than you save.

How to follow Him, on this part will be a lot of divisions.

But don't go to far, for example worship saint will consider to far. I have an internet bible discussion friend, he tell me, he owe a lot to st Joseph. He regularly communicated with him and he(st Joseph ) help a lot in solving his problem.

That what I mean by go to far. I fell sorry to this dear friend, because he is a victim of the false doctrine. It goes to far where we can tolerate any more as consider a christian.

I believe he is not communicate with st Joseph. He communicated with a demon. So my dear friend is devil worshiper and not a christian. I Love him, he just a victim.