PERFECT IN GOD'S EYES

[joaniemarie]

Only the obedient are granted grace. Some people say "Well that's earning it." But it's not. Nothing we can do can earn it. Let me give you an example...

I go to the bank and say "I washed my dishes and swept my floor, so please give me a penny toward the price of a mansion, and I will keep going back to my house to do things to earn more pennies." And they say "I'm sorry, that just does not earn anything, and even if it could, pennies are not even in the ballpark of enough for a mansion."

Was it effort? Yes. Did my efforts earn anything? No.

So I go back to the bank, and discover there is a whole group of people doing what I did. And another group shows up, who put forth no effort. Because they heard on the radio that a rich man was coming to this bank to give away a million dollars. When the rich man arrives, he has his assistant interview people. He asked one guy "Did you clean your house today." He said "No, that's woman's work, I just sit down and have my wife bring me a beer while she does that stuff." The assistant then gave him a black shirt. "Thanks man." he said.

After all the interviews, the rich man said for all those wearing white shirts to step to the right, and those wearing black shirts to step toward the left. Then he spoke to the white shirt crowd and said "All that I have I choose to share with each of you wearing a white shirt. They cheered, as the other crowd complained it wasn't fair. But the rich man said to them "My money, my choice, I can give it to whomever I choose- and I choose them."

In no way did they earn it, it was a gift.

I'm sorry OneFath., but that makes no sense to me and it's not what the Bible says is God's Way of saving souls. His Way is Jesus because Jesus is the Way...the Truth and the life... Jesus brought grace and truth.
Grace can't be earned., it's given without condition or merit or earning it. It's FREE

According to your story here., those who did well got the white shirts., those who didn't do well got black shirts. That is putting aside the One Who did alllll the work.... Jesus., and He gives us the white shirts.

The Bible says in John 1:11-13
[SUP]11 [/SUP]He came unto [SUP][a][/SUP]his own, and they that were his own received him not.

[SUP]12 [/SUP]But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of God, even to them that believe on his name:

[SUP]13 [/SUP]who were [SUP][b][/SUP]born, not of [SUP][c][/SUP]blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

[loveme1]

Only the obedient are granted grace. Some people say "Well that's earning it." But it's not. Nothing we can do can earn it. Let me give you an example...

I go to the bank and say "I washed my dishes and swept my floor, so please give me a penny toward the price of a mansion, and I will keep going back to my house to do things to earn more pennies." And they say "I'm sorry, that just does not earn anything, and even if it could, pennies are not even in the ballpark of enough for a mansion."

Was it effort? Yes. Did my efforts earn anything? No.

So I go back to the bank, and discover there is a whole group of people doing what I did. And another group shows up, who put forth no effort. Because they heard on the radio that a rich man was coming to this bank to give away a million dollars. When the rich man arrives, he has his assistant interview people. He asked one guy "Did you clean your house today." He said "No, that's woman's work, I just sit down and have my wife bring me a beer while she does that stuff." The assistant then gave him a black shirt. "Thanks man." he said.

After all the interviews, the rich man said for all those wearing white shirts to step to the right, and those wearing black shirts to step toward the left. Then he spoke to the white shirt crowd and said "All that I have I choose to share with each of you wearing a white shirt. They cheered, as the other crowd complained it wasn't fair. But the rich man said to them "My money, my choice, I can give it to whomever I choose- and I choose them."

In no way did they earn it, it was a gift.

I think I receive this well.

Reminds me of those found without the wedding garment on.

 

[PennEd]

Only the obedient are granted grace. Some people say "Well that's earning it." But it's not. Nothing we can do can earn it. Let me give you an example...

I go to the bank and say "I washed my dishes and swept my floor, so please give me a penny toward the price of a mansion, and I will keep going back to my house to do things to earn more pennies." And they say "I'm sorry, that just does not earn anything, and even if it could, pennies are not even in the ballpark of enough for a mansion."

Was it effort? Yes. Did my efforts earn anything? No.

So I go back to the bank, and discover there is a whole group of people doing what I did. And another group shows up, who put forth no effort. Because they heard on the radio that a rich man was coming to this bank to give away a million dollars. When the rich man arrives, he has his assistant interview people. He asked one guy "Did you clean your house today." He said "No, that's woman's work, I just sit down and have my wife bring me a beer while she does that stuff." The assistant then gave him a black shirt. "Thanks man." he said.

After all the interviews, the rich man said for all those wearing white shirts to step to the right, and those wearing black shirts to step toward the left. Then he spoke to the white shirt crowd and said "All that I have I choose to share with each of you wearing a white shirt. They cheered, as the other crowd complained it wasn't fair. But the rich man said to them "My money, my choice, I can give it to whomever I choose- and I choose them."

In no way did they earn it, it was a gift.

Wow! I'm sorry, but this could be the worst analogy of God's redemptive plan I've ever heard.

This whole post is about gaining salvation by works.

 

[joaniemarie]

What I've finally discovered about Jesus and His grace is that just as we received Him so we are to walk in Him. Letting go of all our ideas of doing something to be worthy. We not only dump the "us" in this salvation equation and follow after the Good Shepherd of our lives but we do the same once we are saved., dump the "us" in this works equation we humans have devised and follow after the Good Shepherd. Looking to Jesus...the Author and Finisher of our faith.

We dump the us and follow after Jesus and when He leads through a stream., we go through the stream., when He goes through the field., we go through the field. And so on and so forth. We don't get credit for the job that the One who leads us did. We get the joy of following and that keeps us following after Him. And He blesses us for following. Grace is getting all that we don't deserve and we implement that grace by recognizing it is Him., not us who makes us worthy to be called the sons of God. Even the Holy Spirit is appointed to keep pointing us to Jesus. How can we do any less??

 

[joaniemarie]

It's required of us to step OVER to the faith in the finished work of Christ side. To basically shed off the whole human safety valve or human life preserver of the value of our good works and step out into the unknown called "faith" The Lord Jesus meets us there. The Holy Spirit flows in and through us there. Taking that step is major to peace and joy and fruit of and in the Holy Spirit.

 

[loveme1]

It's required of us to step OVER to the faith in the finished work of Christ side. To basically shed off the whole human safety valve or human life preserver of the value of our good works and step out into the unknown called "faith" The Lord Jesus meets us there. The Holy Spirit flows in and through us there. Taking that step is major to peace and joy and fruit of and in the Holy Spirit.

I believe it to be born from the Faith of Christ's finished work... to believe that to call Him Lord and be accepted we are to Keep His works through Faith... knowing that is what He said those that Love Him do.. I think anyone not setting their heart to believe are trying to have something from the King that they do not appreciate enough to obey Him and set their heart to hear and do. The King gave the Royal law and will judge us accordingly. Let us be counted worthy to walk in white with Him.

 

[joaniemarie]

I believe it to be born from the Faith of Christ's finished work... to believe that to call Him Lord and be accepted we are to Keep His works through Faith... knowing that is what He said those that Love Him do.. I think anyone not setting their heart to believe are trying to have something from the King that they do not appreciate enough to obey Him and set their heart to hear and do. The King gave the Royal law and will judge us accordingly. Let us be counted worthy to walk in white with Him.

But that's the thing., we are now worthy because we are IN Christ. That is what makes us worthy. He has made us worthy. We can't make ourselves worthy. He has given us a new heart. The works we do come after our salvation and even then., we do them by the power of the Holy Spirit who works in us to will and to do of His good pleasure.

Our worthiness comes from Jesus and not our hard work and effort to be grateful to Jesus. As good as that sounds it is not the way. The Way is Christ. Our "new" hearts are set and we grow up by working out the faith He gave us at the time of our salvation.

And not only that we are JOYFUL as we work out what Christ has worked in us. We don't work ourselves to do and be. We already 'are' and must recon it to be so. By faith we please God. Without faith., it is impossible to please God. Faith in what? JESUS. When we acknowledge Jesus we please the Father. It is an awesome thing to realize the gift of salvation in this way. We no longer strive to attain. We already have. We don't fight "for" victory., we fight "from" victory.

It really makes a difference how we see this. If we think we are fighting evil and the flesh in our own strength., we will be soon be exhausted and fail. We are by faith keeping the ground Jesus paid for us to have. We are learning about Jesus and the promises He gave us and how much God loves us in Him. We will be learning all through our lives. We have this treasure in earthen vessels. And He knows our frame that we are but dust. Yet He works in us Philippians 2:13
[SUP]
13 [/SUP]For it is [not your strength, but it is] [SUP][a][/SUP]God who is effectively at work in you, both to will and to work [that is, strengthening, energizing, and creating in you the longing and the ability to fulfill your purpose] for His good pleasure.


He has even created in us that longing when we got our new hearts. We will be learning about our new man in Christ as we go along in this life. It bears repeating., we work out what Christ Jesus has already worked IN us. He has worked in us Love., we work it out... He worked in us Peace... we work it out....He has worked in us righteousness... we work it out... etc...

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I believe it to be born from the Faith of Christ's finished work... to believe that to call Him Lord and be accepted we are to Keep His works through Faith... knowing that is what He said those that Love Him do.. I think anyone not setting their heart to believe are trying to have something from the King that they do not appreciate enough to obey Him and set their heart to hear and do. The King gave the Royal law and will judge us accordingly. Let us be counted worthy to walk in white with Him.

you know, if I'm not mistaken, some of this 'we don't do anything, Jesus does/did it all, teaching comes from the teaching that Jesus taught law and so we don't 'listen' or take to heart all that He had to say

frankly, this

To basically shed off the whole human safety valve or human life preserver of the value of our good works and step out into the unknown called "faith"

sounds more like some sort of metaphysical blather than an actual description of biblical faith. apparently though, if we do not accept this sort of teaching, we are relegated to a 'religious mindset' and are still under law

I've seen variations on this teaching throughout the forum, with different understandings, depending on who is posting, because the obvious glitch to this teaching, is that there is no frame of reference...anything goes...unlike the definitive and constructive teaching of Christ

emotions seem to run this thing, not sound doctrine, and even mentioning doctrine can result in an emotional and imbalanced retrospect of the poster's (again depending on who is posting) personal thoughts which are assumed, it seems, we are to take as God's own truth

back to the quote above, calling faith the unknown and works a human life preserver is so far off the charts as to be getting close to the ridiculous. the Bible defines faith...and works are not the bogeyman and the undoing of faith

this is really bad teaching IMO and again, the emotions seem to like to set anchor in it and set sail 'into the unknown' as stated. discernment is tossed overboard as too much weight and for a while it's all good as most deceptions are

when payday comes though, and it will, the emotions will not serve well.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

But that's the thing., we are now worthy because we are IN Christ. That is what makes us worthy. He has made us worthy. We can't make ourselves worthy. He has given us a new heart. The works we do come after our salvation and even then., we do them by the power of the Holy Spirit who works in us to will and to do of His good pleasure.

Our worthiness comes from Jesus and not our hard work and effort to be grateful to Jesus. As good as that sounds it is not the way. The Way is Christ. Our "new" hearts are set and we grow up by working out the faith He gave us at the time of our salvation.

And not only that we are JOYFUL as we work out what Christ has worked in us. We don't work ourselves to do and be. We already 'are' and must recon it to be so. By faith we please God. Without faith., it is impossible to please God. Faith in what? JESUS. When we acknowledge Jesus we please the Father. It is an awesome thing to realize the gift of salvation in this way. We no longer strive to attain. We already have. We don't fight "for" victory., we fight "from" victory.

It really makes a difference how we see this. If we think we are fighting evil and the flesh in our own strength., we will be soon be exhausted and fail. We are by faith keeping the ground Jesus paid for us to have. We are learning about Jesus and the promises He gave us and how much God loves us in Him. We will be learning all through our lives. We have this treasure in earthen vessels. And He knows our frame that we are but dust. Yet He works in us Philippians 2:13
[SUP]
13 [/SUP]For it is [not your strength, but it is] [SUP][a][/SUP]God who is effectively at work in you, both to will and to work [that is, strengthening, energizing, and creating in you the longing and the ability to fulfill your purpose] for His good pleasure.


He has even created in us that longing when we got our new hearts. We will be learning about our new man in Christ as we go along in this life. It bears repeating., we work out what Christ Jesus has already worked IN us. He has worked in us Love., we work it out... He worked in us Peace... we work it out....He has worked in us righteousness... we work it out... etc...

yeah I think most of us know our position in Christ which is what you do not seem to allow to sink in as post after post from you seems to indicate

no one has ever said we create our own worthiness. that is NOT the understanding we have, although it sure enough seems to be the understanding that you have about those who do not agree with the basics of Prince doctrine. you are simply wrong there

it almost sounds as though you are still trying to convince yourself here, about what you believe or what Prince teaches

personally, I need no convincing of Christ's perfect salvation or the fact that works do not save and do not keep one saved

as far as sin goes, I guess we just ignore what Jesus said about leaving your gift at the altar?

we just don't even bother with reconciliation then cause Jesus was 'under the law' ?

listen, salvation and sanctification is not a process akin to osmosis. this is absolute error and a really bad understanding of the process

I hope you can avoid responding, if you choose to respond, with half a page of emotional renderings. our salvation is not based on emotions either, yet that seems to be the platform from which you appeal with Princes' teachings

the Bible will stand, but this type of doctrine will not. it may 'sound' good, but it is a shell of truth stuffed with a lie

it's not the gospel. yes, Jesus died for future sins...in those not even born...but ignoring the fact that we are told to confess our sins...which was written AFTER Jesus ascended, may appeal to the insecure, but the insecure need to get some SOLID teaching under the belt and quit running after 'every wind of doctrine'

 

[joaniemarie]

Truth is not rooted in our feelings. Truth changes our beliefs and opinions and feelings through the power of the Holy Spirit. And you shall know the truth., and the truth shall set you free. He who the Son has set free is free indeed. If I've said anything , it was to that effect. AMEN!

 

[loveme1]

Truth is not rooted in our feelings. Truth changes our beliefs and opinions and feelings through the power of the Holy Spirit. And you shall know the truth., and the truth shall set you free. He who the Son has set free is free indeed. If I've said anything , it was to that effect. AMEN!

Joanie the Truth is that we are saved by Grace through Faith.. it is where that Truth continues.. as in Grow in Grace and knowledge of Christ.

Believe and the power of GOD is life through the Spirit while we abide in the mortal awaiting the immortal which is at the last Trump.

Christ is the author of eternal salvation to them that obey Him.

Faith that worketh by love.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Truth is not rooted in our feelings. Truth changes our beliefs and opinions and feelings through the power of the Holy Spirit. And you shall know the truth., and the truth shall set you free. He who the Son has set free is free indeed. If I've said anything , it was to that effect. AMEN!

right

here you quote Jesus' words

yet another time, ignore them as does Prince

that's not working

 

[joaniemarie]

Ok, you believe our sins of the past, present, and future and forgiven and we obey Christ out of love. That faith produces fruit. Correct?

Now with Joseph Prince it seems he's trying to push perfectionism or he's trying to say sinning is not a problem, sinnng is a problem, because it's still wrong and we need to acknowledge that so we can do as Christ wants us to do.

You're right, but I'm not so sure about Joseph Prince.

Be sure to use discernment with those TBN preachers.

I've listened to many preachers over the years and usually enjoy settling on the ones that hold to the same things I find in Scripture. Things like salvation by grace through faith., the gifts of the Spirit and basically the 7 fold ministry. The security of the believer., inerrancy of the Scriptures. , The Deity of Christ., etc... So that is why I like listening to JP. His ministry has blessed me over the many years I've been listening and I've learned a lot.

So contrary to popular opinion,, I know what I believe and why and that is why I occasionally post these devotionals. To encourage as I've been encouraged. So many believers don't even know we are in a new covenant of grace and are still living under the law. So It's been a good experience for me to come here occasionally and share what has been a blessing. Amen!

 

[joaniemarie]

reposted from another of my posts....
Those who call our attention to our obedience while sounding totally logical., it's actually not Holy Spiritual. We have to get to the point where we by pass our 'fear' of His grace and truth being our standard and not our good or bad behavior. This is not a cop out but a step of faith. And one needed in order to really begin this mind transformation that does not look to human logic but to Holy Spirit teaching using the Bible and rightly dividing the Word of Truth.

How many Christians do you know who can point to verses that by-pass the truth that Jesus will never leave us or forsake us? Did you know that we are our own worse enemy? That our own confusion is compounded by the devil and world? That those 3 the world, the flesh and the devil combined will stop us from proceeding into the world of walking by faith and not by sight? Those 3 will stop us from proceeding to believe that Jesus holds us in His hand and that is the ONLY thing that holds us.



This is the good fight of faith to actually dare to believe His grace is sufficient in all matters of our life. It begins with the step of not looking to our flesh and it's good works.. or bad works.

 

[OneFaith]

I'm sorry OneFath., but that makes no sense to me and it's not what the Bible says is God's Way of saving souls. His Way is Jesus because Jesus is the Way...the Truth and the life... Jesus brought grace and truth.
Grace can't be earned., it's given without condition or merit or earning it. It's FREE

According to your story here., those who did well got the white shirts., those who didn't do well got black shirts. That is putting aside the One Who did alllll the work.... Jesus., and He gives us the white shirts.

The Bible says in John 1:11-13
[SUP]11 [/SUP]He came unto [SUP][a][/SUP]his own, and they that were his own received him not.

[SUP]12 [/SUP]But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of God, even to them that believe on his name:

[SUP]13 [/SUP]who were [SUP][b][/SUP]born, not of [SUP][c][/SUP]blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

You obviously didn't understand my post. 'Not born of the flesh or a husband's will' means not by physicality- I agree. We cannot earn it at all. He chooses to give grace (Christ's blood) to those who obey Him because their obedience cannot earn it. But He's not going to choose to give it to those who are disobedient.

Like in Noah's day He said that aside from Noah and his family, the people's thoughts were 100% evil 100% of the time- He's not going to give grace to them, but to those, like Noah's family, who are trying to obey God- even though both kind of people (the righteous and the unrighteous) commit sin- hense the need for grace in the first place.

Take the physical example God gives in the Old Testament Passover. If the Israelites would paint the blood of a perfect lamb on the entrances to their homes, the death angel would gracefully pass over them, not killing anyone inside. In the same way, if we are baptized into Christ, painting the blood of Christ on the entrances to our hearts, the second death will gracefully Passover us. It was a gift then, and a gift now, given only to those who obey God.

To say that obedience to God earns it, is to say obedience can earn it- when all of our efforts (which we must have) cannot earn anything. Because we sinned even once, our own blood is no longer innocent and pure, and cannot take away sin no matter how many good deeds we do. Our name is no longer in good standing- which is why we must call on the name of the Lord (baptism). We must now have God's grace which He only gives to those like Noah who are trying to obey Him.

 

[MarcR]

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YOU ARE PERFECT IN GOD’S EYES

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God sees you with no flaw, spot or imperfection, so honor His Word and the finished work of His Son by saying, “Amen!” Don’t doubt your perfection in Christ.

To see yourself as far from being perfect is not modesty, but a failure to understand the perfect sacrifice that Jesus has made for you.

When you find yourself conscious of your sins, just say, “Thank You, Lord Jesus, for Your wonderful work at the cross. It is a perfect work that has removed all my sins complete[/QUOTE/]

This is a big error here, when the Spirit convicts us of sin we need to repent.

Our confession of sin and repentance happens at the time of Salvation. God does not expect us to keep track ot every sin and confess it individually; and we are probably not able to even if we wanted to. Jesus died for the sin of the world all at once. That includes ALL the sins of EVERYBODY saved or unsaved. The unsaved are those who reject His Sacrifice on their behalf.

This is NOT a license to sin. We are to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. If we do not submit ourselves to the changes that God seeks to make in us we will bring chastening on ourselves. If we persist in resisting God's efforts; we will be taken out of the world early. If we are not chastened occasionally it is evidence that God doesn't recognize us as His.

 

[MarcR]

Our confession of sin and repentance happens at the time of Salvation. God does not expect us to keep track ot every sin and confess it individually; and we are probably not able to even if we wanted to. Jesus died for the sin of the world all at once. That includes ALL the sins of EVERYBODY saved or unsaved. The unsaved are those who reject His Sacrifice on their behalf.

This is NOT a license to sin. We are to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. If we do not submit ourselves to the changes that God seeks to make in us we will bring chastening on ourselves. If we persist in resisting God's efforts; we will be taken out of the world early. If we are not chastened occasionally it is evidence that God doesn't recognize us as His.

Heb 12:5-11
5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
KJV
I apologize for the double post. I accidentally hit the post icon before I pasted in the Scripture and didn't catch it because I was in another program getting the Scripture.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I've listened to many preachers over the years and usually enjoy settling on the ones that hold to the same things I find in Scripture. Things like salvation by grace through faith., the gifts of the Spirit and basically the 7 fold ministry. The security of the believer., inerrancy of the Scriptures. , The Deity of Christ., etc... So that is why I like listening to JP. His ministry has blessed me over the many years I've been listening and I've learned a lot.

So contrary to popular opinion,, I know what I believe and why and that is why I occasionally post these devotionals. To encourage as I've been encouraged. So many believers don't even know we are in a new covenant of grace and are still living under the law. So It's been a good experience for me to come here occasionally and share what has been a blessing. Amen!

hmmm

no one said you don't know what you believe. what is being said, is that Prince has extended what is true beyond the borders of what biblical truth is

most people here will attest to God's faithfulness and His grace and love. these are believers who have proven God true and UNDERSTAND the scriptures and do not appreciate the over reaching misapplication of grace that Prince and several others apply. that, has always been the contention as you well know

again, this does not mean we do not understand grace nor what it means to be IN Christ nor any other biblical doctrine

again and again you respond as though the rest of us have missed something along the way, when in actuality, we are trying to point out the heresies being taught in some circles

you are aware of that, no doubt, being a regular contributor here at CC

so it would be appreciated if you would refrain from appearing to want to make it seem we are against grace

we are against the NON-biblical teaching of grace

 

[MarcR]

hmmm

no one said you don't know what you believe. what is being said, is that Prince has extended what is true beyond the borders of what biblical truth is

most people here will attest to God's faithfulness and His grace and love. these are believers who have proven God true and UNDERSTAND the scriptures and do not appreciate the over reaching misapplication of grace that Prince and several others apply. that, has always been the contention as you well know

again, this does not mean we do not understand grace nor what it means to be IN Christ nor any other biblical doctrine

again and again you respond as though the rest of us have missed something along the way, when in actuality, we are trying to point out the heresies being taught in some circles

you are aware of that, no doubt, being a regular contributor here at CC

so it would be appreciated if you would refrain from appearing to want to make it seem we are against grace

we are against the NON-biblical teaching of grace

I totally agree with your post; except that I don't see that in Prince's teaching.

I confess that my only contact with Prince's teaching has been 4 very uplifting posts by Joaniemarie.

 

[FlSnookman7]

Grace is such a difficult concept because it goes against what the world teaches us our entire lives and because it causes us to put aside our pride and ego and rely completely on Jesus. One of the posts here says we are only kept in grace so long as we continue to walk in the light. While I disagree, let's just say that is correct and see what the Word says about walking in the light..

Romans 8:9 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Seems to say there that the only requirement for being "in the Spirit" is to have God dwelling inside of us. If I remember correctly all who are saved have God (The Holy Spirit) dwelling inside of us.

Now, seeing as we are in fact in the Spirit because God indwells us and NOT because of what we do or do not do, lets take a look at what that means again...

Rom 8:1-4 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Remember, we who are saved do not "walk after the flesh" but after the Spirit BECAUSE God lives in us.

I thank God that it is for HIS good pleasure I was called to salvation as I was on of the most terrible sinners I knew before God saved me. I did nothing to earn it and in fact I didn't even know I wanted salvation. It was, is and will always be all God's work. I strive to be more righteous not out of fear of losing anything but out of my love for Him. That my love is so inferior to His love makes me strive all the more. Remember, none of us is saved just to be saved, we are saved to do the work of God for His glory.
Romans is such a wonderful teaching on grace, heres another part...

Rom 8:10 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

And one last one...


Rom 8:38-39 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

What a mighty God we serve!!