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So, why don't you? And then get back with us..........you can start with my church if you wish.....be glad to have you fellowship with us........
QUESTION: What reason OTHER THAN FAITH does a Christian have for doing anything? Even our obedience to His Commandments are based on FAITH........seriously, do you not see that FAITH IS one of the Cornerstones of Christianity for believers?
QUESTION: What reason OTHER THAN FAITH does a Christian have for doing anything? Even our obedience to His Commandments are based on FAITH........seriously, do you not see that FAITH IS one of the Cornerstones of Christianity for believers?
Scriptures showing these two have already been provided in this thread, and in the other threads about "tithing" in the Bible Studies Forum............If you did not believe them the first time, the second time, the third time..........they were given, why should we expect you to believe them now?
So, have you given up arguing Mosaic Law? Good.
So, have you given up arguing Mosaic Law? Good.
2nd Corinthians 5:6) Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord. 7 .) (For we walk by faith, not by sight.)
Ephesians 2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Romans 5:1) Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Romans 3:27) Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 .) Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 29 .) Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 30 .) Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. 31 .) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Acts 4:31) And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness. 32 .) And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33 .) And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34 .) Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 .) And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Luke 11:42) But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
1st Corinthians 9:13) Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? 14 .) Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
Ephesians 2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Romans 5:1) Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Romans 3:27) Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 .) Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 29 .) Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 30 .) Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. 31 .) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Acts 4:31) And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness. 32 .) And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33 .) And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34 .) Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 .) And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Luke 11:42) But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
1st Corinthians 9:13) Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? 14 .) Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
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And in all likelihood those are the people that you won't see the blessing in their lives.
I would venture to say though, that those who give out of a broken and contrite spirit because their heart is devoted to God, you will see that blessing, physically, but more importantly spiritually. Especially when they have very little to give, but done so anyway.
Luke 21:1-4
"And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 2 and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites. 3 So He said, “Truly I say to you that this poor widow has put in more than all; 4 for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings for God, but she out of her poverty put in all the livelihood that she had.”
I would venture to say though, that those who give out of a broken and contrite spirit because their heart is devoted to God, you will see that blessing, physically, but more importantly spiritually. Especially when they have very little to give, but done so anyway.
Luke 21:1-4
"And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 2 and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites. 3 So He said, “Truly I say to you that this poor widow has put in more than all; 4 for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings for God, but she out of her poverty put in all the livelihood that she had.”
So if God requires you to do something, you won't do it. You will only do it if you decide it is by your faith you do it? If God tells me to do something, whether I understand it or not, I am going to do it.
I have learned over the years that quite often I start doing something because God says to. After doing it a while, I begin to understand why. God doesn't always tell us why to start with. That is real faith, "I don't see why I should do this and I don't see how it will work out but God says to do it, so I will."
I have learned over the years that quite often I start doing something because God says to. After doing it a while, I begin to understand why. God doesn't always tell us why to start with. That is real faith, "I don't see why I should do this and I don't see how it will work out but God says to do it, so I will."
Well, what did Jesus say?
"Ye tithe mint, anise, and rue, and disregard the weightier matters of the law: Judgement, mercy, and faith; the first you should have done, and not leave the other undone."
What is Jesus saying here? Well, your spirit is more important than physical gifts.
- How was it Jesus equated precious physical things with precious spiritual things? - (Because the spiritual are more important).
- - If simply tithing material things was the answer to His law He never would have mentioned the spiritual tithes.
- - - But no church will preach on that. - (The spirit tithes)
Judgement, mercy, and faith;....try taking 10% out of that?
"Ye tithe mint, anise, and rue, and disregard the weightier matters of the law: Judgement, mercy, and faith; the first you should have done, and not leave the other undone."
What is Jesus saying here? Well, your spirit is more important than physical gifts.
- How was it Jesus equated precious physical things with precious spiritual things? - (Because the spiritual are more important).
- - If simply tithing material things was the answer to His law He never would have mentioned the spiritual tithes.
- - - But no church will preach on that. - (The spirit tithes)
Judgement, mercy, and faith;....try taking 10% out of that?
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