Quick question about tithing

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ShyForHim

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Although I was explained how tithing works at my church, there's still one thing that bugs me because I don't exactly know what to do.

So, if we tithe, we're supposed to give 10% to the church, right? So let's say I have 1000$, but have to use few of it for other things (Rent, food, or whatever) and I'm left with 700$. Does the 10% apply to 1000$ or to the 700$?

God bless and thank you.
 

Blain

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Well god knows our needs for such things as bills and stuff. Tithing is a very interesting thing, the term give till it hurts says it all. If it actually gives you pain giving a certain amount that is where faith really kicks in. even non believers who go to church just to go put in a twenty sometimes but never put their hearts in it. The question here is if you are giving ten percent why are you giving it? Is it because the bible says so? or is it because you are only returning to god what belongs to him in the first place.

If you think about it that entire 1000 dollars isn't really yours, because God gave you that job you have, that house and t.v., that internet and so on. Really all we are doing is borrowing because everything good is from the lord correct? The reason faith kicks into hyper mode when we come to a decision to give til it hurts is because god is then saying: How far are you willing to go? Do you trust me to return all you gave and double as my word says?

After all faith is not what we see, we may see it as losing money or giving a portion of our earnings but in reality we are only doubling it. God even says in his word this is the one thing he dares us to test him him
 
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ChristReconcilesAll

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Although I was explained how tithing works at my church, there's still one thing that bugs me because I don't exactly know what to do.

So, if we tithe, we're supposed to give 10% to the church, right? So let's say I have 1000$, but have to use few of it for other things (Rent, food, or whatever) and I'm left with 700$. Does the 10% apply to 1000$ or to the 700$?

God bless and thank you.
Pay your rent; buy your food; put gas in your car; pay your utilities, and, if there's any left, put it in the bank. We're not subject to the law in Hebrew scripture. If you have a brother or sister in need, help them out, but you don't have to tithe.
 
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Tithe from the 1000.. tithin is the one thing in the bible God tells you to test him on.. if you pay him the 10 percent he says he will give it back in such abundance you want even have a place to store it all... i pay my tithes except on few occasions i forget to take it out an end up spending it but ive never not had the money when i needed it sence i started tithing so pay your tith first dont worry about the bills God will make sure you have it taken care of.
 
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twofeet

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I think tithing is only mentioned twice in the New Testament in regards to the old law. If you wana keep the law make sure you dont wear any mixed fibre clothing and guys need to keep their beards trimmed according to the law.

However, the new testament talks alot about giving ...and giving with a gladful heart....its all about if you see a need and you can do something to help then do it. Living by the spirit, being lead by Him to know what to give and where at the right time. Those that follow the law give their 10% to church and then switch off. When we give our lives to the Lord we give ALL our lives...including Him ruling over our finances.

i usually find that churches that still preach on tithing but disregard the rest of the law are usually those that are relying on the congregation for money and not trusting God.
 
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My church still preachings tithing an my pastor does road work an his wife works at wal mary they used the money tithed to help out memebers of the church or anyone they know of that needs help.
 
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twofeet

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My church still preachings tithing an my pastor does road work an his wife works at wal mary they used the money tithed to help out memebers of the church or anyone they know of that needs help.

Thats good they are using the money specifically to help those in need but not sure why they would preach tithing rather than just "giving with a joyful heart"
 
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Because God wants us to you say where not under the law which is true we live by grace but christ also said he didnt change one bit of the law.. so just because we cwn be christians without following all of the law dosent mean we shouldnt do whay God wants.
 
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Although I was explained how tithing works at my church, there's still one thing that bugs me because I don't exactly know what to do.

So, if we tithe, we're supposed to give 10% to the church, right? So let's say I have 1000$, but have to use few of it for other things (Rent, food, or whatever) and I'm left with 700$. Does the 10% apply to 1000$ or to the 700$?

God bless and thank you.
Do you want a Gross or a Nett blessing?

Tithing was OT. For Christians it is called giving.
 
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kenisyes

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I think tithing is only mentioned twice in the New Testament in regards to the old law. If you wana keep the law make sure you dont wear any mixed fibre clothing and guys need to keep their beards trimmed according to the law.

However, the new testament talks alot about giving ...and giving with a gladful heart....its all about if you see a need and you can do something to help then do it. Living by the spirit, being lead by Him to know what to give and where at the right time. Those that follow the law give their 10% to church and then switch off. When we give our lives to the Lord we give ALL our lives...including Him ruling over our finances.

i usually find that churches that still preach on tithing but disregard the rest of the law are usually those that are relying on the congregation for money and not trusting God.
This is exactly the right answer theologically, but I want to add to it practically.

I know a Jewish story: The rabbi takes all the synagogue collection money, puts it in a big tub. He tosses it up in the air, and figures God will keep whatever He wants. Then the rabbi can keep whatever does not stay up in the sky.

There is a point: God keeps nothing, because He has entrusted it all to you, to be used on this earth. We do not live here. We live in the Kingdom of God. What are we doing here? We work here, to build the Kingdom of God. The money is for that.

When you eat, you do it so you can be stronger to help build the Kingdom of God. When you sleep, same. When you buy clothes, it is so you can be presentable to build the Kingdom of God. Even when you go to a movie, or pay for cable TV, you are getting recreation, so your mind can be clear to hear the Holy Spirit. If you are living as you should, 100% of your activity is either building the Kingdom, or supporting yourself in the world so you can build the Kingdom. The real question is, what percentage is your church playing in suporting, or being part of that ministry?

In proper balance, pastors teach tithing as a lesson, for those who are not ready for the meat that TwoFeet and I posted. There's a time to learn, and a time to step into your own ministry. I suspect that's why you are asking the question.
 

SparkleEyes

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Giving to God (churches, legitimate Christian organizations - not those snaky TV evangelists) is part of our worship. Worship includes being in the Word, being in fellowship, singing, giving our time, talents and money. :cool:
 

jb

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Tithing is an Old Testement practice, the early (Christian) Church did NOT practice it...period!

You can find a bit of a study on tithing Here

Yahweh Shalom...
 
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megaman125

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Tithing is an Old Testement practice, the early (Christian) Church did NOT practice it...period!
Now the full number of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one said that any of the things that belonged to him was his own, but they had everything in common. And with great power the apostles were giving their testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was upon them all. There was not a needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold and laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. Thus Joseph, who was also called by the apostles Barnabas (which means son of
encouragement), a Levite, a native of Cyprus, sold a field that belonged to him and brought the money and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
Acts 4:32-37

The Bible says you're wrong. The early church didn't give 10%, they gave 100%. Anti-tithers just love their money too much. God doesn't ask us to give because God needs our money, it's becaue we need to make sure money isn't our god.
 
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AgapeSpiritEyes

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Tithing is the law that reveals the lack of Agape so to give in obedient Faith whether in the old Covenant or New it is God asking us to open our hearts and allow His love to be His opportunity to increase our Love for Him by giving to others whom He also loves, by faith it is the opportunity to mix your life energy and work to say "I want to give my life energy and work" expressed by the money or chickens or vegetables, to allow God's love to be realized by those who were ministering to us spiritual food so they may receive the happiness of my free will desire that God's agape is what also I want them to experience in my giving. Faith is expecting earnestly the substance of me and others experiencing God's love by my action of giving, with the measure I give in Agape I will receive from God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit also their infinitely wise Agape blessings both now and in His eternal Kingdom. God's earnest desire is to provoke us to Agape and the real act of doing it then they the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit flow to and through all of us His body to minister and build us up in AGAPE, similar to every other spiritual fruit and gift.
God bless us all to give in the greatest desire from our souls to Love in Agape of Jesus and the Father by the Holy Spirit in all that we give in Spiritual; fruit, gifts whether in money or vegetables or fruit or what you put your energy and work labor and gifts and talents to bless our brethren in fervent AGAPE so as to demonstrate to the world and attract them to open their souls to the Lord Jesus.
What attraction is it to the world to see us not love with omnipotent Agape to those that minister to us the Food Jesus gives to them to give to us, their is no conduit of attraction if we neglect to give His Agape in everything we do giving or tithing you decide, you determine the measure to give and to receive so as to increase to give more Agape so that God may inhabit our giving with greater measures of His Agape presence when we meet and in our souls and by our prayers.
 

jb

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The Bible says you're wrong. The early church didn't give 10%, they gave 100%. Anti-tithers just love their money too much. God doesn't ask us to give because God needs our money, it's becaue we need to make sure money isn't our god.
Don't talk nonsense sonny boy, go and do a full study off the Scriptures on it from Genesis to Revelation (and Church history) with an open mind and then come back and post! Acts 17v11,12...
 
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megaman125

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Don't talk nonsense sonny boy, go and do a full study off the Scriptures on it from Genesis to Revelation (and Church history) with an open mind and then come back and post! Acts 17v11,12...
So let's see, your first instinct as an anti-tither is to resort to an ad-hominem while convienently ignoring the Scripute I posted that proved your statement wrong. Then again, when you have no case and cling to your money, such a response should be expected.
 
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I beleiveive tithing is more than 10%,
I find it annoying when greed is preached instead of Godly giving,give what you can for advancing his kingdom not to get 100 folds more.

I dont condemn anyone who gives tithe to the church its not my place,if u give,give as if I've given it to God
 

jb

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So let's see, your first instinct as an anti-tither is to resort to an ad-hominem while convienently ignoring the Scripute I posted that proved your statement wrong. Then again, when you have no case and cling to your money, such a response should be expected.
Well, it is quite obvious that all you like to do is to cherry pick certain Scriptures in an attempt to support a view (tithing in the NT) that is wrong...I have done such a study as I suggested you do and it took me over 1 year, so, why don't you do yourself a favour young fellow, get rid of your Scriptural ignorance and go and study the Scriptures and stop being an immature spiritual babe...:p
 

zone

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Well god knows our needs for such things as bills and stuff. Tithing is a very interesting thing, the term give till it hurts says it all. If it actually gives you pain giving a certain amount that is where faith really kicks in. even non believers who go to church just to go put in a twenty sometimes but never put their hearts in it. The question here is if you are giving ten percent why are you giving it? Is it because the bible says so? or is it because you are only returning to god what belongs to him in the first place.

If you think about it that entire 1000 dollars isn't really yours, because God gave you that job you have, that house and t.v., that internet and so on. Really all we are doing is borrowing because everything good is from the lord correct? The reason faith kicks into hyper mode when we come to a decision to give til it hurts is because god is then saying: How far are you willing to go? Do you trust me to return all you gave and double as my word says?

After all faith is not what we see, we may see it as losing money or giving a portion of our earnings but in reality we are only doubling it. God even says in his word this is the one thing he dares us to test him him
you give to the church so the church can help the weak and poor members, and minister to the lost.
you give secretly, as you feel led.
tithing is not a New Covenant commandment.
 

maxwel

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Well god knows our needs for such things as bills and stuff. Tithing is a very interesting thing, the term give till it hurts says it all. If it actually gives you pain giving a certain amount that is where faith really kicks in. even non believers who go to church just to go put in a twenty sometimes but never put their hearts in it. The question here is if you are giving ten percent why are you giving it? Is it because the bible says so? or is it because you are only returning to god what belongs to him in the first place.

If you think about it that entire 1000 dollars isn't really yours, because God gave you that job you have, that house and t.v., that internet and so on. Really all we are doing is borrowing because everything good is from the lord correct? The reason faith kicks into hyper mode when we come to a decision to give til it hurts is because god is then saying: How far are you willing to go? Do you trust me to return all you gave and double as my word says?

After all faith is not what we see, we may see it as losing money or giving a portion of our earnings but in reality we are only doubling it. God even says in his word this is the one thing he dares us to test him him

First, I'm not trying to pick on Blain, or start an argument; he seems like a very good guy.

Second, I would be very reluctant to give money to God expecting him to act like a spiritual slot machine and give me back double.

God isn't a cash machine, and there's a lot of confusing theology floating around about giving.
A lot of very good, honest, fine people hear a lot of inaccurate theology.

You should give, just because you're thankful for what God has done for you.
It should be an act of thanksgiving.
It should never be an act of "doubling down" like you're at a spiritual casino.
Just give the money, be thankful, and be happy... and smile as it floats away on the offering plate.

Will God bless you for it?
Sure.
But he'll bless you however HE chooses to bless you.