"replacement theology" - what is it?
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No biblical proof Just more trying to make things which which have no proof.
Nice theory. But I will stick to the word.
Daniel was told Israel would have 70 years to repent from a preset time.. But during that time certain things would happen. Jesus said when he entered jerusalem the DAY he was introduced as messiah, If Isreal only knew this hour of her calliing, But now it was hidden from her. because she was unwilling. So the other OT prophesies concerning the gentiles who would be given what Isreal lost. are fulfilled.
It is ALL part of the mystery.. You do not get the doctrine of the mystery from a small passage, it takes the whole book.
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This true and amen.
But we are not talking about Spiritual Israel. And eternal life through christ.
we are talking about Physical Israel. and their role in the history, present and future of the world as the bible tells it through the OT record of events which occurred, and prophetic word which says what things have not yet occurred, but we can be assured they will..
The divide seems to be people want to make it one issue concerning one context, when it is not.
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Gen 17: [SUP]8 [/SUP]Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”
When God says forever, I think we need to take God at his word. And we have the following known facts to adhere too.
1. No condition was given to keep this land, at the time God gave the covenant. So it is not a conditional covenant, it is a grace gift,
2. God (in Lev 26 and a few other passages) Gave Israel the requirement of living in peace in the land God gave to their them through their father.
.....If they obeyed God and lived righteousnely, God would bless them
......If they sinned against God, God would punish them, If they continued God would punish them 7 times more, Up to the point, where God would have an enemy attack them, Destroy their city and sanctuary and make it desolate. Take them as slaves and scatter them all of the earth.
...... If they repented, God would remember the promise, and remember the land. The promise which says the land belongs to them, through the father, as romans 11 says, The gift of God are irrevocable. IF, (that is a bug if) they repent (prophesy says they will) then they will be restored.
Until then God will keep their line in tact, by always keeping a "remant" of jews who will not only be saved, but keep the law given to THEM (Not taint their bloodline by taking foreign wife) because once the bloodline is destroyed, there can be no more remnant, Isreal as a nation is gone forever
When God says forever, I think we need to take God at his word. And we have the following known facts to adhere too.
1. No condition was given to keep this land, at the time God gave the covenant. So it is not a conditional covenant, it is a grace gift,
2. God (in Lev 26 and a few other passages) Gave Israel the requirement of living in peace in the land God gave to their them through their father.
.....If they obeyed God and lived righteousnely, God would bless them
......If they sinned against God, God would punish them, If they continued God would punish them 7 times more, Up to the point, where God would have an enemy attack them, Destroy their city and sanctuary and make it desolate. Take them as slaves and scatter them all of the earth.
...... If they repented, God would remember the promise, and remember the land. The promise which says the land belongs to them, through the father, as romans 11 says, The gift of God are irrevocable. IF, (that is a bug if) they repent (prophesy says they will) then they will be restored.
Until then God will keep their line in tact, by always keeping a "remant" of jews who will not only be saved, but keep the law given to THEM (Not taint their bloodline by taking foreign wife) because once the bloodline is destroyed, there can be no more remnant, Isreal as a nation is gone forever
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why did God initiate a system of sacrifices if He thought they would keep His covennt
do you not know that as the initiator, God chooses whether or not to cancel it?
where is the bill of divorcement He says...
if we are unfaithful, God remains faithful
your answers simply reflect a poor understanding of scripture
Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away. Isaiah 50:1
A covenant is like a contract.
If you break it you
reap certain undesirable outcomes.
In the case of Abraham's covenant, anybody who broke the covenant was expelled from the covenantal agreement.
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[/FONT][FONT="]Any uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin shall be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant[/FONT][FONT="][/FONT]
If you break it you
reap certain undesirable outcomes.
In the case of Abraham's covenant, anybody who broke the covenant was expelled from the covenantal agreement.
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[/FONT][FONT="]Any uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin shall be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant[/FONT][FONT="][/FONT]
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Jacob had major trouble in daniels day And never realy got out of trouble that is why from the time babylon took over cannan, until today, Gentiles have trampled on that land (of course daniel was told this would happen with the statue and gentile beast prophecy)
So this line of reasoning is extremely flawed. Jacob just did not mess up in AD 70 if nothing else, they crucified christ when?)
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NO, THEY DO NOT. PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY BELIEVE, and not the SLANDER and LIES which are brought against us.
Yes, some do believe this, but that does not make the whole doctrine wrong
Dispensationalsim is not about how people Got saved when, It tried to break history down into different area where God dealt with mankind on earth different ways, or make history alittle easier to understand.
They do that in history books, it is called chapters, or era's.
A dispensation is a unit of time, nothing more nothing less.
Yes, some do believe this, but that does not make the whole doctrine wrong
Dispensationalsim is not about how people Got saved when, It tried to break history down into different area where God dealt with mankind on earth different ways, or make history alittle easier to understand.
They do that in history books, it is called chapters, or era's.
A dispensation is a unit of time, nothing more nothing less.
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None,, No one could keep the law 100% so it would be rediculous to ask someone to do something they could not do.
Thats why the abrahamic covenant, which consisted of a FEW promises, not just one, was unconditional. Because no one could keep the condition.
That is where grace comes in, and we can see Gods grace in how he dealt with Isreal. How many years of sin did they live in before God destroyed them the first time.
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Abrahams covenant was not conditional. God made the promise, after he put abraham to sleep Abraham did not say, I promise to do this in return, if you do that, He could not, because he was asleep.
God walked down the middle. And God said "I WILL"
It is not a conditional covenant (if you do this, I will do that) it is a non conditional covenant (I will do this, no matter what you do)
God walked down the middle. And God said "I WILL"
It is not a conditional covenant (if you do this, I will do that) it is a non conditional covenant (I will do this, no matter what you do)
Here's why God initiated a sacrificial system.
Hebrews 10:1-4 KJV
For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. [2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. [3] But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. [4] For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Hebrews 10:1-4 KJV
For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. [2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. [3] But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. [4] For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.