"replacement theology" - what is it?

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LaurenTM

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ZEEK said:
Er no Lauren, and please don't try and lecture me with your 10th grade education.

Many Greeks were converted Jews, and therefore were not Gentiles.
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you are not able to converse without trying to insult?

what class!

you do not seem to understand why 'Greek' was used

let's hope you don't think it means only Greeks

you know, when somone has to slur another...as in you saying my 10th grade education, I believe they are either arrogant past hope or backed into a corner and come out swinging with insults to try and get a fight going

you have taken a number of swings at me here...including calling me a liar...what was it? 3 times?

anyway, it's pathetic
 
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I think I do get it but maybe not. I'm not above correction, maybe you can help me see the light. If this is talking about the 2nd coming of Christ, how will those which pierced him, which are in the grave at that time, how will they see him when he comes?

Revelation 1:7 KJV
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
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do you suppose that my offering of verses and context will be any different than those you have already denied?

seriously?

cause I don't...
 
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do you suppose that my offering of verses and context will be any different than those you have already denied?

seriously?

cause I don't...
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Are you capable of answering the question?

Edit to clarify. I mean are you capable of answering the question or are you going to continually make derogatory remarks to me. It gets really old. I like discussing the bible but you don't seem to want to discuss the issues.
 
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that again?

seems some do no think Romans has been translated correctly if their personal interpretation differs

at any rate, Greeks are gentiles

wondering if you will next state that if we are not Greek, then we are not saved...........:p

are you at all familiar with the Greco-Roman empire?

let me help out here so that you understand the context/cultural/geo-political times of the NT


The Greco-Roman world, Greco-Roman culture, or the term Greco-Roman (/ˌɡrɛkoʊˈroʊmən/ or /ˌɡrɛkəˈroʊmən/; spelled Graeco-Roman in the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth), when used as an adjective, as understood by modern scholars and writers, refers to those geographical regions and countries that culturally (and so historically) were directly, long-term, and intimately influenced by the language, culture, government and religion of the ancient Greeks and Romans. In exact terms the area refers to the "Mediterranean world", the extensive tracts of land centered on the Mediterranean and Black Sea basins, the "swimming-pool and spa" of the Greeks and Romans, i.e. one wherein the cultural perceptions, ideas and sensitivities of these peoples were dominant.
As mentioned, the term Greco-Roman world describes those regions who were for many generations subjected to the government of the Greeks and then the Romans and thus accepted or at length were forced to embrace them as their masters and teachers. This process was aided by the seemingly universal adoption of Greek as the language of intellectual culture and at least Eastern commerce, and of Latin as the tongue for public management and forensic advocacy, especially in the West (from the perspective of the Mediterranean Sea).

compliments of WIKI
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I love it when people make me smarter.
 
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Are you capable of answering the question?
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oh my...another slur...are you people catching some sort of bug from each other??


in order to 'stick' with a preterist view of Revelation, you Preterists mess with the chronological order of scripture

for one thing, Revelation was written around 90 AD...so how could it all have been fulfilled in 70 AD?
 
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oh my...another slur...are you people catching some sort of bug from each other??


in order to 'stick' with a preterist view of Revelation, you Preterists mess with the chronological order of scripture

for one thing, Revelation was written around 90 AD...so how could it all have been fulfilled in 70 AD?
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I edited to clarify while you were responding.
 
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I seriously hope you don't believe Jesus is coming back with literal clouds. Jesus is coming back exactly the same way he left. The clouds he's coming back with are per Jude - those saints are the clouds. Clouds in the bible represent witnesses.

Jude 1:14 KJV
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

The book of Revelation is sign-a-fied. It's written in symbolic language, nothing in the book is literal.... Jesus is not coming back in literal clouds.
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Yes, I do believe that he will arrive on the clouds of heaven and so does scripture:

"After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. "Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”

Jesus was taken up into heaven in a cloud and he will return arriving on the clouds of heaven, just as the scripture above states and Matt.24:30 proclaims.
 
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I love it when people make me smarter.
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oh did that help LOL?

I was actually in independent studies in history...in high school...because of my aptitude for it

meaning, I selected what I wanted to study, got it approved by the powers that be (in High School) then did an in depth study and turned in my paper


I chose the American Civil war for one and Vikings for another

history is something, IMO. everyone should avail themselves of...1. it does repeat itself...nothing new under the sun Ecc.

I think it actually does make a person 'smarter'

but then I like study and research...
 
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Yes, I do believe that he will arrive on the clouds of heaven and so does scripture:

"After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. "Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”

Jesus was taken up into heaven in a cloud and he will return arriving on the clouds of heaven, just as the scripture above states and Matt.24:30 proclaims.
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Now go read the book of Jude. Who are the clouds that Jesus comes back with in Jude... he left with the same cloud.
 
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The book of Revelation is sign-a-fied. It's written in symbolic language, nothing in the book is literal
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Assigning symbolism to the majority of the book of Revelation is the error that many make and that because they were taught to. It is meant for us to read in the literal sense until a symbolic interpretation is obvious or required. When people immediately assign symbolic meanings to information that is meant to be interpreted literally, it distorts the true meaning of what God is conveying.
 
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....waiting...that little matter of chronological error you guys got going on....

anyways, be leaving shortly...happy to take it up again tomorrow evening or later

so if I disappear, no worries...I wasn't raptured...jking
 
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LaurenTM said:
oh did that help LOL?

I was actually in independent studies in history...in high school...because of my aptitude for it

meaning, I selected what I wanted to study, got it approved by the powers that be (in High School) then did an in depth study and turned in my paper


I chose the American Civil war for one and Vikings for another

history is something, IMO. everyone should avail themselves of...1. it does repeat itself...nothing new under the sun Ecc.

I think it actually does make a person 'smarter'

but then I like study and research...
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Totally off topic, but something came across my purview today you may be able to shed some light on. Was the Republic in a state of "martial law" at the time of the assassination of Abe Lincoln in relation whatsoever to his attempt to bring in the greenback? Totally left field I know, but I've never heard this before.
 
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What's the chronological error?
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in order to 'stick' with a preterist view of Revelation, you Preterists mess with the chronological order of scripture

for one thing, Revelation was written around 90 AD...so how could it all have been fulfilled in 70 AD?

post 445...while you were editing your...uh.... not insult insult

but like I said, gonna quit soon...I'm on here too much as it is
 
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CharlieGrown said:
Totally off topic, but something came across my purview today you may be able to shed some light on. Was the Republic in a state of "martial law" at the time of the assassination of Abe Lincoln in relation whatsoever to his attempt to bring in the greenback? Totally left field I know, but I've never heard this before.
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that is not something I know...will get back to you
 
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in order to 'stick' with a preterist view of Revelation, you Preterists mess with the chronological order of scripture

for one thing, Revelation was written around 90 AD...so how could it all have been fulfilled in 70 AD?
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I don't understand what the time frame of the writing of Revelation hs to do with anything. Revelation doesn't say anything different than what's written in the prophets. What does the time frame of the writing have to do with anything?
 
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Now go read the book of Jude. Who are the clouds that Jesus comes back with in Jude... he left with the same cloud.
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The use of the word clouds or any word, must be determined by the context. When Jesus ascended into heaven hidden by a cloud, the cloud was not referring to a cloud of people who went with him, for he ascended alone. It is the context that must be looked at first. Since it is stated that Jesus left in a cloud and the angels said that he would return in the same way, then it will be with the literal clouds. For sure, scripture states that we have a great cloud witnesses, but you have to discern via the context whether the word is speaking of a literal clouds or symbolically, as representing a cloud of witnesses.

In the case of Matt.24:32, Acts 1:9 and Rev.1:7, they are all speaking of Jesus returning with the literal clouds of the sky and that at the end of the age.
 
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Utah said:
And now she's Catholic. :D
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It's terrible what they've done to Mary, using her personage to represent the babylonian "queen of heaven".
 
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