"replacement theology" - what is it?

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I apologize. You didn't use the word scumbag, I thought you had. But I did remember you calling them a name and saying not so nice things about the Jews.

One thing you did call them was thugs! Just as bad, if not worse.

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Why do you insist on supporting those God hating thugs in Isael

I stand by that because I think it fits them.

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Nah, I dont worship the Jews,I worship a Jew Jesus Christ. And the Jews are his people. And the hatred that you are spewing here is 100% anti-semitic.Im not accusing you,you're condemning yourself without any help from me. And you're proving my point made 20 pages ago Replacement Theology leads to antisemitism, which it began in,its a complete circle.

Antisemitism-hostility to or prejudice against Jews.
If what you say is true then why does the bible say exactly the opposite? You say the children of the flesh are God's people, the bible says the children of the flesh are not God's people. How do you reconcile that?

Romans 9:8 KJV
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
 

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Would someone please explain to me why this doctrine is so Satanic and why it necessitates Jew-hating?

Believing, on conviction of scripture, that the Church replaced Israel does not necessarily mean that one thinks Jews are any less-worthy of salvation than anybody else. It also does not in any way (logically) determine whether or not one thinks the Israeli state should exist- it just means you have to evaluate Israel's actions with the same criteria of every other country.

The only real problem I see with "Replacement Theology" is that it interprets certain prophecies symbolically when there debatable context available to justify that interpretation.

To claim it is somehow the doorway to Anti-Semitism is just logically unsound. Suppose we lived in a world where Brazilians were considered the current chosen people by denominations of Christians- saying that they are not is not indicative of a hatred for Brazilians or a belief that they have no viable territorial claim to Sao Paulo.
Well said

There seems to be a kind of mindless emotionalism when it comes to Israel and all things Jewish. This is largely due to the Dispensationalist position taken by some which I equate to being cultic. I am not anti Semetic by any means but find it difficult to support the actions of the Israeli government and impossible to believe that God has blessed them for some of their military actions which far outweigh any provocations directed at themselves. There is condemnation of Assad and Putin for what they are doing in Syria but silence where Israel is involved.
 
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Well said

There seems to be a kind of mindless emotionalism when it comes to Israel and all things Jewish. This is largely due to the Dispensationalist position taken by some which I equate to being cultic. I am not anti Semetic by any means but find it difficult to support the actions of the Israeli government and impossible to believe that God has blessed them for some of their military actions which far outweigh any provocations directed at themselves. There is condemnation of Assad and Putin for what they are doing in Syria but silence where Israel is involved.


When a person denies the Holocaust responding to that is not "emotionalism" nor "mindless".The blood of millions of innocent people are on our hands if we do not stand for truth. Even more so if we claim Christ. I will not sit by and allow anyone to deny the Holocaust with revisionist foolishness by people who were never there,Jew or not. CC does not agree with this belief and Im hoping to see this thread closed soon. It is vile to claim the Holocaust did not happen, or that only a few were killed. It is a vile lie.
 
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are you anti Jew or anti Zionist?
I'm anti flesh children of Israel are God's chosen people. I would say I'm anti Zionist also. The Jews are just wicked God haters, I wouldn't say I hate them, I do pray for them.
 
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When a person denies the Holocaust responding to that is not "emotionalism" nor "mindless".The blood of millions of innocent people are on our hands if we do not stand for truth. Even more so if we claim Christ. I will not sit by and allow anyone to deny the Holocaust with revisionist foolishness by people who were never there,Jew or not. CC does not agree with this belief and Im hoping to see this thread closed soon. It is vile to claim the Holocaust did not happen, or that only a few were killed. It is a vile lie.
I hope you're not talking about me because I never said the holocaust never happened, I don't know if it did or not. I'm not afraid to look at alternative views of the mainstream story. I would recommend everybody do the same.
 
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I'm anti flesh children of Israel are God's chosen people. I would say I'm anti Zionist also. The Jews are just wicked God haters, I wouldn't say I hate them, I do pray for them.
i agree with you on the Zionism. i could be wrong but IMO the force behind zionism has nothing to do with Judhism or the greater good. its purely political with a dark agenda. the same people behind it are the same ones that invade and fund the fighting in the poorest of countries and damage billions of lives.
 
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I'm anti flesh children of Israel are God's chosen people. I would say I'm anti Zionist also. The Jews are just wicked God haters, I wouldn't say I hate them, I do pray for them.
Every sinner hates God and live against His Word. Why in particular are Jews God haters? What you're saying is full of lies and hatred.


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I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that "the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda." Some members of the visiting party were unable to go through with the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton's headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and the British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.
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I hope you're not talking about me because I never said the holocaust never happened, I don't know if it did or not. I'm not afraid to look at alternative views of the mainstream story. I would recommend everybody do the same.
I am talking about you and you have intimated that it did not happen and or it did not happen as history says it happened. Revisionist history,just as bad as denying it.
 
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i agree with you on the Zionism. i could be wrong but IMO the force behind zionism has nothing to do with Judhism or the greater good. its purely political with a dark agenda. the same people behind it are the same ones that invade and fund the fighting in the poorest of countries and damage billions of lives.
I agree, and those people in Israel today are Zionist. They have nothing to do with the God of the bible. They follow the Talmud and practice Kaballah. They are as antichrist as antichrist can be.
 
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I am talking about you and you have intimated that it did not happen and or it did not happen as history says it happened. Revisionist history,just as bad as denying it.
I have no idea if the holocaust is what the Zionist say it was or not. There are many other views on the holocaust besides the Zionist view.
 

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If what you say is true then why does the bible say exactly the opposite? You say the children of the flesh are God's people, the bible says the children of the flesh are not God's people. How do you reconcile that?

Romans 9:8 KJV
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
I can only guess that you're deliberately ignoring the multiple times we've said that this scripture is true. In fact, most of the scriptures we've posted we've agreed with. We all understand the truth of the scriptures pertaining to how one comes to know the Lord. We must be born again.

Children of the flesh are not children of God. We must be born again. The called out believers, the church consist of Jews and Gentiles. No one disagrees.

What everyone is saying here that disagrees with what you believe, is that GOD IS NOT FINISHED WITH HIS CHOSEN NATION?

We've given scripture after scripture and you super spiritualize them to change their meaning. We've given many scriptures that show that God is going to restore the JEWISH NATION in her land and bring Judah and Israel back together again as one people.

Unfortunately Israel will go through a lot more suffering (Jacob's trouble) in the future. She'll be surrounded by her enemies and many will be killed.

THE NATION will again have temple worship with Jesus ruling on earth for a thousand years. 2/3rd's of the Jews will be killed, but 1/3 will survive and will enter into the New Covenant with God, will be born again, born from above and will look on Him whom they have pierced and mourn.

No one has the Jews on a pedastel or is worshipping them. God still loves His CHOSEN people, His chosen nation. He says so. He chose them and He's continuing a work to fulfill His promises to them. It doesn't mean He loves their sin. They've been punished dearly for their sins, but God still loves them as a NATION. And because He does, we worship Him and so love His NATION ISRAEL. We're rooting for her and rejoice that one day as a NATION, Israel will come to know her Messiah!

We are being obedient to scripture by praying for the peace of Jerusalem. We are being obedient to scripture by believing that God's word is true and believing it at face value that God is going to do what He says He's going to do.

On the other hand, you disagree with what we believe. In the final analysis, we've all gone on and on about how we believe. I think it's time to call it a night.

I, for one am done.

Those who are being led of His Spirit will believe the truth. If we're in error, God will reveal it. We can trust Him because of Hus promise that the Holy Spirit will lead and guide us into all truth.

Good night all! It's been a pleasure to find those who are like-minded, who bless Israel and love her because God does. What He says will happen, WILL HAPPEN. Glory Hallelujah!


 
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Every sinner hates God and live against His Word. Why in particular are Jews God haters? What you're saying is full of lies and hatred.


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I visited every nook and cranny of the camp because I felt it my duty to be in a position from then on to testify at first hand about these things in case there ever grew up at home the belief or assumption that "the stories of Nazi brutality were just propaganda." Some members of the visiting party were unable to go through with the ordeal. I not only did so but as soon as I returned to Patton's headquarters that evening I sent communications to both Washington and London, urging the two governments to send instantly to Germany a random group of newspaper editors and representative groups from the national legislatures. I felt that the evidence should be immediately placed before the American and the British publics in a fashion that would leave no room for cynical doubt.[/TD]
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Have you ever read the Talmud?
 
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I can only guess that you're deliberately ignoring the multiple times we've said that this scripture is true. In fact, most of the scriptures we've posted we've agreed with. We all understand the truth of the scriptures pertaining to how one comes to know the Lord. We must be born again.

Children of the flesh are not children of God. We must be born again. The called out believers, the church consist of Jews and Gentiles. No one disagrees.

What everyone is saying here that disagrees with what you believe, is that GOD IS NOT FINISHED WITH HIS CHOSEN NATION?

We've given scripture after scripture and you super spiritualize them to change their meaning. We've given many scriptures that show that God is going to restore the JEWISH NATION in her land and bring Judah and Israel back together again as one people.

Unfortunately Israel will go through a lot more suffering (Jacob's trouble) in the future. She'll be surrounded by her enemies and many will be killed.

THE NATION will again have temple worship with Jesus ruling on earth for a thousand years. 2/3rd's of the Jews will be killed, but 1/3 will survive and will enter into the New Covenant with God, will be born again, born from above and will look on Him whom they have pierced and mourn.

No one has the Jews on a pedastel or is worshipping them. God still loves His CHOSEN people, His chosen nation. He says so. He chose them and He's continuing a work to fulfill His promises to them. It doesn't mean He loves their sin. They've been punished dearly for their sins, but God still loves them as a NATION. And because He does, we worship Him and so love His NATION ISRAEL. We're rooting for her and rejoice that one day as a NATION, Israel will come to know her Messiah!

We are being obedient to scripture by praying for the peace of Jerusalem. We are being obedient to scripture by believing that God's word is true and believing it at face value that God is going to do what He says He's going to do.

On the other hand, you disagree with what we believe. In the final analysis, we've all gone on and on about how we believe. I think it's time to call it a night.

I, for one am done.

Those who are being led of His Spirit will believe the truth. If we're in error, God will reveal it. We can trust Him because of Hus promise that the Holy Spirit will lead and guide us into all truth.

Good night all! It's been a pleasure to find those who are like-minded, who bless Israel and love her because God does. What He says will happen, WILL HAPPEN. Glory Hallelujah!


You go through all that to prove that you don't believe the children of the flesh are the children of God and then you say God is not finished with his chosen nation.... National Israel are not God's children that's the children of the flesh.

GOD IS NOT FINISHED WITH HIS CHOSEN NATION?
 
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Abraham was the father of many nations.

Arab Nation
Jewish Nation - Israel
Children of the promise

Only the last group are God's chosen people. The Arabs are not nor are the Jews, only the children of the promise.
 
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kaylagrl

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i just wanted to say i love it when a lady yells "bull feathers!!!!"

ROFL it was all I dare say. How is your girlfriend btw? Weren't we talking about her a few months ago?
 
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kaylagrl

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Have you ever read the Talmud?

Back round the circle,feel like Im on a playground.The Jews are now blinded. They are not saved. Many are even atheists. Because they are blinded. Romans 11
 

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Well said

There seems to be a kind of mindless emotionalism when it comes to Israel and all things Jewish. This is largely due to the Dispensationalist position taken by some which I equate to being cultic. I am not anti Semetic by any means but find it difficult to support the actions of the Israeli government and impossible to believe that God has blessed them for some of their military actions which far outweigh any provocations directed at themselves. There is condemnation of Assad and Putin for what they are doing in Syria but silence where Israel is involved.
Are you aware of any of the prophecies that are yet to come. There are 100's of them that are coming together today, tomorrow and the next day, etc.

We are in the end times.......... The prophecies you should look to to affect Israel are but not limited to:

* The Dispersion of Elam --destruction of Elam by Israel. -----Jeremiah 49:34-39 (KJV)

* The total destruction of the oldest populated city in the world overnight. (Damascus)--- Isaiah 17 (KJV)

* Psalm 83, (KJV),,,,the war from all of her neighboring countries...Might be brought on by the Damascus prophecy.

After this, Israel will live at peace and have no borders or walls. hey will have close to the original Land that God gave them.

* An then Gog/Maygog??????Ezekiel 38-39 (KJV) Here is where God will show all the world his might and Glory.

Whether these are before or after the rapture no one knows. But is going to HELL on earth and we are getting there fast.