Very true gotime. Unfortunately, there are many who try to use 2 pet.3:8 as a plume line to figure out the timing of prophecy, when it has nothing to do mathematically with a thousand years being equal to one day. As you said, and I agree with, it has to do with the fact that time does not affect God as it does with us. But just like with most everything in scripture, people find ways of distorting the meaning of these things.
Revelation 12 Sign: September 23,2017
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Well today is September 23, but no one has reported any woman appearing in the heavens with 12 stars around her head. So what was this alignment of stars supposed to indicate? More date setting?
My opinion is to leave the signs in the heavens to the heathen as Jeremiah told us. Christians have more critical issues to deal with.
My opinion is to leave the signs in the heavens to the heathen as Jeremiah told us. Christians have more critical issues to deal with.
If you want a sign, it is the apostates in the church holding to righteousness and righteous
behaviour is impossible and claiming it is part of walking with Christ is from satan.
Our culture is into accepting where and who you are, and that is your true identity, rather
than the product of genetics and circumstances, and Jesus offers us the ability to become
something in Him and not stay lost empty sinners.
Looking for signs is just a way of hoping for an escape rather than focusing on walking
in the Lords ways and bringing glory to His name.
behaviour is impossible and claiming it is part of walking with Christ is from satan.
Our culture is into accepting where and who you are, and that is your true identity, rather
than the product of genetics and circumstances, and Jesus offers us the ability to become
something in Him and not stay lost empty sinners.
Looking for signs is just a way of hoping for an escape rather than focusing on walking
in the Lords ways and bringing glory to His name.
Its not a sign we seek after before we will believe. we walk by faith the unseen. Its the generation of Adam natural man that does walk by sight.
What will be the sign of the last day is things will be going on a normal in a corrupted world that is dying. Earthquakes, hurricanes , people dying, wars rumors of wars so and so. They all reveal the continuous wrath of God from heaven as a tribulation or hell of fallen men.
It will be just as in was in the time of Noah . No faith of God according to His labor of love but rather the faith of men after the imaginations of their own hearts. He will come like a thief in the night just as in the time of Noah .
Noah being aware it would end was warned he would come as a thief in the night. I don't think he made any guesses . God had already prepared a way for him to escape just as with us. We are aware but know not the minute, hour ,day or year. no need to.
Gen 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Its an evil generation that does seek after them.
By your description we could say this is it... the beginning of the end.. I believe much worse will come to pass before He Returns.. so yes we walk by Faith but darker times ahead..
To think all the saints that have walked before us all suffering greatly.. even today Christians are persecuted.. yet we in these nations are being slowly oppressed.. conditioned from all sides.. but we must put GOD first always.. and if the comfort blanket is pulled be as strong and devoted to our Faith as ever.
The word thousand is used to signify as a sign seen to represent the unseen of whatever is in view. I would think we should put on our prescription glasses (2 Corinthians 4:18) to help look through the dark glass and hopefully he can shed some light on it.
2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
In Revelation we understand the whole book is signified using signs seen to represent that not seen. I think God wanted to set that standard right from the start.
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Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
When looking at chapter 20 in respect to that parable I believe we can see those things that are signified.
Can’t see an angel which represents a messenger. .We walk by faith (the unseen) The key represents the gospel as that in which the gates of hell could never prevail against .Bottomless pit represent the never ending judgment of God. The same key like a chain can bind a spirit seeing a literal chain cannot bind anything that does not contains the rudiments of this world. Hand is used to represent the will of God. He has not literal hands or body. He is eternal Spirit who uses words like throne to represent the seat of His invisible authority..
The gospel in that parable that reveals to us the spiritual understanding is hid from natural man without the Spirit of Christ. Binding him for an unknown amount of time is represented by the metaphor “thousand”.
Can't see a soul of those who follow their head Christ as those persecuted for his name.. can't put literal mark on a soul the mark of Cain .Souls do not have foreheads ans hands . it signified speaks of the mind and will . The rest of the dead is not in respect to those who know not Christ but those are asleep, waiting for the wake up call the last trump. on the last day.
Many of the words used in that parable are methphors used to hide the spirutl understanding for those who do walk by sight seeking after a signs and wonders gospel .
The Amil position(no literal thousand ) seems to work the best .
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Rev 20:1
2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
In Revelation we understand the whole book is signified using signs seen to represent that not seen. I think God wanted to set that standard right from the start.
.
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
When looking at chapter 20 in respect to that parable I believe we can see those things that are signified.
Can’t see an angel which represents a messenger. .We walk by faith (the unseen) The key represents the gospel as that in which the gates of hell could never prevail against .Bottomless pit represent the never ending judgment of God. The same key like a chain can bind a spirit seeing a literal chain cannot bind anything that does not contains the rudiments of this world. Hand is used to represent the will of God. He has not literal hands or body. He is eternal Spirit who uses words like throne to represent the seat of His invisible authority..
The gospel in that parable that reveals to us the spiritual understanding is hid from natural man without the Spirit of Christ. Binding him for an unknown amount of time is represented by the metaphor “thousand”.
Can't see a soul of those who follow their head Christ as those persecuted for his name.. can't put literal mark on a soul the mark of Cain .Souls do not have foreheads ans hands . it signified speaks of the mind and will . The rest of the dead is not in respect to those who know not Christ but those are asleep, waiting for the wake up call the last trump. on the last day.
Many of the words used in that parable are methphors used to hide the spirutl understanding for those who do walk by sight seeking after a signs and wonders gospel .
The Amil position(no literal thousand ) seems to work the best .
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Rev 20:1
Amen it make me wonder as a faith principle when he comes will he find His faith as a labor of His love working in the hearts of men to both will and do His good purpose or their own faith after the the imagination of their own desperately wicked hearts as in who could know it? One day it accuses the next excuses.
God is greater than the imagination of our heart.
Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
God is greater than the imagination of our heart.
Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
yeah i'm looking at the sky and all i see is the sun, as it was yesterday and the day before.
no sign apart from the constancy of His greatness displayed by the work of His hands.
so . . .
what? is God incompetent at signs in the heavens? you'd think if this was supposed to be a sign, it'd be observable.
*shrug*
guess someone radically miscalculated. question is: was it God or man that got this wrong?
no sign apart from the constancy of His greatness displayed by the work of His hands.
so . . .
what? is God incompetent at signs in the heavens? you'd think if this was supposed to be a sign, it'd be observable.
*shrug*
guess someone radically miscalculated. question is: was it God or man that got this wrong?
yeah i'm looking at the sky and all i see is the sun, as it was yesterday and the day before.
no sign apart from the constancy of His greatness displayed by the work of His hands.
so . . .
what? is God incompetent at signs in the heavens? you'd think if this was supposed to be a sign, it'd be observable.
*shrug*
guess someone radically miscalculated. question is: was it God or man that got this wrong?
no sign apart from the constancy of His greatness displayed by the work of His hands.
so . . .
what? is God incompetent at signs in the heavens? you'd think if this was supposed to be a sign, it'd be observable.
*shrug*
guess someone radically miscalculated. question is: was it God or man that got this wrong?
