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Satan is bound in our day as our generation knows the outcome. But there are those who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
Acts 7:36-43
36*He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years.
37*This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
38*This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
39*To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,
40*Saying unto Aaron, Make us gods to go before us: for as for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
41*And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.
42*Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness?
43*Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
Acts 7:36-43
36*He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years.
37*This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
38*This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
39*To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,
40*Saying unto Aaron, Make us gods to go before us: for as for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
41*And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands.
42*Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness?
43*Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
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Satan is not bound. He is still decieving nations. He is still decieving people. He still walks around like a roaring lion seeking who he may devour. If satan was bound, we would not need to watch for him. People like Hitler would have never done what they did. And all the hate in the world would not be abounding as it is.
Revelation states when he is bound, he will not be able to decieve anyone. Thus it can not possibly be true he has been bound for 2000 years now.
Revelation states when he is bound, he will not be able to decieve anyone. Thus it can not possibly be true he has been bound for 2000 years now.
James 1:13-15
13*Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14*But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15*Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
13*Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14*But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15*Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Haven't we all rebelled against Him at one time or another, why do you think this is referring to another time period, aren't you Redeemed by The Blood? Now? Yes, He doesn't rule over his own with a rod of iron. "Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me" Have you ever heard of a shepherd with an iron rod? No. The Iron is for those that aren't His own. This one of the reasons why I believe He sets up His kingdom on earth, before the new heaven and earth.
Rick you must see these things through Faith in Christ, through what He has accomplished, they are visible in The Spirit and in Truth. I do see things through faith in Jesus. It is faith in Jesus Christ that gives the Holy Spirit the avenue to expound to our minds and spirits the Holy Writ.
The same as this is:
Rev 11:15 And the seventh messenger trumpets. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying, "The kingdom of this world became our Lord's and His Christ's, and He shall be reigning for the eons of the eons! Amen!" Notice when that proclamation was stated. Not before two woes were past. You can't just cherry pick scripture and make it apply to every soul. - Keep reading:
Revelation 14:9-11King James Version (KJV)
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Faith is more than claiming you are saved.
Rick you must see these things through Faith in Christ, through what He has accomplished, they are visible in The Spirit and in Truth. I do see things through faith in Jesus. It is faith in Jesus Christ that gives the Holy Spirit the avenue to expound to our minds and spirits the Holy Writ.
The same as this is:
Rev 11:15 And the seventh messenger trumpets. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying, "The kingdom of this world became our Lord's and His Christ's, and He shall be reigning for the eons of the eons! Amen!" Notice when that proclamation was stated. Not before two woes were past. You can't just cherry pick scripture and make it apply to every soul. - Keep reading:
Revelation 14:9-11King James Version (KJV)
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Faith is more than claiming you are saved.
Ezekiel 25:16-17
16*Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will stretch out mine hand upon the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethims, and destroy the remnant of the sea coast.
17*And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.
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lol, thanks for the warning. I am just trying to give another opinion. people are free to choose what they want. This is not a MAJOR doctrine. so not worth getting all huffy and puffy over what people believe 
Polite dialogue is great. Can make you study deeper at the least.
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1. Rev states when satan is bound, he will not be able to decieve the nations anymore. Not believers. james 1 is speaking of believers.
2. James is correct. We can only be tempted when our own lust is wanting to do something. As scripture says, resist the devil and he will flee from you. He can only tempt you if he temps you with something you are week in. And want to do it in the first place.
3. Why would scripture warn us about this??
Ephesians 6:11
Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
If satan is bound, we do not need to be given these warnings. why?
If satan is bound, we do not have to put on the whole armor of God, because he can;t touch us
If satan is bound, we do not have to worry about satan walking around like a roaring lion, he would be in chains, and would not be able to walk around. that is what the term BOUND means. To tie up, put in chains. etc.
2. James is correct. We can only be tempted when our own lust is wanting to do something. As scripture says, resist the devil and he will flee from you. He can only tempt you if he temps you with something you are week in. And want to do it in the first place.
3. Why would scripture warn us about this??
Ephesians 6:11
Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
If satan is bound, we do not need to be given these warnings. why?
If satan is bound, we do not have to put on the whole armor of God, because he can;t touch us
If satan is bound, we do not have to worry about satan walking around like a roaring lion, he would be in chains, and would not be able to walk around. that is what the term BOUND means. To tie up, put in chains. etc.
Notice how Jesus directs their attention away from Jerusalem, it starts there, but ends up with their and our job to be witnesses for Christ to the ends of the earth. Many times when Jesus corrected the disciples' errors, Jesus' answers where rarely straight forward and direct, but it's an answer that makes you ponder it's meaning and search for an answer that satisfies you. And maybe you won't find the answer till you part from your body. So our focus should not be only on Jerusalem, but the whole world (Jerusalem today is part of the whole world, so I want to make it clear that our witness is still needed there).
I'm at work, so I may add to this later.
I'm at work, so I may add to this later.
Where is satan bound? And where is he cast to? The only devils I see are men!
Galatians 5:14-16
14*For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
15*But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
16*This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Galatians 5:14-16
14*For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
15*But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
16*This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.