Revelation 3:10

[louis]

A materialistic state of euphoria? You mean like it is right now?

While I agree that much of the Western world (especially the U.S.) can be seen as a very materialistic nation; it's still not as in the days of Noah, or as in the days of Lot in Sodom, as scriptures indicate it will be.
Additionally, these materialistic days as in the days of Noah, and as in the days of Lot in Sodom, are going to be throughout the world, when the beast rises from the sea (aka the bottomless pit).

The wrath of God will affect anyone who happens to be on the earth during that seven year period. Even the great tribulation saints are affected. This is why the Lord warns believers multiple times to watch and be ready so that this day does not close on us like a t trap.

The Lords wrath upon the worshippers of the beast comes after the seven years; not before or during. It is at the conclusion of the beasts reign, at which point the wrath of God will commence upon the faithless (Daniel 7:26), at which point the Lord will commence to reign on the earth through His saints (Daniel 7:27). These are they who are gathered from the four winds when the beasts system begins to implode. Who do you think are going to inhabit the towns and villages without walls, bars or gates throughout Judea, when the faithless world comes to Judea for Armageddon (Ezekiel 38:11)?

Daniel 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

Ezekiel 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

 

[Ahwatukee]

The Lords wrath upon the worshippers of the beast comes after the seven years; not before or during. It is at the conclusion of the beasts reign, at which point the wrath of God will commence upon the faithless (Daniel 7:26), at which point the Lord will commence to reign on the earth through His saints (Daniel 7:27). These are they who are gathered from the four winds when the beasts system begins to implode. Who do you think are going to inhabit the towns and villages without walls, bars or gates throughout Judea, when the faithless world comes to Judea for Armageddon (Ezekiel 38:11)?

I would suggest that you do a study on "the day of the Lord" then, because his wrath is going be on the haughty, the prideful, the arrogant, and all of those who are living according to the sinful nature, as well as those who worship the beast, his image and receive his mark. Now that part of it is from the middle of the seven years to the end. But God's wrath is going to start at the beginning of the seven years, which will be initiated by the opening of the 1st seal, which is representing the antichrist.

As far as it being like the days of Noah, we are in them. For people are currently eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, (business as usual) as though the world is going to go on an on. But then at some point the church will be gathered, which will be the equivalent of Noah entering the ark, with God's destruction of the seals, trumpets and bowls that follow representing the flood.

You can believe whatever you want, but I am confident about the events and their timing and order and cannot be moved from that. So we agree to disagree.

The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will be in operation throughout the entire seven years and there is nothing that could convince me otherwise, as I've done and continue to do the studies.

 

[louis]

I would suggest that you do a study on "the day of the Lord" then, because his wrath is going be on the haughty, the prideful, the arrogant, and all of those who are living according to the sinful nature, as well as those who worship the beast, his image and receive his mark.

Ahwatukee, The proud, haughty, arrogant are among the effects from an excess love for material things, which are idols (Revelation 9:20-21).

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Ahwatukee, The proud, haughty, arrogant are among the effects from an excess love for material things, which are idols (Revelation 9:20-21).

Please! Being proud and haughty is not restricted to just the time period of the antichrist, because it has been going on for some time and is currently going on. If you want to believe that the wrath of God begins in the middle of the seven that is your choice, just don't try to convince me, because I know that God's wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowls will be in operation during the entire seven years.

Please don't both me with this any more.

 

[louis]

Please! Being proud and haughty is not restricted to just the time period of the antichrist, because it has been going on for some time and is currently going on. If you want to believe that the wrath of God begins in the middle of the seven that is your choice, just don't try to convince me, because I know that God's wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowls will be in operation during the entire seven years.

Please don't both me with this any more.

What a twister you are. I never stated the wrath of God begins in the middle of the seven year period of the Antichrist. I stated the wrath of God only commences following the seven years, when the blessing comes upon the faithful remnant survivors on day 1335. And I have multiple scriptures to back up my claims. You should re-read my post # 41.

 

[garee]

I would suggest that you do a study on "the day of the Lord" then, because his wrath is going be on the haughty, the prideful, the arrogant, and all of those who are living according to the sinful nature, as well as those who worship the beast, his image and receive his mark. Now that part of it is from the middle of the seven years to the end. But God's wrath is going to start at the beginning of the seven years, which will be initiated by the opening of the 1st seal, which is representing the antichrist.

As far as it being like the days of Noah, we are in them. For people are currently eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, (business as usual) as though the world is going to go on an on. But then at some point the church will be gathered, which will be the equivalent of Noah entering the ark, with God's destruction of the seals, trumpets and bowls that follow representing the flood.

You can believe whatever you want, but I am confident about the events and their timing and order and cannot be moved from that. So we agree to disagree.

The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will be in operation throughout the entire seven years and there is nothing that could convince me otherwise, as I've done and continue to do the studies.

The day of the Lord is one day, the last day.One twinkling of the eye

It is from that perspective that Christ signified the things written in the Revelation the last trump ,

The thousand is signified it represent a unknown

Literalist have destroyed it by refusing to look the the spiritual meaning hid in that parable (chapter 2) as well as the parable below..without parables Christ as the Holy Spirit of God spoke not.

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;Rev 1:12

 

[Ahwatukee]

What a twister you are. I never stated the wrath of God begins in the middle of the seven year period of the Antichrist. I stated the wrath of God only commences following the seven years, when the blessing comes upon the faithful remnant survivors on day 1335. And I have multiple scriptures to back up my claims. You should re-read my post # 41.

What a twister you are. I never stated the wrath of God begins in the middle of the seven year period of the Antichrist. I stated the wrath of God only commences following the seven years, when the blessing comes upon the faithful remnant survivors on day 1335. And I have multiple scriptures to back up my claims. You should re-read my post # 41.

My apologies if I misquoted you regarding when you said God's wrath begins. I do not purposely twist scripture, as I am zealous for the truth and accuracy of God's word.

That you said that the wrath of God begins after the seven years, is even a worse of a distortion of scripture, for God's wrath is exactly what the seven years is about. You need to go and do an in-depth study on the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. And if you say that you have, then you need to reread it because these are what God is going to used to carry out his wrath. They're even referred to as wrath and are mentioned as taking place during the seven years.

The antichrist's seven year agreement with Israel initiates that last seven year period in fulfillment of the seventy sets of seven years that were decreed upon Israel and Jerusalem (Dan.9:24-27) He is also represented as the rider on the white horse of the first seal. Therefore, since the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments are how God is going to carry out his wrath, the first seal/antichrist is the beginning of God's wrath, with the rest of the seals, trumpets and bowls taking place in chronological order throughout the entire seven years until Christ returns at the end to end the age.

Regarding this, even Jesus identified that from the middle of the seven years and the rest of that last 3 1/2 years of the seven year period, as being the great tribulation period, which will be the worst of God's wrath. So much so, that if it was allowed to go on any longer than 3 1/2 years, no one would be left alive on the earth.

Regarding the 1290 and 1335 days, these being 30 and 75 days beyond the 1260 day mark, where during those days will most likely be taking place the judgment of the sheep and the goats, the settling of disputes for the righteous people from different nations who are allowed to enter into the millennial kingdom, as well as other pre-millennial business.

You cannot escape the fact that the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, are all referred to as God's wrath (Rev.6:7, 11:18, 15:1). Therefore, I don't know who you can claim that God's wrath takes place after the seven years, when the seals, trumpets and bowls are referred to as being God's wrath and also refers to them taking place during that seven years period.

 

[louis]

My apologies if I misquoted you regarding when you said God's wrath begins. I do not purposely twist scripture, as I am zealous for the truth and accuracy of God's word.

That you said that the wrath of God begins after the seven years, is even a worse of a distortion of scripture, for God's wrath is exactly what the seven years is about. You need to go and do an in-depth study on the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. And if you say that you have, then you need to reread it because these are what God is going to used to carry out his wrath. They're even referred to as wrath and are mentioned as taking place during the seven years.

The antichrist's seven year agreement with Israel initiates that last seven year period in fulfillment of the seventy sets of seven years that were decreed upon Israel and Jerusalem (Dan.9:24-27) He is also represented as the rider on the white horse of the first seal. Therefore, since the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments are how God is going to carry out his wrath, the first seal/antichrist is the beginning of God's wrath, with the rest of the seals, trumpets and bowls taking place in chronological order throughout the entire seven years until Christ returns at the end to end the age.

Regarding this, even Jesus identified that from the middle of the seven years and the rest of that last 3 1/2 years of the seven year period, as being the great tribulation period, which will be the worst of God's wrath. So much so, that if it was allowed to go on any longer than 3 1/2 years, no one would be left alive on the earth.

Regarding the 1290 and 1335 days, these being 30 and 75 days beyond the 1260 day mark, where during those days will most likely be taking place the judgment of the sheep and the goats, the settling of disputes for the righteous people from different nations who are allowed to enter into the millennial kingdom, as well as other pre-millennial business.

You cannot escape the fact that the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, are all referred to as God's wrath (Rev.6:7, 11:18, 15:1). Therefore, I don't know who you can claim that God's wrath takes place after the seven years, when the seals, trumpets and bowls are referred to as being God's wrath and also refers to them taking place during that seven years period.

After the woman brings forth a man child who is caught up to God in heaven (Revelation 12:5), after her spending 1,260 days in the wilderness (Revelation 12:6), the devil then goes off to war with the remnant offspring from the woman (Revelation 12:17). The devil goes off to wage war with the remnant offspring by giving the beast with ten horns and seven heads his power causing the beast to rise from the sea, which then has the further effect of having the whole world worshipping the beast as a result (Revelation 13:1-4). It is during these last 3.5 times (shortened years) in which the beasts system is at spiritual war with the saints (Daniel 7:25 & Revelation 13:5).
Now let's see if you can put 1+1 together here.
How is the wrath of God falling upon the beasts realm during the latter half of the seven years, if (1) the people of the world are in a state of Euphoria with the beasts system, and (2), the mouth of the beast is enacting spirutual warfare upon the faithful; indicating the beasts system is working great in order to contend/war spiritually against the faithful?